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What January meeting? I was interviewd but never heard from them. What's going on?
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I am not choosing UConn but still will be there.
I am pretty sure I am choosing UConn and I'll be there. I see you there!
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Know what you are getting into if you choose to attend UConn. I'm not talking about the courseload; I'm talking about how the administration treats students: mandatory psych testing just cuz a prof doesn't like you, drug testing just cuz you piss off a prof, forced marriage counseling, assault, sexual harrassment, etc...it's f'in nuts!
PM me if you want more details.
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dude stop this bad rep you are creating all over the network. are you waiting on an interview and do not want ppl to go there for you to get a chance
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7 of my friends will be attending UConn dental next year and they have chosen it over great schools. so something is wrong with them eh?
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If you have been accepted to UConn, how did you find out? I interviewed in November and have not heard anything yet. aadsas still says 'invited for interview'.
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I got a letter and AADSAS update. I will deny UConn soon so you can have a chance. gl
Let me tell you something, I have spent time shadowing clinics at UConn and have many friends who are attending school there and they have nothing by praise about the faculty and the administration. I know every school has its ups and downs, and I don't know how much of what your saying is true (and yes i read 'that' thread so I know where you got your info) but all I will say is this; when you go to dental school the faculty's job is to turn you into a doctor and they need to take measures into their own hands to ensure that students are learning to behave professional under all the stress they are under. If you think the way they "handle" things is embarrassing or unacceptable, imagine being a dentists and messing something up with a patient, or handling a situation inappropriatley, or even worse, getting a lawsuit slapped in your face, thats embarrassment. Dental schools are mearly transforming us into professional, competent dentists who know what professionalism is, unfortunate;y not everyone understand this and needs a little backhand from the administration every now and then.
It is a priviledge and an honor to go to such a distinguished school as UConn and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from speaking in such a negative way about about another dental school. I don't think thats very professional or mature, and I would expect more from a future dentist.
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thanks aawla. just called. guess im on the waitlist. i happen to thick uconn is academically one of the best dental schools, because of their board rankings and such, but am a bit concerned about the demanding nature of the program. Not sure if i would attend if accepted later-mostly curious.
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that is exactly why i do not want to go to UConn. I have 4 friends in the med prog and 2 in the dental program and they say it is very tough. they like it too, but my friend in 4thyear told me that he would have chosen another school just bc of the med based and not having own faculty.
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Ey chris, go to 295 and relax it's our last class. and i would like to meet you in 3 years and see how you feel about the program. gl anyways
well no matter what someone thinks about it its just not right to bash a school like that for any reason, have you spoke to people who actually go there or just read things online?
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I'm putting a deposit down I think.
I got into Pacific also. The programs are so different but I like both ALOT.
Glad UConn's deposit is only $500 from what I remember.
I doubt UConn is as bad as some posters are saying. I expect it to be hard and demanding but I dont see it being mean and requiring drug tests. I'm going to call and ask about that stuff later next week.
I got into Pacific also. The programs are so different but I like both ALOT.
Glad UConn's deposit is only $500 from what I remember.
I doubt UConn is as bad as some posters are saying. I expect it to be hard and demanding but I dont see it being mean and requiring drug tests. I'm going to call and ask about that stuff later next week.
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I graduated from UConn already. I have nothing to gain by telling you this stuff. If you want to experience it for yourself, so be it.
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Frankly, I believe you are lieing. I don't think you shadowed there (they only let a select number of students shadow and only under specific circumstances). Further, I don't think you have friends there. I think you are just on this board brown-nosing.
There is no reason that future doctors cannot be trained without sexual harrassment and physical assault. If you cannot see that, then I suggest that dentistry is not the profession for you.
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If "bashing" that school keeps you from making a mistake that you will regret for the rest of your life, then consider it the lesser of two evils (to bash or to make a big mistake).
And, uh, I actually went there and graduated thank you very much.
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I must say I appreciate people's honesty on the forums-that's why they are here! If honesty hurts some people's feelings-oh well. As someone who is trying to decide on which school to attend, I appreciate people's input who have been to certain schools, IT HELPS ME WITH MY DECISION!!!! I want to know the truth about these programs, not the sugar-coated comments by admissions committees!!! Thanks Holy Thursday for your willingness to share your experiences with us!
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This is a part of a letter I sent to someone else explaining how the demanding program at UConn actually does not prepare you any better for the boards than any other school:
The curriculum does not go in depth into the material, it just covers more material (breadth). Thus, looking back on my choice of schools, if I wanted to go to a school that would prepare me well for boards, I would not have chosen a school that covers a broader amount of material, but one that goes in depth on the material that will be tested on the boards.
