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periopocket said:
That means that OP is about to take the American DAT, as he claims that he will write in a week!
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I thought he said he already had a 20 AA, 21 TS, and 20 PAT.

In that case good luck to OP.
 
So it seems everyone thinks my chances are low to zero. This was a surprise, i thought US schools just wanted money and take anyone
 
under taker said:
So it seems everyone thinks my chances are low to zero. This was a surprise, i thought US schools just wanted money and take anyone
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don't know where you got that notion from but even for being a canadian....you're wayyyy misinformed
 
this is the second (or third) time a canadian student has posted something like this on sdn ("i thought american schools just took anyone").

no! we all had to work hard, really hard. Maybe its not as difficult as in Canada but its kind of insulting to have that mentality
 
bkpredent said:
this is the second (or third) time a canadian student has posted something like this on sdn ("i thought american schools just took anyone").

no! we all had to work hard, really hard. Maybe its not as difficult as in Canada but its kind of insulting to have that mentality
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it's not insulting at all, there are ignorant and misinformed people out there, if you get insulted by them, then... that's your problem 😎, I got sunglasses, nothing insults me! infact it reflects insults!
 
under taker said:
So it seems everyone thinks my chances are low to zero. This was a surprise, i thought US schools just wanted money and take anyone
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If you have a 3.50 GPA in Canada, you'll have zero chance of getting into a dental school. If you have a 3.50 GPA in the states, you have like a 50/50 chance.

So it's easier to get into an American dental school for sure. Some schools like USC, only have 3.20 average GPAs. The standards are lower, but not to a point where an international student with a 2.67 GPA can in.
 
under taker said:
So it seems everyone thinks my chances are low to zero. This was a surprise, i thought US schools just wanted money and take anyone
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Dental schools are businesses, their main objective is revenue. Now a sub 3.0 applicant who may get kicked out after 1 or 2 years costing the school 200k doesn't seem like a sound investment does it? Also a 2.67 in their matriculating class statistics don't do much for the school.
 
periopocket said:
No one here has the right to tell you what to do with your money. Everyone has just offered you facts and statistics to better help your decision. Albino Polar Bear has offered you more good advice, and I would take it, as he has already been a successful applicant. Until you have at least a 3.0 gpa, you remain highly uncompetitive.
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just because he is a successful applicant, it doesn't mean that he is right . The OP should only seek advice from the dental schools that he wishes to apply to.
 
shayanH said:
just because he is a successful applicant, it doesn't mean that he is right . The OP should only seek advice from the dental schools that he wishes to apply to.
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Dude, that's mean. You want the OP to call up every school for them to say he has a chance, waste his time and money, giving him hope, and then break his heart slowly?
 
OP, I guess if you deeply believe you have a chance and that dental schools just want your money and you don't agree with what others are advising on this forum, then you can just pay the 2000 dollars and apply and see for yourself. Done once and for all.
 
I mean no disrespect but US schools have a rep here in canada, that they are a joke to get into (dental and med)....like every1 here says "if u wanna go to med/dental school and dont mind living in the states...ull be a doc/dentist"...it seems a 2.7 is good enuf by the way they talk but u guys are saying otherwise,
 
I mean no disrespect but US schools have a rep here in canada, that they are a joke to get into (dental and med)....like every1 here says "if u wanna go to med/dental school and dont mind living in the states...ull be a doc/dentist"...it seems a 2.7 is good enuf by the way they talk but u guys are saying otherwise,
 
I emailed BU, and they responded like this:

"....with your current credentials it would be recommended to consider doing a Master’s degree in the biomedical sciences to become more competitive. We consider a 3.3 overall and science GPA to be competitive. Boston University is a private institution so we do not have a quota for the number of in state vs. out of state students we can accept and we do have a larger class size than some institutions. This does not mean we are “easier” to get into as we have a large application pool of over 4,000, making it as competitive as other schools to gain admissions."

So a 3.3 is competitive so a 3.0 is likely...thats not hard tbh it is an easy school then
 
saying a 3.3 is competitive doesn't mean a 3.0 means your chance is "likely". when something is described as competitive it doesn't mean you have a really good shot or even a good shot. it means you have a chance a.k.a. you will actually be seriously considered and not just automatically rejected.
 
it seems if a 3.3 is considered competitive a 3.0 isnt that bad as everyone made it seem. Am i wrong? Like a 3.0, 20 DAT for a canadian is good enuf, which is easy to make (gpa wise)
 
Saying a 3.3 is competitive means that if you have less than a 3.3, you would be considered uncompetitive.

So a 3.0 would be uncompetitive. A 2.67 would also be uncompetitive.

I don't know how you came up with the conclusion that 3.0 is still competitive when they clearly told you that 3.30 would be.
 
