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So lets say you make 250K a year and live in a state with state income tax...How much can you realistically expect to bring home? 150K per year, 175K?

I know that some docs might not want to reveal specifics, but I just had my financial aid exit interview today. Scared the **** out of me ;)

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depends on a lot..

was that 250K made.. as an independent contractor or as an employee.. If as an employee.. you can expect to pay about 75-80k in taxes and take home 160K... if independent contractor.. depends on your business expenses..
 
stephend7799 said:
depends on a lot..

was that 250K made.. as an independent contractor or as an employee.. If as an employee.. you can expect to pay about 75-80k in taxes and take home 160K... if independent contractor.. depends on your business expenses..

Thats pretty accurate.
 
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jetproppilot said:
Thats pretty accurate.


Say I decide to be an independent contractor working at different hospitals...can I then get the payments on my pimped out M3 deducted from my taxes since that will be my company car? :D
 
toughlife said:
Say I decide to be an independent contractor working at different hospitals...can I then get the payments on my pimped out M3 deducted from my taxes since that will be my company car? :D

lumped nebulously into your vehicle expenses, absolutely.
 
jetproppilot said:
lumped nebulously into your vehicle expenses, absolutely.


Can you do it if you have one anesthestizing location? I was under the impression that you can't deduct your car if used only to travel to and from work without traveling from site to site.
 
Idiopathic said:
So lets say you make 250K a year and live in a state with state income tax...How much can you realistically expect to bring home? 150K per year, 175K?

I know that some docs might not want to reveal specifics, but I just had my financial aid exit interview today. Scared the **** out of me ;)

Since you brought it up, does anyone know which states don't have income taxes? I'm thinking Nevada, Florida, and Washington St?
 
so as an independent contractor you dont work in a group? Are you basically just a locum tenens junkie??? I always thought w/ anesthesiology you always had to work in a group and couldnt just work as a hospital employee. why? cuz i thought that most hospitals had contracts with groups.

hahhaha...tough you got your M3....bring it on. wont be able to touch me in my http://www.hot.ee/ztest1/aston martin v8 vantage - 1024x768.jpg

:laugh:
 
jetproppilot said:
Thats pretty accurate.

Dude, shouldn't you be watching the game right now, your home state is taking it to the UCLA ruins.
 
toughlife said:
Say I decide to be an independent contractor working at different hospitals...can I then get the payments on my pimped out M3 deducted from my taxes since that will be my company car? :D

you can get the miles you put on the car deducted.. the miles you use for work.. the irs reimburses 44 cents a mile for the first half of 2005 and 48 cents the last few months.. or the depreciation of said car.. not both
 
ThinkFast007 said:
so as an independent contractor you dont work in a group? Are you basically just a locum tenens junkie??? I always thought w/ anesthesiology you always had to work in a group and couldnt just work as a hospital employee. why? cuz i thought that most hospitals had contracts with groups.

hahhaha...tough you got your M3....bring it on. wont be able to touch me in my http://www.hot.ee/ztest1/aston martin v8 vantage - 1024x768.jpg

:laugh:

there are plenty of people working as an independent contractor.. Im one of them.. would never work as an employee...
 
Noyac said:
Can you do it if you have one anesthestizing location? I was under the impression that you can't deduct your car if used only to travel to and from work without traveling from site to site.

In my previous (golden) gig, Noy, all partners had a leased vehicle through the company (which, initially to the untrained eye looks like a free deal, but, uhhh, we owned the company, so we were ultimately still paying for it, just realizing a tax deduction), which included all vehicle expenses. We did it with one anesthetizing location...but eventually acquired another, for 2 total.

Come tax time we'd get a letter from our business manager saying "your vehicle expenses were $15,432"....or whatever.

Then on your personal tax return you designate what percentage was business oriented....

usually 50%.

And heres an anecdote for my med student/resident colleagues out there.

This is my opinion, so it is not gospel. Just Jet's opinion.

I was previously in a fee-for-service group. We were our own bosses. We made our own rules. Employed who we wanted. Got rid of who we wanted. Billed for ourselves via business associates we selected. Owned our office building.

If hospital administration had a beef with us, it was presented in a cordial, "how do we solve this" manner.

