Yale vs. Full Ride @ Columbia P&S

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  • Yale

    Votes: 12 11.8%

  • Full Ride @ Columbia P&S

    Votes: 90 88.2%
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I'm trying to decide between Yale and Columbia. I haven't gotten my financial aid package yet from Yale but I was wondering if any of you had ever heard of Yale giving out full rides. I really liked Yale when I visited, but I'm not sure if it is worth turning down a full ride to P&S.
I know that the grading system and the class sizes differ, but it seems to me that the students at Columbia have just as much time for activities as the Yale students do (i'm interested in getting involved outside of class, so it matters). Is there anything else that would be a major factor to base my decision on?
I am interested in doing research, more specifically, diabetes/metabolism stuff. I also would like to do work internationally.
I don't have much of a preference in terms of staying in NYC and I am from here, so it's not like New Haven is far either.

Please help!!

P.S. Full ride as in everything, not just full tuition
 
I wish these threads would be banned...how ridiculous...I kind of hope you are joking so that I can once again have faith that my fellow pre-meds are somewhat humble...but I know thats likely not the case...grrr
 
Lisy51 said:
I'm trying to decide between Yale and Columbia. I haven't gotten my financial aid package yet from Yale but I was wondering if any of you had ever heard of Yale giving out full rides. I really liked Yale when I visited, but I'm not sure if it is worth turning down a full ride to P&S.
I know that the grading system and the class sizes differ, but it seems to me that the students at Columbia have just as much time for activities as the Yale students do (i'm interested in getting involved outside of class, so it matters). Is there anything else that would be a major factor to base my decision on?
I am interested in doing research, more specifically, diabetes/metabolism stuff. I also would like to do work internationally.
I don't have much of a preference in terms of staying in NYC and I am from here, so it's not like New Haven is far either.

Please help!!



P.S. Full ride as in everything, not just full tuition
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Only you know the answer to that one. In the end you will be making the final decision as to where you will attend.
Ask yourself if it is worth being in debt to go to Yale over Columbia....in my opinion, I think it would be absurd to choose Yale.

While Yale has a great curriculum and grading system their patient base is not nearly as diverse. Furthermore, Columbia is a great school.

just my two pennies
 
snobored18 said:
I wish these threads would be banned...how ridiculous...I kind of hope you are joking so that I can once again have faith that my fellow pre-meds are somewhat humble...but I know thats likely not the case...grrr
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yes very very ridiculous...I think the OP just wants to put this out there b/c (s)he can
 
which area will provide you with the best outlet for freaky sex - including midgets, old people, and e-stim?
go forth and spread your seed, my child.
 
Columbia.....it would take ALOT to convince me to move to New Haven over Manhattan. The lack of the full ride doesn't convince me 😉
 
How about working at McDonald's? Much better option. 😀
 
Lisy51 said:
I'm trying to decide between Yale and Columbia. I haven't gotten my financial aid package yet from Yale but I was wondering if any of you had ever heard of Yale giving out full rides. I really liked Yale when I visited, but I'm not sure if it is worth turning down a full ride to P&S.
I know that the grading system and the class sizes differ, but it seems to me that the students at Columbia have just as much time for activities as the Yale students do (i'm interested in getting involved outside of class, so it matters). Is there anything else that would be a major factor to base my decision on?
I am interested in doing research, more specifically, diabetes/metabolism stuff. I also would like to do work internationally.
I don't have much of a preference in terms of staying in NYC and I am from here, so it's not like New Haven is far either.

Please help!!

P.S. Full ride as in everything, not just full tuition
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I presume by "full-ride" at Columbia you mean need-based, because to my knowledge Columbia does not give out any merit scholarships.

If that is the case, then your financial aid package at Yale will probably be comparable. Wait until you get that financial aid package (and go to the Yale second look, if you're going) and then post this poll if you're still having trouble making a decision...

There was also a Yale v. Penn v. Columbia v. Cornell thread a while ago that went into a fair amount of detail.
 
OrganLibrarian said:
I read this post and then... 😴
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i'm orgasmically narcoleptic, too. this thread was all, unnnh!
it was sweet and you better believe it. and by sweet, i mean totally awesome.
 
Could I offer you a personal scholarship to never post on SDN again?
 