AlbinoPolarBear said:
Saying a 3.3 is competitive means that if you have less than a 3.3, you would be considered uncompetitive.

So a 3.0 would be uncompetitive. A 2.67 would also be uncompetitive.

I don't know how you came up with the conclusion that 3.0 is still competitive when they clearly told you that 3.30 would be.
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op is rounding his 2.63 up to a 3
 
lol im not rounding anything up, but i have 1 year of undergrad remaining and i might be able to bring it up to a 3.0, and im not saying its comeptitive im just saying its not bad, like with a 3,9 my GPA wont end up in the "rejection" pile, solely because of a 3.0gpa.
 
lol im not rounding anything up, but i have 1 year of undergrad remaining and i might be able to bring it up to a 3.0, and im not saying its comeptitive im just saying its not bad, like with a 3,9 my GPA wont end up in the "rejection" pile, solely because of a 3.0gpa.
 
lol is everyone ignoring him now?
 
under taker said:
Anyone agree?
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It seems to me that everyone has already told you that your grades as-is are not competitive (really not even in the ball-park). If you don't believe your peers then apply. It is your right to do so and your money to spend.

Edit: Incidentally, I am a Canadian. 6 years ago I applied to Boston University (among others) with a 3.5 GPA and was rejected. I then did a M.Sc. and got in to a Canadian School and have since graduated. I can tell you that the competition in the US has not decreased in the last 6 years.
 
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Are you saying a 3.5 is not enough! Omg really? Did u lack a high dat score? references? OR just ur gpa was "too low"?
My god, my gpa is a 2.9 and im also canadian and OP is a 2.65 canadian....WE HAVE NO CHANCE?
 
I was told that my D- average from Everest College would guarantee acceptance to dental school!!!
 
...apply to many schools my friend.
 
Look man, I have a friend who will be attending Midwestern this coming fall, and she's an international student from South Korea. She applied to 15 different schools and got interviews for 9 of them, and only 2 acceptances. Her overall GPA was like 3.96, and her DAT's for AA and PAT were 24 and 21, respectively. Her ec's were phenomenal.

Unless your an URM who was born an orphan, with a missing leg, taking care of a child on your own, going to work to pay for college while going to college at the same time, would I be comfortable with those stats.

But anyways it's your right to apply, good luck👍
 
Smurf12 said:
Look man, I have a friend who will be attending Midwestern this coming fall, and she's an international student from South Korea. She applied to 15 different schools and got interviews for 9 of them, and only 2 acceptances. Her overall GPA was like 3.96, and her DAT's for AA and PAT were 24 and 21, respectively. Her ec's were phenomenal.

Unless your an URM who was born an orphan, with a missing leg, taking care of a child on your own, going to work to pay for college while going to college at the same time, would I be comfortable with those stats.

But anyways it's your right to apply, good luck👍
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Lol.
 
Well, its impossible for OP to become a born orphan if he isnt already..so if i may give some more reasonable advice....

1) have your parents donate $4 million to the school of your choice
2) hope to win the lottery then donate $4 million to the school of your choice
3) convince the son of the dental school Dean/director to fall in love with you and have him say "yes" to your marriage proposal, then con your father-in-law to give you a seat in the next incoming class
4) have President Obama write you a letter of recommendation and a personal phone call to the dental school Dean on your behalf
5) paint yourself darker and pretend that you're within a minority applicant status (African Americans and Hispanics only)
 
under taker said:
I mean no disrespect but US schools have a rep here in canada, that they are a joke to get into (dental and med)....like every1 here says "if u wanna go to med/dental school and dont mind living in the states...ull be a doc/dentist"...it seems a 2.7 is good enuf by the way they talk but u guys are saying otherwise,
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Canadians need to stay in Canada 👍👍👍

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hahahahaha i wanna be a dentist and my GPA is automatically cutting me out from getting into dental school here in canada so my next option is the US. Im still waititng for interview or rejection!! so nervous but as everyones been saying im expecting a rejection.
 
Azrael said:
I'm positive it was my GPA, everything in my app seems to be in check. About us international students, there isn't really much advice but to apply broadly and to the big private schools. The major change in my app for this cycle is my GPA.
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Did you write the Canadian DAT or American DAT?
 
i have a question....if i get lucky and get an interview am i at the same level as someone with a 4.0 gpa? or is my gpa still a factor>???
 
under taker said:
Anyone agree?
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why do you and drbatman make canadians seem so damn desperate?

its people like you who get into US dental school that gives the rest of us Canadians bad rep of "oh states school is so easy to get into, a rock can do it"

State school is easier to get into, but its still not easy especially for internationals.

Furthermore, you have to look at whether you can even finance your american dental education.