Now I'm chief of an anesthesia service. But now, I'm a hospital employee.

Totally different gig, requiring a totally different mindset.

My $ are great. No complaint. Not up-to-par with my previous gig, but respectable nonetheless. Took the tradeoff for family reasons. In other words, I lived where I didnt want to for nearly eight years, which benefitted me in the monetary dept. So making a move to where my boss (wife) said we should live was possible.

But now, because of the gig I'm in, even though I'm chief of our dept, I'm still not my own boss. If something becomes awry, I'm on the chopping block.

I answer to some administrator. Some administrator who doesnt know the anesthesia biz like you do.

If you are a partner in a fee-for-service group (like my previous gig), you answer to...yourself. And your partners. If theres a problem at the hospital, assuming you run a tight/well respected/surgeons are happy/ group,

the administrators come to you, when you request them. In the OR.

Now, current day, I am summoned to meetings. I'm the one with stigmata marks. I'm answering to a paper pusher.

I'm where I need to be (geographically) now because of family. And because of intense (hospital vs hospital) competition in the area I'm at, hospitals either employ anesthesiologists or they give monetary augmentations to the group that covers their hospital.

I'm well compensated at my current gig. I don't need/want more $. And I get plenty of time off.

But theres an aching that occurs frequently when a company administrator/lawyer/consultant is telling you something you need to abide by, when you know their advice is not the best.

There is no utopia.

But a quasi utopia is being your own boss.
 
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jetproppilot said:
In my previous (golden) gig, Noy, all partners had a leased vehicle through the company (which, initially to the untrained eye looks like a free deal, but, uhhh, we owned the company, so we were ultimately still paying for it, just realizing a tax deduction), which included all vehicle expenses. We did it with one anesthetizing location...but eventually acquired another, for 2 total.

Come tax time we'd get a letter from our business manager saying "your vehicle expenses were $15,432"....or whatever.

Then on your personal tax return you designate what percentage was business oriented....

usually 50%.

And heres an anecdote for my med student/resident colleagues out there.

This is my opinion, so it is not gospel. Just Jet's opinion.

I was previously in a fee-for-service group. We were our own bosses. We made our own rules. Employed who we wanted. Got rid of who we wanted. Billed for ourselves via business associates we selected. Owned our office building.

If hospital administration had a beef with us, it was presented in a cordial, "how do we solve this" manner.

Now I'm chief of an anesthesia service. But now, I'm a hospital employee.

Totally different gig, requiring a totally different mindset.

My $ are great. No complaint. Not up-to-par with my previous gig, but respectable nonetheless. Took the tradeoff for family reasons. In other words, I lived where I didnt want to for nearly eight years, which benefitted me in the monetary dept. So making a move to where my boss (wife) said we should live was possible.

But now, because of the gig I'm in, even though I'm chief of our dept, I'm still not my own boss. If something becomes awry, I'm on the chopping block.

I answer to some administrator. Some administrator who doesnt know the anesthesia biz like you do.

If you are a partner in a fee-for-service group (like my previous gig), you answer to...yourself. And your partners. If theres a problem at the hospital, assuming you run a tight/well respected/surgeons are happy/ group,

the administrators come to you, when you request them. In the OR.

Now, current day, I am summoned to meetings. I'm the one with stigmata marks. I'm answering to a paper pusher.

I'm where I need to be (geographically) now because of family. And because of intense (hospital vs hospital) competition in the area I'm at, hospitals either employ anesthesiologists or they give monetary augmentations to the group that covers their hospital.

I'm well compensated at my current gig. I don't need/want more $. And I get plenty of time off.

But theres an aching that occurs frequently when a company administrator/lawyer/consultant is telling you something you need to abide by, when you know their advice is not the best.

There is no utopia.

But a quasi utopia is being your own boss.

Dude, I am right there with you. And come June 1st I will be the anesthesia director/chief. Not looking forward to that but somebody has got to do it. I hate those annoying pesky f*cking meetings.
 
jetproppilot said:
There is no utopia.

But a quasi utopia is being your own boss.

i agree w/ the above.

man, as a med student i know that i have to always answer to someone above me etc. Fudge...i just hate the fact that I would have to answer to a 'paper pusher'. friggin blows. I think docs w/ MBAs or MHAs should be adminstrators, not friggin regular MBAs.

