Who The F*ck Cares If Touro Was Right Or Wrong?

Ifellinapothole said:

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Sundarban1 said:

You would care if you were as passionate about gay rights as you are with the political left. If Touro didn't allow liberals to form a group on campus I bet you would be the first to start a online petition (in the lounge). Obvioulsy these students took action, more than just complaining on an anonymous message board, and won for their cause, which is a hell of a lot more than you have done for yours.

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Buckeye(OH) said:

Yeah, I dont really give a **** either. As I said in the other thread - their money? Their decision.

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bth7 said:

In many countries, throughout the world, homosexual behavoir is punishable by death, a frequent occurance.

In the US, men and woman are fired, harrassed, assaulted, or killed every year for being gay.

There are only 5 countries in the world where gay partnerships have parity with straight partnerships: Canada, South Africa, Belgium, The Netherlands, and Spain. In the rest of the world, gay relationships often receive no recognition, no marriage tax-breaks, no health-care visitation rights for the partner, no co-parenting rights.

Studies have repeatedly shown that Gay and Lesbian patients are often afraid to tell their physician about their sexual and social history. Without this basic information, no physician can provide the quality of care to LGTB patients that they would to any other minority.

With any minority, there are special health concerns. African-Americans have a higher incidence of hypertension. Eastern Europeans have children with an order of magnitude greater incidence of Tay-Sachs. 30 yo old caucasin females working in high pressure corporate jobs are the most likely demographic to have anorexia nervosa. They are also very unlikely to reveal it to their doctor.

These are just a few examples of how important it is for a physician to know the social history and demographic of her patients. Its simply a part of making a good Dx. If your patient is a member of a group that has been historically marginalized, it behooves the physcian to educate himself on the fact that this patient is far less likely to accurately reveal subjective health information.

There are very simple steps that any physician can take to decrease the incidence of this problem.

It's not activism, it's just good medicine.

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med-i-cal said:

This post has nothing to do with an LGTB club, it is simply an admonition to know your patients better. I've been reading the threads and still haven't seen the answer to the following question:

What does the LGTB club at Touro have to do with medicine? -It seems to be a social club more than anything.

If I started a group for video gamers and had no university financial support, I'd understand since it makes no sense. My group would receive no funding because it has nothing to do with medicine, just about getting together and playing video games, although we could also claim that we have unique health concerns that are caused by our lifestyle decision (and I can guarantee that obesity and diabetes in my group has a much higher incidence/prevalence than HIV/AIDS or any other condition typically associated with a LGTB lifestyle). In the end, they are both private interest groups without any medical relevance. I still fail to see the great social injustice...

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Larch said:

Since you obviously don't understand the importance of having social groups for minorities to meet on campus, let's set that aside and deal with something more practical. Touro violated the group's charter. They already had a contract set up, and the school broke the contract. I think fewer people would have been pissed off if the students were trying to start a club and the admin turned them down.

It's one thing to say, "We don't want ANY social clubs on campus," and then cut funding to all of them. It's one thing to refuse to let a club form in the first place. It's quite another to take an already established group, rip up it's charter, and say the members must disband (all the while leaving other completely frivolous groups intact).

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