Lisy51 said:
I'm trying to decide between Yale and Columbia. I haven't gotten my financial aid package yet from Yale but I was wondering if any of you had ever heard of Yale giving out full rides. I really liked Yale when I visited, but I'm not sure if it is worth turning down a full ride to P&S.
I know that the grading system and the class sizes differ, but it seems to me that the students at Columbia have just as much time for activities as the Yale students do (i'm interested in getting involved outside of class, so it matters). Is there anything else that would be a major factor to base my decision on?
I am interested in doing research, more specifically, diabetes/metabolism stuff. I also would like to do work internationally.
I don't have much of a preference in terms of staying in NYC and I am from here, so it's not like New Haven is far either.

Please help!!

P.S. Full ride as in everything, not just full tuition
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Can somebody please help me!! I'm having a tough time deciding whether to make love to this beautiful woman or stick this pole up my a$$. What should I do? I'm having a tough time with this one.
 
jebus said:
i'm orgasmically narcoleptic, too. this thread was all, unnnh!
it was sweet and you better believe it. and by sweet, i mean totally awesome.
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it felt good in my pee pee...and then i got this big red guitar and wailed on it
 
OrganLibrarian said:
it felt good in my pee pee...and then i got this big red guitar and wailed on it
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my hoo hah was all, "hey dilly dilly!"
then i was all, "skeet skeet skeet, in yo eye, i'm finna do my thizzle for rizzle. then i never ever stizzop back to the blizzock, heat to the pizzot trying to get back all that rizzock. chizzop that up. take it to the hill. trade it for dollar bills."
Unnnnh!
i spend it like i print it. living like john ritter with two bitches with it.
know my steez.
 
I vote for Yale just because this person seems easily confused
So why not have some fun?
 
I love that she says she's getting a full Scholarship, when in fact shes just getting financial aid.
 
sen said:
I presume by "full-ride" at Columbia you mean need-based, because to my knowledge Columbia does not give out any merit scholarships.

If that is the case, then your financial aid package at Yale will probably be comparable. Wait until you get that financial aid package (and go to the Yale second look, if you're going) and then post this poll if you're still having trouble making a decision...

There was also a Yale v. Penn v. Columbia v. Cornell thread a while ago that went into a fair amount of detail.
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P&S does offer merit scholarships. I think Yale is purely need-based. I have issues with going to Columbia. It has a terrible reputation in the neighborhood and most ppl there are arrogant and elitist about being affiliated with the university. I'm sure yale has it's fair share of that, but I got the impression that it was much more of an issue at Columbia. if it hadn't been for the $$ then I would have gone to Yale. The money though is enough to reconsider.
 
drhouse said:
I love that she says she's getting a full Scholarship, when in fact shes just getting financial aid.
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I generally call them grants if they're purely based on need, but I think a lot of schools do call them "need based scholarships"

To the OP- If it's based on need, then you'll probably get a similar deal at Yale... In any case, there's no reason to post the debate till you know....
And if you don't get good financial aid from Yale, you would be crazy to turn down a full ride....
 
Lisy51 said:
P&S does offer merit scholarships. I think Yale is purely need-based. I have issues with going to Columbia. It has a terrible reputation in the neighborhood and most ppl there are arrogant and elitist about being affiliated with the university. I'm sure yale has it's fair share of that, but I got the impression that it was much more of an issue at Columbia. if it hadn't been for the $$ then I would have gone to Yale. The money though is enough to reconsider.
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Not to be harsh, but any medical school in the ivy league is going to have its share of people with a stick up their butt about the fact that they are affiliated with an ivy league university... The fact that your subjective impression from a couple days at Yale was that it was slightly less there is not anywhere near good enough of a reason to turn down a full scholarship... Take it from someone who has never lived above the poverty line- the average American would think you were arrogant and elitist for turning down a full scholarship to top medical school....
 
Wait for your financial aid package from Yale. If the difference turns out to be small (that is, mostly grants), then go to Yale. Otherwise, I would say advice you to Columbia. It just doesn't make any sense not to. Yale and columbia are about equal in prestige and both schools will get you where you need to be. As for international work, I think both schools will do. Whenever you have a prestigious school in a residential neighborhood, there is bound to be some tension between the school (staff and students) and residents of the neighborhood. That is no reason to turn down Columbia.