I think as a regular MBA adminstrator the bottom line is $$$$. see, it's cuz of things like this that i'm reallllllllllllllllllllllly wanting to pursue a MBA. the only thing is if one does do that, they ahve to tk a pay cut and usually a MBA/MD get paid less (on average).

btw...i love it how you call ur wife the boss. man, i know that's gonna be me in a few years. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...the good ol' frat days boys, remember those? Days when you just answered to one thing....it begins with a P.....no silly, pleasure. :laugh:

oh the intricacies of medicine.
 
ThinkFast007 said:
btw...i love it how you call ur wife the boss. man, i know that's gonna be me in a few years. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...the good ol' frat days boys, remember those? Days when you just answered to one thing....it begins with a P....

P for....

PORN STAR.

yes think, I used to answer to the same p. used to think i was Peter North.....
 
Tennessee doesn't have it either Idio.
 
More fishing trip money. You like Sushi?
 
Idiopathic said:
Texas does not.


Yes but depending on where you live the property taxes can eat you alive and make up for that lack of state income tax, if that state that does have income tax doesnt have property taxes. Property taxes can sting you good here in the dirty south. Say you dont even have kids yet the school district is building new schools, bam you are stung with an increase and they just keep coming believe me.
 
nitecap said:
Yes but depending on where you live the property taxes can eat you alive and make up for that lack of state income tax, if that state that does have income tax doesnt have property taxes. Property taxes can sting you good here in the dirty south. Say you dont even have kids yet the school district is building new schools, bam you are stung with an increase and they just keep coming believe me.

6k annual property tax for where I live, for my property.

Thats a big no-limit Hold'em pot at the Harrah's poker tables I play at.
 
jetproppilot said:
6k annual property tax for where I live, for my property.

Thats a big no-limit Hold'em pot at the Harrah's poker tables I play at.


Yeah my parents property tax in La back in the day was like $200 a year. Tx is a different story though.
 
ThinkFast007 said:
so as an independent contractor you dont work in a group? Are you basically just a locum tenens junkie??? I always thought w/ anesthesiology you always had to work in a group and couldnt just work as a hospital employee. why? cuz i thought that most hospitals had contracts with groups.

hahhaha...tough you got your M3....bring it on. wont be able to touch me in my http://www.hot.ee/ztest1/aston martin v8 vantage - 1024x768.jpg

:laugh:


Dayum! Dude you going all out. I was trying to be humble man!

How's this porsche for some competition against your aston?
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/carrera_gt.asp
 
toughlife said:
Dayum! Dude you going all out. I was trying to be humble man!

How's this porsche for some competition against your aston?
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/carrera_gt.asp
not bad... those carrera GTs are sweet. The only thing I dont like is how the seats are brought tooo much to the front, so the car has that extended look.

i still like the aston over that bro
 
Wyoming has no income tax . . . shhhh . . . keep it on the DL. ; )
 
nitecap said:
Yeah my parents property tax in La back in the day was like $200 a year. Tx is a different story though.


Have condo in Houston. Approx $120K value and I paid $3700 in property taxes last year....Uncle Sam will always get his slice of your pie.
 
I know NOTHING about taxes so gosh is this thread great. I think I'm the only one. I was looking at tax brackets the other day...So say either single or joint filing, whatever, you or your/spouse are RIGHT at the jump - I want to say it's around $336K single, something else joint... Before the tax goes from ~$30K to ~$90K. Do people right at that gray area do something to avoid the HUGE tax increase? Like put money else where so it doesn't have to be reported? lol sorry guys I need a tax 101 lesson. :)
 
Very useful website to calculate your take home money for all states with their netpay calculator, just punch in the numbers, deductions etc. Plus you can see the states with no income tx. And you can compare the salaries of particular places with the national mean. I think its pretty accurate.
 
toughlife said:
Say I decide to be an independent contractor working at different hospitals...can I then get the payments on my pimped out M3 deducted from my taxes since that will be my company car? :D

Yes, but you may go to jail later.
 
jetproppilot said:
I was previously in a fee-for-service group. We were our own bosses. We made our own rules. Employed who we wanted. Got rid of who we wanted. Billed for ourselves via business associates we selected. Owned our office building.