Choose UConn's demanding program is you want a program that will make you a general MD before making you a general dentist (good program for oral surgeon wannabes). Choose another program if you want strong preparation for the boards.
Additionally, I have come to understand why we score high on the boards. Administrators will have you believe that we score high b/c our curriculum is difficult. However, there are a few profs (very few) who will explain to you how we score so well. You accept only students that did very well in undergrad (good studiers and good test takers), you accept only a few of them (we are the 2nd smallest ds), then, when just a few kick ass on the boards, it brings up the entire average a lot (since it is such a small class). Dr. (name omitted) use to say this to us and as a freshmen, I didn't believe him. Now I understand that he was right. If you go to another school that accepted, on average, less qualified students as well as more students, their average on the boards would be lower than ours. That is not to say that there aren't students at those schools that do very well on the boards.
Another way UConn brings up their board scores is by failing the weakest links (even though we are P/F, we get graded on a curve). The weakest links in one class then become the stong links in the following class. I can't tell you how many ppl I knew who were kicked out, flunked several times (sometimes with good reason, and a couple of times over very petty things), etc, all in the name of keeping boards scores high! Just so you know, come graduation time, a little over 25% of my class had dropped out, been kicked out, or failed an entire academic year!
Bottom line: the didactics are difficult, but manageable yet they will not prepare you any better for the boards than any other school (since we cover breadth instead of depth). Additionally, the didactics are within your control...it is the emotional abuse and psychological torment by the administration that is not worth it. Whatever school you choose, make sure you know what you are getting into and then be willing to deal with the choice you made.
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You're Welcome! I only do this cuz I wish someone had told me this stuff before I entered ds. Remember, you are about to embark on some of the most important years of your life...they can scarr you if you don't choose wisely.
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If you graduated from this school, don't you have a career or something to be doing? Why would you have all this time to post every time someone mentions this school? How 'bout you get over it and work on getting a life???
Frankly, I'm not lying and have no reason to, I have spent much time at the AEGD clinic and know many faculty and students as I myself am from Connecticut I have been priviedged to spend much time there. I appreciate your honesty but am turned off by your constant bashing of a school that you now can use to brag about and to earn a living (and a very good one I'm sure). Don't forget that pretty DMD diploma on your wall was brought to you becuase you were priviledged to go to dental school, show a little respect at least. If you are truly hear to try to help us and you want us to respect your opinions the last thing you would be doing would be claiming us liars. Your ruining your own credibility as a supposed 'doctor' as I would think a real doctor would be a little more tacful, or at least I would hope so.
Wow, that's a lot.
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An older sibling of mine graduated from UCONN. I'll tell you why the program is for the ****s.
First, you graduate in a parking lot. Not a ****ty auditorium, but the faculty, second tier parking lot, with nothing between you and the ants. The rationale when asked why ? The faculty did not want to travel to far. This gives you an idea of how much the faculty gives a damn about you.
Second, McNeil is now the dean. He has been described as a bastard, who evaluates and writes recommendations prior to his promotion based on whether or not he liked you, as opposed to your merits (ie board part 1 scores, because it's pass/fail.)
Third, the rampant politics within the school. Egos in class from dentists who couldn't cut it in private practice. When there is an error in scheduling your own patients (no shows, not enough requisite procedures for clinical requirements), you are immediately harassed and blamed. Many patients are passed from upperclassmen to underclassmen. Problem is, some upperclassmen don't give a crap.
wow...the school seemed pretty nice when I visited it. Nice to know some insider info.
I don't think anyone takes to heart what a little boy says about his older brothers experiences. You have no idea what your talking about and further more, we base our decisions on a little more than where graduation takes place. Im sorry your still bitter about standing in the parking lot at your brothers graduation. Get over it and stop talking on this forum, this is a forum for people who are going to be doctors, not to listen to their baby brothers whining. Don't you have some homework to do or somthing?
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It's cuz I'm through with school that I have the time to do this. You, on the other hand, need to spend more time studying that way you can get in on merit and earn admiration from your future dental profs based on merit, not based on defending the school.