I say go to Yale (if you like their financial package) because you clearly stated that if not for the money, you would easily choose Yale over Columbia.
 
Lisy51 said:
I have issues with going to Columbia. It has a terrible reputation in the neighborhood and most ppl there are arrogant and elitist about being affiliated with the university.
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I voted for Yale.
I'm guessing either one of your parents is faculty (I think there is a scholarship for this) or you speak Estonian.
 
Alright, I'm sorry everyone for posting this poll. I thought that maybe some of you SDNers would have some insight to offer on this situation, but obviously I hit a GIANT nerve. I had seen other people on this forum struggling with similar situations and I thought that maybe I could get some help. I've been around Columbia a big part of my life and for the most part, I have had negative interactions with the institution. Of course, I recognize the possiblity that being a student at P&S would be a different experience than what I have encountered in the past.

Again, I apologize for pissing people off. And as for the money, does it really matter what kind of aid it is as long as i dont have to pay for it?
 
Lisy51 said:
Alright, I'm sorry everyone for posting this poll. I thought that maybe some of you SDNers would have some insight to offer on this situation, but obviously I hit a GIANT nerve. I had seen other people on this forum struggling with similar situations and I thought that maybe I could get some help. I've been around Columbia a big part of my life and for the most part, I have had negative interactions with the institution. Of course, I recognize the possiblity that being a student at P&S would be a different experience than what I have encountered in the past.

Again, I apologize for pissing people off. And as for the money, does it really matter what kind of aid it is as long as i dont have to pay for it?
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I, for one, am not "pissed off"... I chose to read your post, and on some level I understand... It can be hard when you get your heart set on a particular place or get a really good feel from a particular interview to consider another school, even if objectively the choice would seem a simple one. Yet, I still think that you would be foolish to turn down a full ride to a top medical school to go to another one, which will provide equal opportunities and prestige... Also, the reasons that you're giving seem shallow.... A personal impression that Yale students and faculty seem humbler is just not enough to win my vote for going to Yale above a full ride to Columbia...

It doesn't really matter whether the money is need based or not, but when you post a thread like this that can come across as a bit conceited to begin with (though I'm not necessarily saying that you posted with that intention) and then say you got a full "scholarship" to a school that normally gives out need based aid rather than merit awards, you're going to raise some flags...
 
I agree with the above criticism to some extent. I however think that once you start comparing good schools (like Yale and Columbia) you have nothing but subjective measures to go by. I personally thinks there is nothing subjective about 200k though :meanie:

I think you should do a more personalized research. That is call students ,professors and people who live around both schools. Get some inside information and then make your choice. I had to do this for a couple of school and it turned out to be the best decision I could have made. Congrats for having so many choices👍
 
Lisy51 said:
Again, I apologize for pissing people off. And as for the money, does it really matter what kind of aid it is as long as i dont have to pay for it?
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Yes. Because the rest of us who have been accepted to P&S have never heard of any merit scholarships whatsoever except for the obscure examples given above. And the best finaid P&S gives is ~30K/year need based grant. So where does the rest come from?
 
I apologize for my post -- the OP did strike a nerve w/ me. Probably because I'd give my left nut to have a full ride anywhere. Instead I'm paying Colorado's $80K price tag for the first year.

Yours is a dillema many would gladly take.

Again, sorry for the initial reaction.
 
Lisy51 said:
P&S does offer merit scholarships. I think Yale is purely need-based. I have issues with going to Columbia. It has a terrible reputation in the neighborhood and most ppl there are arrogant and elitist about being affiliated with the university. I'm sure yale has it's fair share of that, but I got the impression that it was much more of an issue at Columbia. if it hadn't been for the $$ then I would have gone to Yale. The money though is enough to reconsider.
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i'm going to say yale because if you have that kind of attitude towards the school and neighborhood i'd rather you not be my classmate.
 
thanks guys. i've decided to go to medical school in mexico instead. enjoy the ivy league
 
Depakote said:
This thread makes me wonder...

Why is it always the ungrateful people that get the Top 10 Acceptances and the Full Rides?
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Yeah seriously, I feel this post is insulting to people who would kill for one accecptence to any US school; its seems pretty insensitive, and question itself is preposterous. Who the hell would turn down a full ride to a Columbia? This person whould withdraw atleast one acceptence ASAP so somone more appreciative can get a shot.
 