If hospital administration had a beef with us, it was presented in a cordial, "how do we solve this" manner.

Now I'm chief of an anesthesia service. But now, I'm a hospital employee.

Totally different gig, requiring a totally different mindset.

My $ are great. No complaint. Not up-to-par with my previous gig, but respectable nonetheless. Took the tradeoff for family reasons. In other words, I lived where I didnt want to for nearly eight years, which benefitted me in the monetary dept. So making a move to where my boss (wife) said we should live was possible.

But now, because of the gig I'm in, even though I'm chief of our dept, I'm still not my own boss. If something becomes awry, I'm on the chopping block.

I answer to some administrator. Some administrator who doesnt know the anesthesia biz like you do.

If you are a partner in a fee-for-service group (like my previous gig), you answer to...yourself. And your partners. If theres a problem at the hospital, assuming you run a tight/well respected/surgeons are happy/ group,

the administrators come to you, when you request them. In the OR.

Now, current day, I am summoned to meetings. I'm the one with stigmata marks. I'm answering to a paper pusher.

I'm where I need to be (geographically) now because of family. And because of intense (hospital vs hospital) competition in the area I'm at, hospitals either employ anesthesiologists or they give monetary augmentations to the group that covers their hospital.

I'm well compensated at my current gig. I don't need/want more $. And I get plenty of time off.

But theres an aching that occurs frequently when a company administrator/lawyer/consultant is telling you something you need to abide by, when you know their advice is not the best.

There is no utopia.

But a quasi utopia is being your own boss.

I'm already guessing that the response I get will be "not specific enough", but here it goes...

Apart from the situation described above of being your own boss vs. employed and dealing with administrators, I am wondering what the raw income picture looks like for W2 vs. 1099. I have probably assumed (naively) that the extra gross income from 1099 would be wiped out in the extra taxes you would pay. I've assumed for this (probably inaccurate) reason that W2 would be the way to go and not worry about practice expenses, etc.

How does a CA-3 resident know how to evaluate that first employment offer out of residency? It is trial and error? Would most of you that are currently in private practice choose W2 over 1099 with all things being equal ? I understand that not all things are equal, but need a baseline to evaluate between the two employment categories.

In advance - please forgive my ignorance of practice expenses and tax advantages, etc.

Thanks.
 
You're asking a question that is very difficult to answer.


W-2 income is easy..

1099 income is difficult to quantitate. What are your expenses? Both required and optional...

Required expenses (for the most part)
- malpractice insurance
- ability to pay for tail / nose depending on what type of insurance
- license fees - CME - registration fees - DEA et cetera

Optional expenses (but probably a good idea)
- health insurance
- dental insurance
- retirement planning
- disability insurance
- life insurance (term and otherwise)


The cost of these expenses vary significantly based on where you live, your age, lifestyle, type of practice, your claims history, how many family members you have, your health.

Total expenses can cost up to 10,000 per month (pre tax dollars)...so if you opt out of expenses that you can opt out of, so your take home can be a lot higher, but do you REALLYl want to opt out of certain expenses????

Easiest way to compare is to look at gross compensation (including benefits package)...some jobs can give you less take home, but is worth more.

I know this isn't exactly what you're asking, but what you're asking is not a good question.....ie short term thinking.

If cash flow is all that you're interested in, than just ask the different jobs what your take home will be and compare that way.
 
Gardner said:
I'm already guessing that the response I get will be "not specific enough", but here it goes...

Apart from the situation described above of being your own boss vs. employed and dealing with administrators, I am wondering what the raw income picture looks like for W2 vs. 1099. I have probably assumed (naively) that the extra gross income from 1099 would be wiped out in the extra taxes you would pay. I've assumed for this (probably inaccurate) reason that W2 would be the way to go and not worry about practice expenses, etc.

How does a CA-3 resident know how to evaluate that first employment offer out of residency? It is trial and error? Would most of you that are currently in private practice choose W2 over 1099 with all things being equal ? I understand that not all things are equal, but need a baseline to evaluate between the two employment categories.

