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How much are you guys making at your residency in terms of dollars per hour. For instance, I get 4 weeks vacation and make $45,200 per year (gross not including benefits) as an intern and work about 55 hours per week on average (actual time on duty, not including home call or study time). So 45200/[55x(52-4)] = $17.12/hr.
 
Why? Are you trying to show that at 55 hrs per week, you earn MUCH more hourly than most of the others here?😛

At any rate, many, many years ago when I was an intern...the hospital told us we were making $17.something an hr. Trouble was that was calculated on a 40 hr week...since it was before the 80 hr week, we divided by 3 (since 120+ hr weeks were common) and got $5.66 an hr or so with 3 weeks vacation. I'm sure its much better now (since the salary is better and the hours slightly better).
 
I'm killing that number of hours as a med student on rotations with no overnight call. I think you may be underestimating average hours.
 
Since most hourly paid workers who work over 40 hours/week get paid overtime (typically time-and-a-half) I"m going to factor that in...

I work about 90 hours/week, get paid about 863 per week. (Just under 45K per year).

So...

40x + 50*1.5x = 863
x = 7.50 dollars/hour


Ouch.
Taco Bell pays better!




TRAMD said:
How much are you guys making at your residency in terms of dollars per hour. For instance, I get 4 weeks vacation and make $45,200 per year (gross not including benefits) as an intern and work about 55 hours per week on average (actual time on duty, not including home call or study time). So 45200/[55x(52-4)] = $17.12/hr.
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toxic-megacolon said:
Since most hourly paid workers who work over 40 hours/week get paid overtime (typically time-and-a-half) I"m going to factor that in...

I work about 90 hours/week, get paid about 863 per week. (Just under 45K per year).

So...

40x + 50*1.5x = 863
x = 7.50 dollars/hour


Ouch.
Taco Bell pays better!
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Good point on the overtime. Then I would be making $15.07/hr. I have not calculated an exact average of my hours, but they have ranged from 20 (easy rotation, no call that week) to 97 (10 hour days and 3 nights of call). I record all of my hours and although I didn't actually go back and average them all I believe I have a pretty good idea of what they are on average. However . . . as I am sitting here thinking . . . 60 hours is probably a better idea of how much I am working on average. Figuring overtime for more than 40 that comes to $13.45/hr.
 
How are you working 55-60 hours a week?! What residency are you doing?
 
Prelim year in Family Medicine. Then I go on to PM&R which I hear isn't too bad.
 
TRAMD said:
How much are you guys making at your residency in terms of dollars per hour. For instance, I get 4 weeks vacation and make $45,200 per year (gross not including benefits) as an intern and work about 55 hours per week on average (actual time on duty, not including home call or study time). So 45200/[55x(52-4)] = $17.12/hr.
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Is that an accredited program?
 
dutchman said:
Is that an accredited program?
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Of course it is. The real problem nowadays with accreditation is having residents work too many hours. I have friends who went to transitional programs that were even more cush than mine. Start writing down your hours, it might be less than you think. Regardless, I know I have it good here and I like it.
 
The problem with "counting hours" is that it never includes time away from work that you use to study, read, work on projects, whatever. I am always amused when I see people in other careers who don't do anything related to work once they leave work apart from checking their email.
 
Very valid point about working at home. Many fields that are considered lifestyle residencies just involved more work outside of the hospital. For example, my friends in Path read and study/look at slides all the time. It seems a little better because they can do that on their own timeframe and not at 5 am, but still time spent working none-the-less.
 
Pir8DeacDoc said:
Very valid point about working at home. Many fields that are considered lifestyle residencies just involved more work outside of the hospital. For example, my friends in Path read and study/look at slides all the time. It seems a little better because they can do that on their own timeframe and not at 5 am, but still time spent working none-the-less.
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i would much rather study or do other work on my own time from home than be at the hospital or workplace for that much longer. However, I agree- if you calculate how many hours you have spent studying and working, it will be rather high regardless of field.
 
dutchman said:
Is that an accredited program?
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Except that I moonlight as much as I can, I work less than 55 hours per week now that I have gotten clear of my two intern years. In fact, at my program we work 14 12-hour shifts per 28-day block which only comes out to 42 hours per week or so. Maybe add five hours for conferences (but some days the conferences coincide with shifts) and a few hours here or there for shifts that run over (because we never leave exactly on time but I doubt I have gone over fifty since July.

This is not to say that we don't work hard when we are at work. We don't get breaks and the department is always busy except when it is madhouse and then it is insane. But the hours are pretty good.
 
TRAMD said:
Prelim year in Family Medicine. Then I go on to PM&R which I hear isn't too bad.
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Wow, how did you swing that? I've heard of a school creating a prelim peds year, but prelim family? Well done! 👍
 
joe6102 said:
Wow, how did you swing that? I've heard of a school creating a prelim peds year, but prelim family? Well done! 👍
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I just talked to the residency director and told him my situation and they agreed to take me for a year. I went through the match for PM&R (which accepts FM as a prelim year) but didn't have to even worry about the match for my 1st year. It is a great residency and I love it. If I were doing FM I would love to stay all three years.
 
let's see 80/hr wk except for 12 wks of ambulator/elective which is 40/wk.

44,000/ (12*40 + 38*80) = $12.50/hr. That sucks. 🙁
 
joe6102 said:
Wow, how did you swing that? I've heard of a school creating a prelim peds year, but prelim family? Well done! 👍
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I've never heard of a true "prelim" year in family medicine, but I can't imagine why this would be particularly desirable. Intern year in FM is pretty much the worst year, with the most call, similar to an IM program. If you're truly a "prelim" and not categorical, prepare to be dumped on...much like prelim IM.

If you're looking for "slack-tivity," do a transitional year.
 
KentW said:
I've never heard of a true "prelim" year in family medicine, but I can't imagine why this would be particularly desirable. Intern year in FM is pretty much the worst year, with the most call, similar to an IM program. If you're truly a "prelim" and not categorical, prepare to be dumped on...much like prelim IM.

If you're looking for "slack-tivity," do a transitional year.
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True 'dat! I am enjoying my year, working hard (by my perception) and learning a lot (nothing more well-rounded than FM!). I have a buddy, however, who did a transitional year and it was MAJOR slack . . . as in less than 40 hrs per week on average.
 
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