MD much more professional than DO

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So my mother who has a history of cancer recently went to a nearby clinic to ask for another opinion on her prognosis. She was definitely worried about the possibility of having any cancer resurface in the same or different organ. Driving down the street she decided to go to a neighborhood clinic purely because it was close to home. Arriving at the clinic, which was overly crowded, she was surprised to see that it was completely staffed by D.O’s and not by MDs. After showing the doctor her labs, history, and reports the DO suspected the worst and soon cast much doubt on her future. She explained that previous MDs had stated otherwise but he reiterated his claim and stated that he was very short on time and quickly scooted her out to quickly take in the next patient.

My mom came home very depressed and I was worried for her health. Within a week, I urged her to see a medical doctor and to get a full blood test and 2nd opinion from a MD specialist. She was still very worried but was determined not to let one professional’s opinion destroy any hope for a future. She talked to a medical oncologist who directed her to have a colonoscopy as well as other lab tests to examine the chance of metastasis or recurrence of any cancer. Within weeks, all our questions were answered in a formal letter and printed, labeled labs sent from the MD specialist who wrote strongly of how my mother, at her current state, was cancer free. He added his own advice that if she wished to remain this way she should continually receive checkups and tests to forecast any changes that her body might make.

TO make a long story short, in my pursuit of a career in healthcare, in my experience the breadth of knowledge, expertise, and sincerity that the MD gave to my mother firmly calmed her fears about her life and future. I wish I could say the same about the DO. I am truly disappointed in the DO’s lackluster, questionable opinion. Whether it be a lack of training, time allowed for each patient, or simply not enough education upon the subject, the experience truly left a bad impression upon my goals. As a result of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the MD just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical DO.

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CharlieVN said:
As a result of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the MD just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical DO.

I agree but for a variety of other reasons. I overheard a few doctors (MDs) in the hospital one afternoon. One guy said to the other..."We just hired a few DOs, but they are actually decent." That in itself shows quite a discrepancy and the existence of a heirarchy whether it is unfortunate or not.
 
CharlieVN said:
Whether it be a lack of training, time allowed for each patient, or simply not enough education upon the subject, the experience truly left a bad impression upon my goals. As a result of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the MD just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical DO.
You're talking about two doctors... a specialist and a generalist. Your average oncologist better have more to offer than your typical family practioner when it comes to assessing cancer.

If the doctors were both MDs and the generalist was a racial minority would you make the same generalization about them too?
 
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Thanks for the story, but this is just one example. This doesn't indicate that DOs are worse than MDs. Remeber that there will always be bad doctors whether it be DOs or MDs.
 
CharlieVN said:
So my mother who has a history of cancer recently went to a nearby clinic to ask for another opinion on her prognosis. She was definitely worried about the possibility of having any cancer resurface in the same or different organ. Driving down the street she decided to go to a neighborhood clinic purely because it was close to home. Arriving at the clinic, which was overly crowded, she was surprised to see that it was completely staffed by D.O’s and not by MDs. After showing the doctor her labs, history, and reports the DO suspected the worst and soon cast much doubt on her future. She explained that previous MDs had stated otherwise but he reiterated his claim and stated that he was very short on time and quickly scooted her out to quickly take in the next patient.

My mom came home very depressed and I was worried for her health. Within a week, I urged her to see a medical doctor and to get a full blood test and 2nd opinion from a MD specialist. She was still very worried but was determined not to let one professional’s opinion destroy any hope for a future. She talked to a medical oncologist who directed her to have a colonoscopy as well as other lab tests to examine the chance of metastasis or recurrence of any cancer. Within weeks, all our questions were answered in a formal letter and printed, labeled labs sent from the MD specialist who wrote strongly of how my mother, at her current state, was cancer free. He added his own advice that if she wished to remain this way she should continually receive checkups and tests to forecast any changes that her body might make.

TO make a long story short, in my pursuit of a career in healthcare, in my experience the breadth of knowledge, expertise, and sincerity that the MD gave to my mother firmly calmed her fears about her life and future. I wish I could say the same about the DO. I am truly disappointed in the DO’s lackluster, questionable opinion. Whether it be a lack of training, time allowed for each patient, or simply not enough education upon the subject, the experience truly left a bad impression upon my goals. As a result of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the MD just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical DO.