In advance - please forgive my ignorance of practice expenses and tax advantages, etc.

Thanks.

No need to apologize for your ignorance. We've all been there.

Whats important for you budding anesthesiologists out there to realize is, from a cash perspective, tax writeoffs are important...but not THE most important thing.

If you are eager to maximize your income, concentrate on areas of the country that reimburse anesthesiologists the most.

I've said this a thousand times, but I'll say it again:

Monetary reimbursement for anesthesia, and ANY specialty for that matter, varies greatly depending on where you decide to live.

Got an orthopedist buddy here in New Orleans. We were talking today about this very subject (reimbursement). In his biz, orthopedic reimbursement in this city isnt that great....he has a buddy in another city that makes three times what he makes for the same-whatever procedure (not that he's worried about it since he's from a rich family and his wife is a dermatologist, but compelling nonetheless).

Not implying he's not making great cash, because he is. But he could make more if he lived somewhere else, performing commensurate workload.

Yes, tax advantages are plentiful if you are a partner in a group, where partners are employees of said corporation/LLC, or you live in an area where you are independent (1099).

But heres my point....a doctor who is an employee of a hospital with a W-2 that says 400k at the end of the year, despite a paucity of writeoffs, will be monetarily ahead of the anesthesiologist who files 1099 (lots of writeoffs) that has an income of 250K.

Hope you followed that train of thought because from a pure financial perspective, mui importante.

In other words, dont get caught up in the tax-writeoff hype.

If you are in this country's top tax bracket (I think its >175k...hopefully some CPA/MD will chime in for the exact figure) youre gonna pay alotta taxes. No way around it. Yes, if you are self employed, you'll have alotta writeoffs. But youll still pay alotta money to the IRS.

So dont miss the boat. From a money perspective, its better to make 400k with no writeoffs than 250k with alotta writeoffs.
 
ThinkFast007 said:
not bad... those carrera GTs are sweet. The only thing I dont like is how the seats are brought tooo much to the front, so the car has that extended look.

i still like the aston over that bro

Yeah, Think, I was there once too.

Sports cars.....sweeeeetttttttt .

Made the transition to trucks.

Maybe someday I'll get another sports car toy, but I'll always drive a truck/SUV.

Nothing like stopping at a red lite in my black Yukon XL lifted nine inches in the air by her RCD lift kit , sitting atop 35-inch Nitto All Terrain Terra Grapplers, looking FAR BELOW at the pavement-hugging 911 turbo with occupants gazing skyward at the monster truck beside them blocking the sunlight, rolling down the limosine-tinted window, and saying

"WUSSSUP!! Needa dippa Copenhagen???" :laugh: :laugh:
 
jetproppilot said:
Yeah, Think, I was there once too.

Sports cars.....sweeeeetttttttt .

Made the transition to trucks.

Maybe someday I'll get another sports car toy, but I'll always drive a truck/SUV.

Nothing like stopping at a red lite in my black Yukon XL lifted nine inches in the air by her RCD lift kit , sitting atop 35-inch Nitto All Terrain Terra Grapplers, looking FAR BELOW at the pavement-hugging 911 turbo with occupants gazing skyward at the monster truck beside them blocking the sunlight, rolling down the limosine-tinted window, and saying

"WUSSSUP!! Needa dippa Copenhagen???" :laugh: :laugh:
see actually i'm sorta into trucks too. the fam was recently thinking of getting a truck. i was rooting to get a suburban, a yukon, or an older denali (hahah a little tony soprano style..ya know)...but never ended up happening. i really did want the suburban, those things are just monsters.

we ended up getting an escalade which i know isnt bad...looks tight as hell. but i really wanted just one of those other kinda trucks, so that i can abuse them. :laugh: :laugh:

oh wlel...maybe later
 
jetproppilot said:
Nothing like stopping at a red lite in my black Yukon XL lifted nine inches in the air by her RCD lift kit , sitting atop 35-inch Nitto All Terrain Terra Grapplers, looking FAR BELOW at the pavement-hugging 911 turbo with occupants gazing skyward at the monster truck beside them blocking the sunlight, rolling down the limosine-tinted window, and saying

"WUSSSUP!! Needa dippa Copenhagen???" :laugh: :laugh:


Call in sick tomorrow. Tell anesthesia group's contract lawyer you need to talk to him. NOW. Throw dude in XL. Duct tape if necessary for compliance. Meet with Copenhagen's representatives. Deliver abovementioned with storyboards and a good southern accent. Roll in royalties for the rest of your life.

