let's hear it for the jayhawks
Hey good luck getting this thread started. I started one last year and there just aren't a lot of us (KU Med students) that frequent these boards.
Yeah I noticed that too. A little trivia: SDN itself started as a KU invention!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_doctor_network
Hi NR! I'm probably going to be at KU next year, and I wanted to know if you had any advice about preparing, etc. In my case, I'm taking this semester off, so I might be a little rusty when class finally starts. Do you think it would be helpful to read some sort of primary on anatomy/phys or something along those lines (I have a lot of spare time)? If so, what books can you recommend? I've never taken an anatomy class before, so I'm a little worried.
Thanks for the help!
(and tough loss last night against TTech)
that was a very thorough and helpful response!
Hey good luck getting this thread started. I started one last year and there just aren't a lot of us (KU Med students) that frequent these boards. I'm a med student at KU, (M1) and am willing to answer any questions you might have. Congrats class of 2011. Good luck when next year comes around!
yes, lilnoelle is my hero too! i now understand why the wizard of oz guy her!
lilnoelle, can you comment on any experiences you had with competing Missouri schools? I mean, did you specifically want to go to KU, or did you just get no love in your declared state of residence? Just curious--you have a very unique prospective since Big 12 country is pretty well-known for favoiring in-staters heavily.
I just wrote a long pm to someone with questions about KU and thought it would be worthwhile to stick it here as well. I apologize if any of it is repeats from previous posts.
Concerning curriculum...
We just started a systems based curriculum this year. There have been a few hiccups but everything should be ironed out for you for next year. A good example of this curriculum is the current block we're in. It is cardiopulmonary. We started out doing the thoracic anatomy, including the heart and lungs of course, along with major muscles, nerves, vessels, for the chest and back. Along with anatomy, we learned about physiology, pathology, histology, clinical skills, heart sounds, etc of the heart and some addition info concerning circulation and innervation/autonomic nervous system.
We had an written exam and a lab practical four weeks into the block. Just recently we started the pulmonary part of the block. Our exam is in two weeks (total block length, 8 weeks). For individuals that are not satisfied with the grade they recieved on their final, they have the opportunity to retake the test after the weekend (different test of course). They are also letting us retake the anatomy practical, but I think this is a one time thing since it was our first practical. After this next exam, we'll have a day off, and then we'll start the GI system. Some blocks are 8 weeks, some are 4 weeks, some are 6 weeks, I think with the 4 week or 6 week blocks there is just one exam, not two.
In addition to lecture (3 hours of lecture a day), we have PBL about twice a block, small group session once a block, histology lab once or twice a block, physiology labs a few times a block, and clinical skills once or twice a block. So far, (as mentioned, I'm an M1) we have learned interviewing skills, learned how to take vital signs, done a preliminary cardiac exam and a preliminary lung exam. We also do a preceptor visit once a block that is meant to help us practice our skills in a clinical setting.
I think thats probably enough info on the curriculum, but let me know if you want more information.
I like KU, but its hard to know how it compares to other schools since KU is really all I've ever experienced. Why did I choose KU? Well, it was either KU or the osteopathic school in town, and I picked KU for the loan program that I'll mention later on. One thing I like about my class is that we seem very normal. I feel like I fit in with my classmates and that was something I was concerned about before starting med school. If you spend enough time on SDN you start thinking everyone is published, traveled the world, recieved 35+ on the MCAT, and has 20,000 hours of volunteering. I'm sure there are some individuals in my class who are exceptional, but I have not detected any semblance of competition or snobbery in the class.
One thing that is pretty cool about KU, they've gone completely computerized. We all buy a notebook (same one) as a part of our fees and were given it during orientation. Everything we need to use to study, take notes, etc is on that notebook. I've really liked this. Even most of our textbooks are either online or downloaded onto the notebook.
Concerning facilities... I'd say that the school itself doesn't have the best facilities. It is pretty much mixed in with the rest of the campus. I've heard a rumor that they plan on building on a new wing that will be dedicated to the school of medicine though.
The hospital has made some major improvements recently. I think Kansas budgeted something like 5 million dollars on a new cancer center they just built. They also put in a couple of new buildings and they are not done with their project. I think some of things will be important to us once we get into our clinical years (or residency for that matter)
Concerning cost... If you are in state, tuition is something like $20K a year. If you are out of state (me) tuition is ~$36K a year. They are not likely to let someone who is out of state first year claim residency later on. Some states are lenient about in state tuition. Kansas is not.
