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here it is, folks.. you know you wanted it! Names removed and re-shuffled into a readable order according to specialty.
DrMikeyLu said:
Holy cow.
Anes at UF
FP at Mayo
Gen Surg at Vanderbilt
IM at Johns Hopkins, Yale, and UCSF
That answers the question as to whether DO's ever land spots in hospitals affiliated with Big Name schools...
Holy cow.
Anes at UF
FP at Mayo
Gen Surg at Vanderbilt
IM at Johns Hopkins, Yale, and UCSF
That answers the question as to whether DO's ever land spots in hospitals affiliated with Big Name schools...
impressive, Rad onc at USC
Unfortunately, these matched may look impressive at first but the reality is that they really aren't that impressive at all. To think otherwise is extremely short-sighted. Why? Family med is pretty easy to match into, no matter where you go. Anes at UF is pretty good, but lots of DO's match in gas every year. The general surg match is a prelim spot, which is probably the worst fate possible for an intern. The IM matches at Hopkins and UCSF aren't at the main branch but are rather at smaller community based programs that are only affiliated with these programs, these spots aren't that hard to get.
Thank you.
That being said, I'm sure that if you bust your butt etc, you'll have no problem placing into a solid allopathic residency program as a DO graduate.
In an ideal world this would be true, I busted my hump and it worked for me. Unfortunately, I know a few people from my med school class who went unmatched in allopathic programs - optho, PM&R, and general surgery to be exact. Tales of unmatch also abound on SDN. Work hard and be realistic.
A Transitional Internship is a M.D. Internship where you basically rotate through all the major disciplines like you are a 3rd year med student....Surgery, Medicine, Peds, Ob/Gyn, ICU, ER, and you have an elective or two...and a month vacation. Depends on the program as to how many months/weeks you are on each service. This is basically a year of clinical training that is very broad.
The Transitional Internship is analagous to the Traditional Rotating Internship which is a D.O. Internship. Same basic rotations/components just different accreditations/program names.
A Preliminary year is a more focused internship in either Medicine or Surgery. If you do a Prelim Medicine Internship, you will get more months on the Medicine service and probably more ICU, etc. You will likely not rotate through Peds or Ob/Gyn, unless you do it as an elective. Basically its just heavily weighted towards Internal Medicine.
A Preliminary year in Surgery is one year where most of your rotations are Surgery, and also, there is likely less Pediatrics and Ob/Gyn. You do more months of Surgery, and maybe only 1 or 2 of Medicine.
You can do either a transitional year internship or a preliminary year internship before going into those residencies that require a clinical year before starting: Radiology, Anesthesiology, Dermatology, Ophthomology, Emergency Medicine(some programs), Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, etc. These are typically known as "Advanced Positions" because you apply to them in advance and start after an internship.
There are some advanced residency programs that have linked internships....this is VERY COMMON with DO residencies, and less common with MD residencies but there are some out there. If you are going to do an entire 3 year residency in Internal Medicine though, the internship is the first year of the residency, and this would be listed as "Categorical" Internal Medicine.
If you are going to want a license in Michigan, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, or Florida, then you need to have completed a DO Internship(Traditional Rotating Internship) or gotten your Transitional or Prelimin MD internship approved by the AOA. Getting your MD internship approved by the AOA can be difficult and I would suggest that if you are going to do your residency in one of those 5 states, just do the DO internship and save the headaches.
This list now appears on the PCOM Website.