Dude that would be the perfect commercial. Funny as hel-l.
 
jetproppilot said:
If you are eager to maximize your income, concentrate on areas of the country that reimburse anesthesiologists the most.

I've said this a thousand times, but I'll say it again:

Monetary reimbursement for anesthesia, and ANY specialty for that matter, varies greatly depending on where you decide to live.

Thanks for the info. There are certainly parts of the country I would not want to live in, regardless of income. Since I'm from Phx, I'd hate to have to live in the Northeast.

How does one know which cities/regions reimburse anesthesiologists the most? The factor that I follow the most is malpractice insurance. I'm pretty into it - following tort reform and getting malpractice premium quotes from time to time. Although CA is ahead of the game in that area, you will get taxed to death there. Can you generalize by city or region? If City A and City B are fairly equal in other factors, I'd rather choose the city with better reimbursement. It will probably all change by the time I need to decide anyway...
 
rn29306 said:
Call in sick tomorrow. Tell anesthesia group's contract lawyer you need to talk to him. NOW. Throw dude in XL. Duct tape if necessary for compliance. Meet with Copenhagen's representatives. Deliver abovementioned with storyboards and a good southern accent. Roll in royalties for the rest of your life.

Dude that would be the perfect commercial. Funny as hel-l.

Hmmmmmmmmm..........

What a great frikkin idea!!!!!

"Uhhh, Roddie?" (my partner)

(spit)

"I aint gonna be in this mornin..."

(spit)

"Why? Well...uhhh..."

(spit)

"Got an appointment with this Copenhagen representative....you can handle the cases, huh?"

(spit)
 
ThinkFast007 said:
see actually i'm sorta into trucks too. the fam was recently thinking of getting a truck. i was rooting to get a suburban, a yukon, or an older denali (hahah a little tony soprano style..ya know)...but never ended up happening. i really did want the suburban, those things are just monsters.

we ended up getting an escalade which i know isnt bad...looks tight as hell. but i really wanted just one of those other kinda trucks, so that i can abuse them. :laugh: :laugh:

oh wlel...maybe later

Yeah, think, Escalades are cool. But, uhhh, I'm a redneck from Florida. Escalades convey more of a hip-hop image, which I can be down with as well, as you know. But you don't see muscle-heads dippin' Copenhagen in an Escalade. My (brutha) partner has an Escalade. No Copenhagen commin' out that window.

here's what comes outta Roddie's Escalade window (which is cool, no less):

fifty cent intro...deep bass emanating from dual 15-inchers planted in the back...

DUH-DUH-TISH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH ...

i'll take you to the candy shop

i'll let you lick the lollipop

go 'head girl, don't you stop

keep going 'til you hit the spot (WOAH)
 
jetproppilot said:
...
DUH-DUH-TISH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH

DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH ...

i'll take you to the candy shop

i'll let you lick the lollipop

go 'head girl, don't you stop

keep going 'til you hit the spot (WOAH)

hahahah...soo true..

unfortunately i'm not 'hip hop' so dont have the 'tricked out ride'. i guess the family liked it cuz it was spacious. man, but i tell ya, i got a friend that's got one of thsoe escalades that you are referring to.. friggin thing is amazing...he took out hte back seats and its just friggin speakers galore. plus tvs behind all the seats and a 'grill'. dude's even got thsoe rims that spin when you stop. serioulsy something straight out of those rap videos. good stuff.. wont catch me in that though. you are just asking to get broken into in my opinion..
 
Idiopathic said:
So lets say you make 250K a year and live in a state with state income tax...How much can you realistically expect to bring home? 150K per year, 175K?

I know that some docs might not want to reveal specifics, but I just had my financial aid exit interview today. Scared the **** out of me ;)
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lawdawg said:
Since you brought it up, does anyone know which states don't have income taxes? I'm thinking Nevada, Florida, and Washington St?