Concerning focus.... Kansas is very much about trying to get primary care doctors out into their underserved areas. All but 4 counties of Kansas are considered underserved. If you are interested in primary care, I would emphasize this. If you have Kansas ties (if you are OOS) I would emphasize this. If you are interested in working in primary care in rural or underserved area, definitely emphasize this.
Kansas has a very neat loan assistance program that I am a part of (though I am about to get out of it). If you are absolutely certain you want to work in primary care (defined as family practice, pediatrics, internal medicine, or emergency medicine) and are willing to work in underserved Kansas, the KMSL program will essentially pay your tuition plus a monthly stipend of $1500 for four years of service in underserved Kansas. There are pretty steep penalties if you back out after your first year (why I'm planning on backing out now instead of later) so its not a good thing unless you are absolutely sure that primary care is what you want, but for those who are certain of this, its a fantastic deal. Especially if you are out of state like me, cuz it is essentially ~$55K that they are paying. My loans would be $55K times 4 less if I continue with this program.... but I'm not absolutely positive about primary care, so I'm pulling out.
Hmmmm.... I'm not sure what else to say. Do you have any questions?
Nice summary Noelle....
I'm still hoping for an interview, though my app got screwed up, and my stats probably aren't where they need to be.
I'm still holding out hope that my growing up in Rural KS and wanting to practice in Rural KS will have some effect in whether or not I get an interview.
Does anyone know the requirements for the Kansas Medical Student Loan, besides commitment to work in a underserved community?
If my wife and I move to KC and become residents, there is no way that we can get in state tuition after a year or two? Even if my wife works and we buy a home? Anyone know?
Have you written that letter of intent yet?
hey felipe, how is the parking around the medical school? also, some people mentioned that they lived in that tall apartment building next to campus. is it easy to live farther out than that (traffic-wise)?
Nice summary Noelle....
I'm still hoping for an interview, though my app got screwed up, and my stats probably aren't where they need to be.
I'm still holding out hope that my growing up in Rural KS and wanting to practice in Rural KS will have some effect in whether or not I get an interview.
If my wife and I move to KC and become residents, there is no way that we can get in state tuition after a year or two? Even if my wife works and we buy a home? Anyone know?
Does anyone know the requirements for the Kansas Medical Student Loan, besides commitment to work in a underserved community?
Concerning living arrangements, a lot of individuals live a distance from the school and I would say traffic isn't much of an issue. (at least its not for me) It would be nice to live within walking distance of the school though.... and there are quite a few appartment buildings in that area and also quite a few houses that are for rent. I guess it just depends on what you want, convenience or a nicer neighborhood.
Go to practice in Hays or Great Bend. Both are okay towns to live in but are severely in need of docs. I have relatives there who have to wait a long time to get in.
Even at interview time, they will consider your propensity to stay in the state as a condition of your admission. By the rules, you should be able to get in-state status for both AMCAS and tuition purposes, but just be aware that they REALLY want people who do plan to practice there.
thanks lilnoelle - i was just trying to give you a break and bother someone else for once!
Nikki, is this just for Scholars in Rural health program? Or for in general? Since you mentioned working in an underserved community, I'm thinking you might mean the rural health program... if so here's the basic info and requirements... if not, sorry I'm not much help!
no, i'm not from pitt but i have a few friends there who are education majors. they seem to like it! i'm hanging around olathe a lot these days since i graduated in december. i'm getting pretty nervous about starting school again.
for the current med students, do you have any idea how safe the cambridge west apartment complex is? it's cheaper than rainbow ridge and i also liked the layout better (bigger rooms). the narrow hallways between buildings kind of creeped me out, though.
So where is everyone from?
thanks lilnoelle. it's funny because i was looking at the johnson med center apartments, which are off 39th and Booth. I guess there's a reason it was such a good deal for a 2BR!
and to The pK, my letter came in the mail. It took 7 days to travel 21 miles, so don't stress too much if it doesn't come for a while. It took a month for me to find out (int: 11/27, a: 12/28). if it helps, i felt the same way about my interview. good luck to you!
I interviewed on Feb 7th (the 2nd to last interview day).. At the time they told us that they would probably be making decisions about most of us around St. Pats day (March 17th). Thats far enough out that I have managed to hold off on getting nervous just yet I'd be curious to hear when other people who interviewed around the same time as me hear back.
I interviewed on Feb 7th (the 2nd to last interview day).. At the time they told us that they would probably be making decisions about most of us around St. Pats day (March 17th). Thats far enough out that I have managed to hold off on getting nervous just yet I'd be curious to hear when other people who interviewed around the same time as me hear back.