Another terrible BR question - on gels this time

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this is another brilliant question from TBR's CBT #3 BS. i won't go too far in the specifics since you need to see the passage. the question says:

"The results of gel filtration through agarose beads and carboxymethyl-cellulose beads can BEST be explained by saying that the larger proteins have elution times through agarose beads that are:"

2 of the choices are obviously wrong. you choose between...

1)
faster, while carboxymethyl-cellulose beads cause the positively charged proteins to be hindered by attraction to the beads.

or

2)
slower, while carboxymethyl-cellulose beads cause the positively charged proteins to be hindered by attraction to the beads.

I chose #2 because larger proteins SHOULD move slower through the beads since they are larger and cannot fit through the pores, right?

they say the correct answer is #1. here is their explanation: "
A is the best answer. The carboxymethyl-cellulose beads carry a negative charge, so the column attracts, binds, and consequently retains positively charged proteins. This eliminates choice B and D. Choice A is a better answer than choice C, because the pores in the beads hinder the smaller proteins that pass through them, unlike the larger proteins that bypass the pores in the beads. The best answer is A."

umm, what? how does that make sense? it doesn't. why would larger proteins bypass the pores in the beads over SMALLER ones? that makes absolutely no sense.

before i conclude TBR's tests are garbage (tho still good practice because they usually make me think very hard, excluding a few crappy questions like this), i want to make sure i am correct and not them.

btw, i know it's better not to paste their questions on here, but they offer NO help on their CBTs. it specifically says that on their website. i don't have a tutor or anything, so where else do i get help. thanks guy!

 
I don't remember any of this ****, but I just wanted to tell you that you have the best screen name on this website.
 
smaller proteins are attracted to the very-polar pores within the beads. larger proteins are also attracted, but have no chance of fitting within the pores, so they bypass them completely.

it helps to consider that what the proteins want is not necessarily to get through to the other end of the filtration mechanism as fast as possible, but instead, the proteins want to stay close to whatever is attracting them. in this case, the larger proteins WANT to get inside those pores, that's where the best negative charge is located, but unfortunately they don't fit, so gravity has fewer charges (weak, non-covalent bonds?) to work against. hence, small proteins stay inside these pores for longer, larger proteins are denied this privilege and are forced to go around.

So I think #1 is correct.
It's been just about 3 years since I took the MCAT though.

congrats on rookie of the year.
 
mk8 hit the nail on the head. This type of electrophoresis works in the same manner as size exclusion chromatography. Large beads can't fit inside the beads, thus not getting trapped, and elute more quickyl. #1 (or A) is indeed correct.
 
so, that is only the case through beads. if you're running gel electrophoresis, don't the larger proteins move slower than smaller ones? the larger ones should be slower because they have more bands to separate.

what about TLC? how slow/fast it elutes depends on the polarity only, right? the size shouldn't matter since all things you are testing are liquids? in that case, if your solvent is polar, then a polar eluant will elute slower because it is being attracted to the solvent. if it's a nonpolar solvent, it will move faster because they are repelling?

and thanks for the compliment. i worked hard for rookie of the year and decided to take the MCAT in the offseason.
 
smaller proteins are attracted to the very-polar pores within the beads. larger proteins are also attracted, but have no chance of fitting within the pores, so they bypass them completely.

it helps to consider that what the proteins want is not necessarily to get through to the other end of the filtration mechanism as fast as possible, but instead, the proteins want to stay close to whatever is attracting them. in this case, the larger proteins WANT to get inside those pores, that's where the best negative charge is located, but unfortunately they don't fit, so gravity has fewer charges (weak, non-covalent bonds?) to work against. hence, small proteins stay inside these pores for longer, larger proteins are denied this privilege and are forced to go around.

So I think #1 is correct.
It's been just about 3 years since I took the MCAT though.

congrats on rookie of the year.

Can somebody tell us how we can differentiate between this and another gel electrophores/ lab techniques that separate proteins based on size. IE the larger proteins don't travel as far and thus has longer elution times?

Thanks
 
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