New Hampshire--no state income tax, no sales tax.
Vermont--max state income tax rate is 9.5%, hugging trees is expensive business
 
Sometimes it's good to be poor. Just filed my taxes and after 1/2 of a PGY-1 year ($19,000) and not too much taken out each month I was not expecting too much a return. I grudgingly plunked down $40 to do my taxes on turbotax.com this year (was recommended by friends) and was in for a huge surprise. After my figuring, was going to get 1,700 back. I was stoked, but it got much better. The program asks you questions and then fills in the blanks. I was ready to submit when it told me I had 'missing information'. About five questions later my return jumped from $1700 to $5000.

I thought I had screwed something up until I saw the sweetest words every ---"Earned income credit". I have no idea who comes up with these things, but making less than like $38,000 a year with two kids (which I have), you are entitled to $3,200 no matter how much or how little you paid in taxes. You gotta be kidding me!!

This is chump change for our esteemed daddy's practicing private, but this is huge for a turd intern trying to support a fam. I can't even understand the 'poor paying taxes' argument surrounding the election because we don't freakin pay taxes. In fact, it looks like if I didn't work, I still might be entitled to cash! What in the crap is going on?

I guess I should thank Jet and Mil and the boys for the cash. You pre meds and first years can thank me in advance for the income I will give you someday.
 
Kids + mortgage + resident's salary = no income tax due !
 
Carm said:
Sometimes it's good to be poor. Just filed my taxes and after 1/2 of a PGY-1 year ($19,000) and not too much taken out each month I was not expecting too much a return. I grudgingly plunked down $40 to do my taxes on turbotax.com this year (was recommended by friends) and was in for a huge surprise. After my figuring, was going to get 1,700 back. I was stoked, but it got much better. The program asks you questions and then fills in the blanks. I was ready to submit when it told me I had 'missing information'. About five questions later my return jumped from $1700 to $5000.

I thought I had screwed something up until I saw the sweetest words every ---"Earned income credit". I have no idea who comes up with these things, but making less than like $38,000 a year with two kids (which I have), you are entitled to $3,200 no matter how much or how little you paid in taxes. You gotta be kidding me!!

This is chump change for our esteemed daddy's practicing private, but this is huge for a turd intern trying to support a fam. I can't even understand the 'poor paying taxes' argument surrounding the election because we don't freakin pay taxes. In fact, it looks like if I didn't work, I still might be entitled to cash! What in the crap is going on?

I guess I should thank Jet and Mil and the boys for the cash. You pre meds and first years can thank me in advance for the income I will give you someday.


There's something called the freedom tax project also run by turbotax where you pay $0 for doing your taxes (federal filing only) if you made less than 50K per year and are less than 50 years of age. That's what I will be using during residency.

Here's the link:
http://www.taxfreedom.com/
 
Yeah, my folks make a decent amount......like 2 years ago curiosity got the best of me and I snuck a peak at there tax bill......164K!!!!!!


Got a little shocker myself the other day, the wifey and I just found out we owe an additional 5k!! on top of the 17k we have already paid......P :eek:huck!


My Dad just says get a good CPA/Attorney and listen to what they tell ya, I dont know....maybe that is why his tax bill is so high or low :confused:
 
InGasWeTrust said:
Yeah, my folks make a decent amount......like 2 years ago curiosity got the best of me and I snuck a peak at there tax bill......164K!!!!!!


Got a little shocker myself the other day, the wifey and I just found out we owe an additional 5k!! on top of the 17k we have already paid......P :eek:huck!


My Dad just says get a good CPA/Attorney and listen to what they tell ya, I dont know....maybe that is why his tax bill is so high or low :confused:
word to the wise...get a good TAX cpa/attorney. They'll know every about every sort of write off possible. may cost more than say a free service...but certainly useful in teh long run. Don tthink i would use one as a poor resident, cuz i'm not reallymaking any dough. but later on as an attending when you have the potential to earn, having one of these guys working for you can get you a lot back in terms $$ ;)
 
96 Camry, teal green, 4 door.

Don't be jealous! Holla when you see me rollin.

PS Throw a shout out to the 1 and 2 year old chillin with sun visors in the back street. Man I'm getting old
 
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