Holy Thursday,
I don't know what you did wrong to make UConn so mad at you and put you through psychological testing and what you so call 'abuse'. But if you graduated from there as you claim to have I would appreciate it if you atleast tell us what town you practice in so I don't acccidently end up the patient of a psychologically scarred, bitter practitioner, who spends the majority of his time talking students out of going to uconn dental school. Please tell me you don't routinely point that diploma on your wall as you work on patients and start telling them what a terrible school you went to. Bashing the school you graduated from is not the most effective way to instill confidence in your patients....just some friendly advice🙂
I don't know what you did wrong to make UConn so mad at you and put you through psychological testing and what you so call 'abuse'. But if you graduated from there as you claim to have I would appreciate it if you atleast tell us what town you practice in so I don't acccidently end up the patient of a psychologically scarred, bitter practitioner, who spends the majority of his time talking students out of going to uconn dental school. Please tell me you don't routinely point that diploma on your wall as you work on patients and start telling them what a terrible school you went to. Bashing the school you graduated from is not the most effective way to instill confidence in your patients....just some friendly advice🙂
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I still believe that you never shadowed there. There are very strict guidelines about shadowing at the school, and there should be given the serious malpractice insurance the school carries. Simply being in the clinics (even if you are just observing) is a serious issue for HIPAA and a serious issue for malpractice in a school setting.
I do not brag about the school; I actually regret that I graduated from a school that treats ppl that way. Hopefully, by calling them out on their mistakes, they will change the way they treat ppl.
Speaking of tact: check out the way you speak to others.
Bottom line: You don't have to believe anything I say nor do you have to respect me; but, I am trying to help you make an informed decision. I am not here to sugar-coat the truth. What you choose to believe/listen to is up to you, just don't say nobody warned you.
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While I agree that the graduation location should not make or break your decision, reporting his brother's experience is okay.
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Um, I interviewed with KingChris at UConn and talked with him while waiting for a good 90 minutes to be interviewed. I do believe that he has a VERY good understanding of the UConn dental program and if he feels that it suits him, let it be. I personally thought UConn was an alright school with the exception of the clinics not being as busy as I expected and the CURRENT students there seem to be unaware of the "doings" being "exposed" on SDN.
First of all I am HIPPA complient (trained and certified) and secondly I shadowed a respectable doctor who does work at a local dental clinic in my hometown and who brought me to the AEGD clinic along with ppl who I will not name (as that is confidential) and I onbserved residents performing extractions, implants, and fernectomies (that is the surgical removal of excess tissue in the mouth under the lip between the two front teeth). I have a hard time believing you are a graduate of this school and am more inclined to suspect that given all the free time you seem to have that you had attended and either dropped out or had been asked to leave.
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I'm a qualified dentist based on the fact that I have passed my boards (cuz I studied) and passed my licensing exams, etc. No, I don't "bash" (notice the quotes--cuz telling the truth isn't bashing) UConn to my patients, but I will warn aspiring dentists of the pros and cons. If they choose to not believe me, so be it. I'm am not here to make friends or I would say what ppl want me to say; I'm here cuz I wish someone had told me this stuff before I entered ds.
Just so you know, it is hard for me to lose my cool with you since I use to think the way you did. If you had told me this stuff before I entered ds, I too would've thought this was a one time incident or just one random student with a chip on their shoulder. I mean, this stuff is so crazy I wouldn't have believed it unless I lived through it. Thus, I guess some ppl (myself included) have to learn the hard way.
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Why are you going to the second look weekend but not going there for ds?
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King Chris: you speak of how unprofessional and unproductive it is that I "waste" my time "bashing" UConn, but have you ever noticed how you constantly waste your time bashing ppl whose opinion differs from yours? Some advice: Rather than using emotional arguments and belittling comments, try using logical arguments.
Consider the following: Wouldn't I be a creep if I knew how awful UConn was and lied about it on this forum. Wouldn't I be a jerk if I knew how awful UConn was and just kept my mouth shut. Call it "bashing" or what-you-will, but not speaking the truth is worse.
Finally, I don't plan on responding to your insults anymore...that is not what I am here for. I am here to warn those who are willing to listen. You might try listening to ppl cuz if might help you not make a bad mistake.
If anyone has any questions about UConn, post them here in this thread and I will respond to them. If you are afraid to post them, then PM me--just know that I might post what I tell you (without revealing your identity) since I am trying to inform ppl here.
Well, one thing is true: Something must have happened that got former dental students from UCONN so riled up that they post so much negatives on the dental and predental forum. It's like cause and effect. You can't simply have something happen without an instigating factor. Unfortunately.
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Not that I want to get into this at all, and I won't so don't PM me.
But, I have a freind who is a D4 and he has told me his perspective; there are many correlations to what has been said in this thread.