NYU is almost 400k in total if you factor in the crazy living costs. How do you expect to get that kind of money. No canadian bank will loan out more than 250k at prime (3%) split between 4 yrs. Do you have an extra 150k lying around? Did you look at what 3% interest will do to your debt?

I personally think you have already flushed your dreams away. A sub 3 gpa means you're screwed because you just can't afford it financially to pay for dent school and undergrad and post bac/masters.



Getting accepted is the easy part. Financing school is the hard part.

Good luck
 
hmmmmm said:
why do you and drbatman make canadians seem so damn desperate?

its people like you who get into US dental school that gives the rest of us Canadians bad rep of "oh states school is so easy to get into, a rock can do it"

State school is easier to get into, but its still not easy especially for internationals.

Furthermore, you have to look at whether you can even finance your american dental education.

NYU is almost 400k in total if you factor in the crazy living costs. How do you expect to get that kind of money. No canadian bank will loan out more than 250k at prime (3%) split between 4 yrs. Do you have an extra 150k lying around? Did you look at what 3% interest will do to your debt?

I personally think you have already flushed your dreams away. A sub 3 gpa means you're screwed because you just can't afford it financially to pay for dent school and undergrad and post bac/masters.



Getting accepted is the easy part. Financing school is the hard part.

Good luck
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I must agree. The amount of money for education is crazy in the U.S. I am already worried about paying back the debt.
 
flipflopreverse said:
I must agree. The amount of money for education is crazy in the U.S. I am already worried about paying back the debt.
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Whatever you do, don't go to a private American school and then work in Toronto. You'll barely be able to pay your monthly loan payment after taxes.
 
Ostracized said:
Whatever you do, don't go to a private American school and then work in Toronto. You'll barely be able to pay your monthly loan payment after taxes.
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Thanks for your advice. I feel like I hijacked the forum.
 
under taker said:
i have a question....if i get lucky and get an interview am i at the same level as someone with a 4.0 gpa? or is my gpa still a factor>???
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how lucky are we talking about? How are your extracurricular activities? Did you already apply?
 
hey OP
you are making us Canadians look bad...
how in the world do you think that a 2.67 can get you into dental school in states?

seriously, either you are a bit delusional or have no realistic view of the profession you want to get into...
US dental schools are difficult to get into, if you think 2.67 can get you in, then almost half of the students in the US would be considered competitive for dental school...
seriously...omg
 
saying it's easy to get accepted, doesnt mean the quality of teaching is any less than canadian schools....I just wanted to know what are my chances with a low GPA, but good dat, ECs and work exp, shadowing,etc...how is that demeaning?
 
under taker said:
saying it's easy to get accepted, doesnt mean the quality of teaching is any less than canadian schools....I just wanted to know what are my chances with a low GPA, but good dat, ECs and work exp, shadowing,etc...how is that demeaning?
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plz stop asking questions...
i don't wanna keep seeing this post on top of the forum list...and have others see it too LOL
 
what is wrong with you? do you own this forum? if no one wants to respond then let it be and it wont be on the top, but people are sharing their opinions and im gratfeul for that. If u dont like to read this then by all means run along......
 
under taker said:
what is wrong with you? do you own this forum? if no one wants to respond then let it be and it wont be on the top, but people are sharing their opinions and im gratfeul for that. If u dont like to read this then by all means run along......
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Tell you the truth with a 2.67 you have I really don't think a high DAT (which is really difficult for people with 3.8+ gpa let alone for people with lower GPA) and ECs will help at all.
It's just mathematically improbable.
For a high American DAT Score you need to be good in Biology, Organic Chemistry, General Chemistry, Ready Comprehension, PAT, and Math. If you were that great, your GPA would have been higher, no offence. Getting a high DAT score is not easy.
Having said that, even a high DAT score never completely compensates for a low GPA.
I mean you can try and potentially waste your money, it's your decision. If you get in, come back here and tell me. I'll be shocked but I'll cheer for you.
 
Money isnt an issue, for all those who were talking about it, my dad is a dentist for 27 years now so he got a lot of money.
 
This thread is so funny 🙂👍
 
wow......i cant believe this thread survived 98 posts ....what are we all doing on our spare time lol.......let's see if it can make 100 posts!
 
Lol glad i started such a stir...Well let me continue by asking, everyones telling me to do a masters, if i could bring my GPA up to a 3.00 assuming i get a 3.7 GPA in my last (4th year classes) and then a year of post bac (high gpa as well) will that be good enuf? or do i still need a msasters ?
 
Can you even get in graduate school with a 2.67 gpa in Canada, I go to UofT and even graduate schools are highly competitive with above 3.5 gpa at least ...
 
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