Anesthesiology
Einstein/Montefiore Medical Center
LECOM/Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh
TempleUniversityHospital
ThomasJeffersonUniversity
UMDNJ/Robert Wood Johnson
University of Pittsburgh
University of MarylandMedicalCenter
Dermatology Research Fellowship
University of Pennsylvania
EMED/IMED
UMDNJ/Kennedy-Memorial Hospital
Emergency Medicine
DarnallArmyCommunityHospital
IndianaUniversity
JohnsHopkinsUniversity
MaricopaMedicalCenter
Mount Clemens GeneralHospital
NewarkBethIsraelMedicalCenter
PCOM/Albert Einstein Medical Center
PCOM/Geisinger Health System
PCOM/Lehigh Valley
PCOM/St. Luke's Hospital
St. James Hospital & Health Center
UMDNJ/Kennedy-Memorial Hospital
YorkHospital
Family Medicine
BrynMawrHospital
ChinoValleyMedicalCenter
Crozer-ChesterMedicalCenter
Dartmouth-HitchcockMedicalCenter
DavidGrantMedicalCenter
Duke/Southern Regional Area
EhrlingBergquistHospital
Jacksonville Naval Hospital
KCOM/John Lincoln Health Network
LECOM/Robert Packer Hospital
LECOM/UPMC-St. Margaret Hospital
LECOM/Washington Hospital
Naval Hospital
PCOM/Abington Memorial Hospital
PCOM/Altoona Regional Health System
PCOM/Christiana Care Health System
PCOM/Frankford Hospital
PCOM/Heart of Lancaster
PCOM/Lehigh Valley
PCOM/Mercy Suburban Hospital
PCOM/Reading Hospital
PCOM/St. Francis Hospital
PCOM/St. Luke's Hospital
PCOM/The Medical Center of Beaver
PCOM/Williamsport Hospital & Medical Center
RiversideRegionalMedicalCenter
Scott AFB/St. Louis University Family Practice
UMDNJ/Kennedy-Memorial Hospital
UNTHSCTCOM/Methodist Charlton Hospital
WomackArmyMedicalCenter
General Surgery
MercyCatholicMedicalCenter
NCC-WalterReedArmyMedicalCenter
PCOM Consortium
PCOM/Pinnacle Health
St. James Hospital & Health Center
UMDNJ/Kennedy-Memorial Hospital
University of Massachusetts
UPMC Horizon
WilfordHallMedicalCenter & University of Texas
WilliamBeaumontArmyMedicalCenter
IMED/Neuro
HenryFordHospital
Internal Medicine
CarrawayMethodistMedicalCenter
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Crozer-Keystone/Delaware County Memorial Hospital
Drexel University/Hahnemann Hospital
EisenhowerArmyMedicalCenter
LECOM/Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh
LenoxHillHospital
MercyCatholicMedicalCenter
MosesConeMemorialHospital
NavyMedicalCenter
NCC-WalterReedArmyMedicalCenter
NYCOM/Union Hospital
PCOM Consortium
PCOM/Albert Einstein Medical Center
PCOM/Christiana Care Health System
PCOM/Easton Hospital
PCOM/Geisinger Health System
PCOM/Lankenau Hospital
PCOM/Lehigh Valley
PCOM/Pinnacle Health
PCOM/Reading Hospital
PCOM/St. Luke's Hospital
RogerWilliamsMedicalCenter
Saint Barnabas Medical Center
SAUSHEC-BrookeArmyMedicalCenter
Shands Hospital/University of Florida
St Luke's-RooseveltHospitalCenter
St. Joseph's Hospital
Tripler ArmyMedicalCenter
UMDNJ-KennedyMemorialHospital
University of Connecticut
University of SouthAlabama
WinthropUniversity
Neurology
MedicalCollege of Virginia
UMDNJ
OB/Gyn
InghamRegionalMedicalCenter
LancasterGeneralHospital
LECOM/Western Pennsylvania Hospital
MercySuburbanHospital
PCOM/Geisinger Health System
PCOM/Lehigh Valley
PCOM/St. Luke's Hospital
Ophthalmology
MedicalCollege of Virginia
OUCOM/Doctors Hospital
TulsaRegionalMedicalCenter
University of Pittsburgh
Orthopedic Surgery
InghamRegionalMedicalCenter
MemorialHospital
National Naval MedicalCenter
PCOM Consortium
PCOM/Graduate Hospital
Pediatrics
CooperUniversityHospital
Crozer-ChesterMedicalCenter
GeorgetownUniversityHospital
Henry Ford Children's Hospital
Naval MedicalCenter
NYCOM/Good Samaritan Hospital
NYCOM/Maimonides Hospital
PCOM/Albert Einstein Medical Center
PCOM/Christiana Care Health System
PCOM/Geisinger Health System
Thomas Jefferson University/Dupont Children's Hospital
Tripler ArmyMedicalCenter
UMDNJ/Children's Hospital
UMDNJ/Robert Wood Johnson
VirginiaCommonwealth Health System
Plastic Surgery
PCOM Consortium
PM&R
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
SUNYHealthSciencesCenter
TempleUniversityHospital
Psychiatry
Long Island Jewish MedicalCenter
PCOM/Albert Einstein Medical Center
St. Vincent's Hospital/New YorkMedicalCollege
TempleUniversityHospital
ThomasJeffersonUniversity
Radiology
BrookeArmyMedicalCenter
WalterReedArmyMedicalCenter
Traditional Rotating/Internship Year
Crozer-ChesterMedicalCenter
Crozer-Keystone/Delaware County Memorial Hospital
LECOM/UPMC-St. Margaret Hospital
LECOM/Western Pennsylvania Hospital
MemorialHospital
MercyCatholicMedicalCenter
MercySuburbanHospital
National Naval MedicalCenter
NYCOM/Long Beach Medical Center
OUCOM/Doctors Hospital
PCOM Consortium
PCOM/Christiana Care Health System
PCOM/Frankford Hospital
PCOM/Geisinger Health System
PCOM/Graduate Hospital
PCOM/Heart of Lancaster
PCOM/Lankenau Hospital
PCOM/Lehigh Valley
PCOM/Pinnacle Health
PCOM/St. Luke's Hospital
PCOM/The Medical Center of Beaver
UHHSRichmondHeights
UMDNJ/Kennedy-Memorial Hospital
UNECOM/University of Connecticut
ValleyHospitalMedicalCenter
Urology
NCC-WalterReedArmyMedicalCenter
Vince,
I'm aiming on PCOM. We all know they have an amazing Emergency Medicine residency program with Albert Einstein. My question is this;
I'd like to be board certified as a family practicioner and do my emergency medicine residency... how can I best have my cake and digest it properly?