Choose a school wisely 🙂
But, I have a freind who is a D4 and he has told me his perspective; there are many correlations to what has been said in this thread.
Choose a school wisely 🙂
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i believe that certain personality types will do very well at UConn. i think KingChris will thrive, and obviously others didn't do so well like Holy Thursday. there is the possibility that both outcomes do happen.
that being said, it seems that UConn does have more negative feedback than any other school on this discussion board. and one can at least admit there doesn't seem to be the school love that Pacific or Columbia engender.
[shrug] was waitlisted so not a problem for me! 🙄
though i've found this thread one of the more fascinating ones..
that being said, it seems that UConn does have more negative feedback than any other school on this discussion board. and one can at least admit there doesn't seem to be the school love that Pacific or Columbia engender.
[shrug] was waitlisted so not a problem for me! 🙄
though i've found this thread one of the more fascinating ones..
What's the Jan meeting? is it in the acceptance letter? i still haven't looked at mine since it got sent to my house
I read a thread on the dental forum about UCONN that was not very favorable for the school. I had no intentions on applying but it was interesting.
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Tell him about this website and encourage him (and even those with positive experiences) to post info here (as long as they aren't afraid). Both sides of the story will help ppl choose a school wisely.
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yes another UCONN thread!😀
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If it is what it use to be, it is called 2nd look weekend. It is suppose to give you a 2nd look at the school. It isn't going to tell you anything more, it's just fun and makes you feel like your comfortable at the school. It really doesn't tell you anything more about the school.
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I actually did pretty well...pretty well on exams, pretty well with fellow students, pretty well with the faculty (with the exception of a few, but that will happen anywhere). But I consider myself fortunate. It is so easy to just breath and find out you pissed off someone. Plus, your support system of friends gets decreased pretty quickly when so many of them are going through so many crises and you have to be there to support them all.
Advice on surviving UCONN: Don't talk too much or too little, be at all functions, do well on all exams, get in good with the right professors (listen to the grapevine), pay attention to the politics, agree with profs on everything, smile but not too much, and if you do happen to take a breath around the wrong prof then just grovel...luckily, one of the worst profs to get on the wrong side of is gone now...he is endo dept head elsewhere...lucky them!
Typically the AEGD clinic with residents is much different than the general clinic with students.
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Consider it a blessing in disguise. 👍 Further, I'm sure that if you got waitlisted at any school, then you probably got accepted to another school as long as you applied to enough of them.
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Reiterating what I said in the other thread..."jump through the hoops" quietly.
Fly below the radar. All good things. Do this at any dental school and you will be fine. I have found several things about temple I could make a stink about. What does it accomplish? A black-dot next to my name for four years...not fun. I talk up Temple everywhere I go and to anyone who can stand to listen to me because it is a good program. Take the good with the bad. No it is not a perfect program, no where is.
Just look at the problem, smile, move on. I am sure UConn is a similar situation. I had to do a 4 hour 'nameless' activity twice because (#1 I did not read all the instructions...my fault) #2 I did it earlier than someones opinion thought I should. I could have fought this person and whined and bickered with him, but I sucked it up, said it wasn't worth it and redid the assignment.
A small example compared to the 'emotional rape' allegations at UConn, but a good metaphor nonetheless.
Okay well that was a good study break.
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yeah, i'm all set. i only applied to a handful of schools, i didn't realize how competitive the process would actually be! but i got my top choice (and only admit) 😳
i could've sworn i nailed my UConn interview as well; i'm usually pretty good at reading people and changing my strategy accordingly.
sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!
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Please, get over yourself. As of now, we are no more of a professional than a server at Dairy Queen. If you choose to go to Uconn (and I hope you do, as you sound like you need a rude awakening from your idealism), I hope your family enjoys front row seats in the parking lot at your graduation. If you want a polarized experience in clinic, shadow the clinic at UoP. Until you yourself, or someone you know very well has completed the duration of the 4 years, then please, feel free to defend it, with more specifics than a generic barrage of the "professional tempering."
You must be joking. These forums exist precisely to share negative and positive experiences about interviews, schooling, curricula, and life aside from the didactics. You have no right to censor any dialogue.
However, while you are on your maturity box, perhaps you can spot the paradox in your own advice. Personal insults are fine, but insults against an institution (ie Uconn) are not ?
Get over that graduation. I really don't base my decision on where the graduation takes place! Are even a dental or predental student or just hear to voice your complaints about standing in a parking lot for 45 minutes while your big brother got his diploma?
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