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I just wanted to poll everyone and get some insight as to what would be the top programs in Texas. Thanks.
To answer your question, I need to know what you are looking for in a residency. UTSW has the biggest name, but is not the best place for everyone.
Honestly, I'm not sure. Just good exposure to specimens. Good teaching. And most importantly good reputation so I can land a job afterwards.
From my travels, it seems like you can get all the above from nearly any place if you put the work in.
I guess the real question would be "What places will hold you back if you go there?"
Really? You think so? So many people on this forum have recommended to inquire programs about # of specimens seen per year. That's supposedly very important. Also, I've heard the reputation of program will help immensely in your future career. This is what I've heard from others. Being a med student, I, personally, know nothing for sure.
That's why I was wondering if anyone knew what the best place in TX would offer that.
Really? You think so? So many people on this forum have recommended to inquire programs about # of specimens seen per year. That's supposedly very important. Also, I've heard the reputation of program will help immensely in your future career. This is what I've heard from others. Being a med student, I, personally, know nothing for sure.
That's why I was wondering if anyone knew what the best place in TX would offer that.
As annoying as this question will be, can anyone place UTSW in a hierarchy of other programs. Would it be considered a top tier program or just missing the that top tier title or maybe just a solid 2nd tier-program? Would it be above the Cleveland Clinic?
It seems kind of unusual that Methodist has a affiliation w/ Cornell, which is 1/2 a country away.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this in the post yet. A few years ago Methodist split from Baylor. I interviewed at Baylor & remember liking the program quite a bit. I would've ranked it higher if it was in California. I'm not sure how the split as affected the program.
It seems kind of unusual that Methodist has a affiliation w/ Cornell, which is 1/2 a country away.
----- Antony
Cornell is weird though. They have a campus in Dubai or something.
That sounds great! You've caught my attention. How about career opportunities post training? Do you have any info regarding how past grads have fared with getting jobs? Do they get any; do they stay in the area?
Also what fellowships are avail? and do they take their own? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Thanks, again.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this in the post yet. A few years ago Methodist split from Baylor. I interviewed at Baylor & remember liking the program quite a bit. I would've ranked it higher if it was in California. I'm not sure how the split as affected the program.
Traber is the easiest person to scapegoat, but the tension between Methodist and Baylor has been evident for decades. Leaders at both institutions (including the Baylor Board of Trustees) hold their share of the blame. Still, with the benefit of hindsight, Traber was not the right man for the job. He was the first "outsider" to ever head BCM, and he clearly did not understand or appreciate the dynamics of the TMC.
Yeah, four straight years at The Taub would be a real bitch. Fortunately, there is also the DeBakey VA, Texas Children's, St. Luke's, and subspecialty rotations at Cullen. Oh, and MD Anderson, the Harris County Medical Examiner, and any away rotation you wish to set up. And then there's Methodist. Yes, Baylor residents still rotate at Methodist when they are so inclined.
No, I was not referring to Ben Taub specifically. I would not want to attend Baylor for four years. Houston traffic sucks.
Then you wouldn't want to be at Methodist or UT Houston either as they are all neighbors.
Cornell, the Promiscuous Hooker of Medicine? yeah odd to say the least.
it takes about 1 h and 45 min to get from league or texas city to the tmc.
I guess the real question would be "What places will hold you back if you go there?"
OK, what would be the bottom programs in Texas?
Cornell, the Promiscuous Hooker of Medicine? yeah odd to say the least.
OK, what would be the bottom programs in Texas?
Probably UTMB now.
And what would be the best?? in Tx?
That doesn't seem weird to me. Cleveland Clinic goes out of its way to attract rich Saudis to its hospitals. In fact, in the hotel connected to the hospital all information is given in English and Arabic.Cornell is weird though. They have a campus in Dubai or something.
That doesn't seem weird to me. Cleveland Clinic goes out of its way to attract rich Saudis to its hospitals. In fact, in the hotel connected to the hospital all information is given in English and Arabic.
No matter what anyone says about US healthcare, if you are ultra-rich, it is the best in the world. If you are poor, then it is basically "go fuhck yourself" healthcare.
...or at least, the best marketed.No matter what anyone says about US healthcare, if you are ultra-rich, it is the best in the world.
Well, I wrote a huge reply about Methodist in Houston, then stepped away from desk... came back, hit submit, and SDN had kicked me off so I lost it into the ether.
Anyway, I'm at Methodist in Houston and its fantastic. I'd be more than happy to answer any specific questions. I'll post something more substantive later.
DBH
Was curious how things have changed at methodist over the past few years. ie has the economy affected the program at all? Looks like they only took 4 pgy1 this year instead of the 5-6 they have taken in the past.
Around the TMC UTH/methodist seem to be the stronger program, at least to me that is. Anyone know the competitiveness of each one (step1).
Im planning on staying in houston and like both programs with each having strength/weakness (heard better AP at methodist and CP at UTH). Any info would be appreciated
I am currently a fellow at Methodist and did my residency at Methodist. I would, without a doubt, choose this program over again. DBH's previous posts have very nicely spelled out the pros/cons of the program and they are largely unchanged (and I'm fairly confident that he is still as pleased with the program today as he was then). The only significant change that I can think of is that we now pay for our own parking, although you can choose to have a Metro card instead for which the hospital foots the bill.
We did take only 4 this year and the reason was that we had a trainee do a year of fellowship last year (in his 3rd year), prior to finishing residency, and is now back this year to finish. He counts as one spot this year, thus only 4 spots remaining. That person is the 3rd I can think of that has taken a less conventional route in training (i.e. doing a fellowship before finishing residency). In all cases the reasoning was that it was beneficial to the trainee. Our program director is very flexible with these sorts of things, which is great.
Something that has been previously mentioned that I agree with is the fact that you should ask the tough questions about the finances of the program while you're interviewing. With the economy the way it is and GME funding having been cut by 60%, knowing that your program can afford to keep you for 4 years is important. Methodist is making some changes (i.e. we now pay our own parking), but they're financially stable.
As far as the programs in the Houston area go (and I include Galveston in this group), they're all great programs, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I have gotten to work with graduates and trainees from each program and have never met a single one that I didn't think would be a competent pathologist. I think it's worth saying that the UTMB program had some tough years after Hurricane Ike, but they're fully recovered (as per current trainees/faculty). I think the more important thing is that each program has a different "feel" to it, which affects the experience of the resident. I chose Methodist because it was the right fit for me and I fit well with the other residents. That won't be the case for all applicants, so if you want to stay in the Houston area, do your best to spend as much time as possible in the department (i.e. do a rotation, come to a lecture, etc) so you have an idea whether or not it's the right fit for you.
As far as Step I scores go, we have interviewed people over the last few years with scores that run the gamut (200 and below to well above 250). It hasn't seemed to have much bearing on who ultimately gets ranked. The PD and faculty tend to look at the whole person rather than the score. Also, the residents have a say in the ranking considerations, which is also a nice aspect of the program.
To the person with the bad interviewing experience: I'm sorry to hear that. If you would be willing to give some feedback that might help us make the interview day better, you could PM me and I'll pass it along. I hope you were ultimately pleased with your choice of residency and wish you luck in your training.
And with that, I may officially be longer winded than DBH. 😀
Good feedback. Since you are a current fellow, I'd be interested in your opinion on what the job market looks like for current / recently departed fellows from Methodist. Where are they going and are you guys happy with the connections you were able to make while there?