Are we to assume that a 3 year commitment to Family Practice, then a 4 year to emergency medicine is in order, or can 1 internship suffice for both residencies? Are any dual residency programs in regard to these fields on the horizon for OSTEOPATHS... seems logical that there would be.
Who can we petition to offer such a program for osteopath students in the future?
Thanks much,
lovepark
Vince,
I'm aiming on PCOM. We all know they have an amazing Emergency Medicine residency program with Albert Einstein. My question is this;
I'd like to be board certified as a family practicioner and do my emergency medicine residency... how can I best have my cake and digest it properly?
Are we to assume that a 3 year commitment to Family Practice, then a 4 year to emergency medicine is in order, or can 1 internship suffice for both residencies? Are any dual residency programs in regard to these fields on the horizon for OSTEOPATHS... seems logical that there would be.
Who can we petition to offer such a program for osteopath students in the future?
Thanks much,
lovepark
Keep in mind that while that does list where PCOM grads went last year, it doesn't list how many where at each place (ie 5 went to Jefferson for Anesthesiology).Can you post the link where you found this?
Cheers, mate. Very helpful.
lovepark
PCOMs match has always been impressive, but I especially like the EM match at Hopkins.. well done
Can you post the link where you found this?
Cheers, mate. Very helpful.
lovepark
Is there any way of finding out what the "real residency" is for graduates listed under Traditional Rotating. For instance, at NSUCOM there are 43 people going into Trad. Rotating. However, that is most likely to fulfill the 1 yr requirement for practicing Osteopathic Medicine in the 5 States.
Thanks!
Couple years ago, a PCOM grad became the first DO to get into UNC for EM ... home of the famous Dr. Tintinalli. I believe he's a PGY-3 now. I also believe there is someone from KCOM there now as a PGY-1
A PCOM grad is also one of the chief residents in Anesthesiology at Beth Israel Deaconess right now
ran across these wise words from an elder -
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3415328&postcount=6
While this is true, it's also not a way to excuse seeing a less than stellar list from a school.
what exactly does "less than stellar" mean?
It's not that convoluted. If some school has a mediocre match list, then saying the match list doesn't matter sounds like an excuse.
what I don't get is the definition of a mediocre match list.. do you have an example of a mediocre match list? and an example of a much better match list?
While this is true, it's also not a way to excuse seeing a less than stellar list from a school.
ladies...drop it....theres just no way to know unless you polled every student for what they really wanted to match in (and where) and knew they weren't lying....not happening...
True enough!
Though I just might add that if a list has a lot of students not matching, or matching for only an internship year, I would think THAT would be sort of worrisome for anybody. It doesn't seem like anyone would want to have to go through the match 2 years in a row.
..unless you want to practice in one of the 5 states that require it..
..unless you want to practice in one of the 5 states that require it..
Right - as if everyone who matches in a 1 year program can be assumed to want to do that.
No, but if you are looking at a matchlist for a school in one of those 5 states, you have to assume a lot of its students want to stay and practice in that state. Also, don't most of the students that match into AOA residencies have to do an internship year initially anyway?
also, don't you roll your eyes at me
I'm rollin'!!
You're just annoyed with me for saying some negative things about the list from your binky. I mean, your favorite school which everyone lauds as 'having a great match list' but seriously disappoints me.
we were talking about umdnj? lol
You know we were.
i actually didn't. But I looked at the 2005 match list right now. 10 people matched into unlinked internship years... is that a lot?
are you guys aware that several of the DO fields require matching DURING your internship year?...ie having to do the match twice no matter what....10 out of 100-ish? To me it does, but again - what do I know? Maybe they all wanted to do that.
Hey by the way, I'll send you the 2006 list if I can attach an excel file to a p.m.