Do any of you have experiences (or know someone with experiences) applying for internship during the 3rd year of the PhD so that the 4th year would be the internship year (as opposed to the traditional 5th year)? Assuming that someone can get far enough ahead in terms of research/dissertation, does this ever happen? Can someone even accumulate enough clinical hours by Nov of 3rd year to make this possible?
Applying for internship in 3rd year (for 4th year)
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I'm really not sure how it would be possible to get the clinical hours to be competitive, get enough research, and complete a dissertation in that period of time at a traditional Ph.D program. Thoughts anyone?
PS: I actually think 6 years (5 + internship), is the "average" in traditional Ph.D programs. Although my programs does get everyone out in 5 generally (4 +1 internship). I have heard horror stories of 8, and even 9 years though.
PS: I actually think 6 years (5 + internship), is the "average" in traditional Ph.D programs. Although my programs does get everyone out in 5 generally (4 +1 internship). I have heard horror stories of 8, and even 9 years though.
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Agreed. Unless you have an "in" somewhere....which APPIC would frown on (but it happens), that would be a tough thing to do.
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Maybe if you had a related masters degree and clinical hours that you could count before you started the PhD program and they let you transfer a bunch of credit for it? Just a shot in the dark.
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I know a few people who came into my program at the same time as me, but had either a masters degree or enough clinical experience (I don't know how much though) and were allowed to accelerate their coursework to finish in 3 years instead of 4. 1 matched and 1 didn't. The main reason was lack of clinical training hours. So I'd guess if your training hours are in the average range of the sites you'd like to apply to, then you could apply. If you're way below, then I'd wait unless you're ok with the time/money investment and want to take a gamble.
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That's a good point. I think a big problem with it is that in the match, you will be going up against people who have been in for 5-6 years and have more clinical hours, wider breadth of experiences, and more publications.
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There are only so many "good" sites, so that group of sites isn't growing with much quickness. The accreditation process takes multiple years (application, review, at least 1? completed round before it can be accredited, measure of training goals/outcomes, etc), so adding sites is an involved process, in addition to the fact that it is VERY expensive to get a site up and running because of the required supervision, space, resources, and man hours required to have a proper site.
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