I wonder who let you in medical school you dumb prick
 
Buster Douglas said:
If the doctors were both MDs and the generalist was a racial minority would you make the same generalization about them too?

Yes.
 
I'm glad your mother is cancer-free, but I think your statement is pretty unfounded. It's a large claim based on only one item of personal evidence. The truth is, the average DO has more to offer than its allopathic counterpart. Why? It doesn't necessarily have to be the difference in philosophy, but rather the fact that osteopathic physicians are trained in a discipline that orthopedic specialists would normally engage in (treatment of musculoskeletal disorders).

OK, aside from my touting of the osteopathic profession, you are making a generalization about one doctor whom your mother saw. Maybe if this was consistent between MD's and DO's, you could have some sort of adequate conclusion. You have to remember though, there are bad seeds in every profession. Statistically, given the fact that MD's outnumber DO's nationally by 94%, there are probably many more allopathic malpractice cases (ie. more bad seeds).

Referring to some of the other comments you made, I will say it again, DO's have an extra 200 hrs of additional training, osteopathic anatomy programs tend to be extremely solid, the education is considered the legal equivalent, and lack of time to see patients is not about MD's or DO's - it's about HMO's, PPO's, and managed care.

P.S. Your mother saw a general practitioner and a specialist. hah. You've got to be kidding me to be able to make this comparison.
 
This guy's a troll. Like I posted in the allopathic section, there are good DOs/MDs and bad DOs/MDs.
 
TheProwler said:
This isn't trolling, this is a parody. :rolleyes:

:cool: Well said Prowler, Well said. (Look at my last sentence and that guy's last sentence)
 
Assembler said:
I'm glad your mother is cancer-free, but I think your statement is pretty unfounded. It's a large claim based on only one item of personal evidence. The truth is, the average DO has more to offer than its allopathic counterpart. Why? It doesn't necessarily have to be the difference in philosophy, but rather the fact that osteopathic physicians are trained in a discipline that orthopedic specialists would normally engage in (treatment of musculoskeletal disorders).

The DO may -- may -- have more to offer someone who needs physical therapy-type intervention. For the vast majority of general medical outpatient cases, that's not going to be the case. For specialist cases outside of ortho and physiatry, that's hardly ever going to be the case. So in general, no, the DO does not offer more to the average patient.

Assembler said:
OK, aside from my touting of the osteopathic profession, you are making a generalization about one doctor whom your mother saw. Maybe if this was consistent between MD's and DO's, you could have some sort of adequate conclusion. You have to remember though, there are bad seeds in every profession. Statistically, given the fact that MD's outnumber DO's nationally by 94%, there are probably many more allopathic malpractice cases (ie. more bad seeds).

:laugh: Of course there are more malpractice cases against MD's. Most doctors are MD's. That doesn't mean that allopathic medicine produces more "bad seeds" per physician trained, though.

Assembler said:
Referring to some of the other comments you made, I will say it again, DO's have an extra 200 hrs of additional training, osteopathic anatomy programs tend to be extremely solid, the education is considered the legal equivalent, and lack of time to see patients is not about MD's or DO's - it's about HMO's, PPO's, and managed care.

That's lovely that DO's have the training they have. I think that MD's and DO's are absolutely equivalents of each other, and these threads that are devoted to proving that one group is better than the other are bunk. But this comes from both sides, and DO's need to realize that they are not better than MD's, if they want the same respect from their allopathic counterparts.
 
Putting all of this aside, just ask yourself, why do most people apply to DO schools? That will settle the debate.
 
the OP must be drinking some of this:

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Putting all of this aside, just ask yourself, why do most people apply to DO schools? That will settle the debate
Contrary to what you may believe, the majority of us want to be here.

And guys, the OP seems to have posted that for kicks. He posted a similar thread in another forum.

Others, like VPDcurt, seem to be quite serious.
 
charlie, thats pretty funny. the other post in pre-allo was pretty bad, but you gotta be careful, there's a lot of sensitive people up in here. i'm sure you got what you were looking for, you ruffled some feathers. now lets cut out the BS and leave this in jest.

the truth is, I'm in full support of the notion that my bartender just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical health professional. and i say this despite having some terrible bartenders in the past.
 
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