Lisy51 said:
thanks guys. i've decided to go to medical school in mexico instead. enjoy the ivy league
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let's make out
 
it sounds like you didn't feel comfortable at columbia, in which case you should go to yale. but if you're looking purely at prestige/rankings, there isn't a big difference between the two at all.
 
jebus said:
my hoo hah was all, "hey dilly dilly!"
then i was all, "skeet skeet skeet, in yo eye, i'm finna do my thizzle for rizzle. then i never ever stizzop back to the blizzock, heat to the pizzot trying to get back all that rizzock. chizzop that up. take it to the hill. trade it for dollar bills."
Unnnnh!
i spend it like i print it. living like john ritter with two bitches with it.
know my steez.
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this is by far the best post I've ever read....hahah you get 👍 👍
 
if you're like me and your daddy's paying for everything anyway...twenty years from now, when you're driving your mercedes-benz, like i am now, you won't care how much you paid for med school

so my advice is go to the real place not that glorified barber school columbia
 
RandomGuy said:
if you're like me and your daddy's paying for everything anyway...twenty years from now, when you're driving your mercedes-benz, like i am now, you won't care how much you paid for med school

so my advice is go to the real place not that glorified barber school columbia
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let's make out
 
Lisy51 said:
thanks guys. i've decided to go to medical school in mexico instead. enjoy the ivy league
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What sort of experiences have you had with P&S, anyway? (I'm really curious. I tried to PM, but you don't take PMs...)
 
Lisy51 said:
thanks guys. i've decided to go to medical school in mexico instead. enjoy the ivy league
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I hardly ever get pissed off at posts in SDN, but this entire thread is ******ed. First, I would never make a life-altering decision based on responses by complete strangers in a public forum let alone post such a question. It's you're life make your own decisions like everyone else does! It's not very difficult after all. Considering you got into both Yale and Columbia you must be somewhat intelligent at least. I think you can manage weighing the pro's and con's by yourself. Secondly, your comments are completely insensitive to those who have not even gotten 1 acceptance yet. I get the impression that you are just smearing your success into everyone's faces. Maybe, I'm wrong, but if this is a valid question from you then you really are ******ed. 😱 Well, this is what I get for visiting the pre-allopathic forum. 🙄
 
RandomGuy said:
if you're like me and your daddy's paying for everything anyway...twenty years from now, when you're driving your mercedes-benz, like i am now, you won't care how much you paid for med school

so my advice is go to the real place not that glorified barber school columbia
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Harsh, but so funny....
 
The OP apologized, why do people still feel the need to pile on? Can't you just give her the benefit of the doubt and consign this thread to oblivion by letting it sink off the front page?

(Yes I know that this post bumps the thread to the top, but I'm calling for an armistice - a post to end more snide posts).
 
Dr. Giggles said:
The OP apologized, why do people still feel the need to pile on? Can't you just give her the benefit of the doubt and consign this thread to oblivion by letting it sink off the front page?

(Yes I know that this post bumps the thread to the top, but I'm calling for an armistice - a post to end more snide posts).
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I wrote a nice and serious response to her further up the page.... But I'm still sorry if I laughed at other people's snide remarks...
 
Yeah I read your constructive response, I certainly wasn't directing my comments at you in particular. Ok now I'm done!
 
Yikes to all the drama here.

OP--go to Yale. You'll be happier there. Yeah, you'll have some debt. It's only debt. You won't be a hobo.*

It's funny that for some people it would be a no-brainer to take the ride, because to me, going to the school you love is the no-brainer.

*Disclaimer: if you take my advice and wind up a hobo after all, call me. I'll make you a sandwich.
 
Risa said:
Yikes to all the drama here.

OP--go to Yale. You'll be happier there. Yeah, you'll have some debt. It's only debt. You won't be a hobo.*

It's funny that for some people it would be a no-brainer to take the ride, because to me, going to the school you love is the no-brainer.

*Disclaimer: if you take my advice and wind up a hobo after all, call me. I'll make you a sandwich.
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No debt + Columbia PeniS = crazy delicious.

Also, I want that sandwich.
 
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