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is there anyone who can post the recent Navy GME 2+ match statistics? the only site i've found requires a password, which of course i don't have.
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They don't publish statistics. They publish results (i.e. who got what spots), but there's no way to know how many people applied for those ENT or Peds spots. You also can't tell who's done a GMO and who hasn't just by looking at the results.
So, basically, the only way to find out a given field is to ask people in that specialty about it.
ok, i thought a year or two ago i saw a table of applicant per spot ratio of each given specialty. i guess not.
does anyone have any information on IM or EM from the most recent GME 2+ Match?
ok, i thought a year or two ago i saw a table of applicant per spot ratio of each given specialty. i guess not.
does anyone have any information on IM or EM from the most recent GME 2+ Match?
thanks for the help
So by these numbers, the match rate for orthopedics is high, ~74%. That's not too much different from the civilian match rate. Whats the chance that someone will be pulled out of their residency for active duty?
Are there certain specialties that historically match better into PGY-2 than others based on critical care needs?
the way i understand it...this information doesn't give you the amount of applicants that applied nor the amount of applicants that are previous GMO or interns.
so ~74% match rate for ortho is probably much less
IM was essentially 100% for current GMOs and 66% for current interns.
this is the kind of list/data i was looking for.....does anyone have similar data from the most recent match?
another question: say for instance i wanted to do EM or IM, what internship would be best? (medicine, transitional, or others)
yes and no.
from my understanding, all applications were counted. Even if it was someone's 4th or 5th choice.
so 1 person could apply for IM, EM, GS, FM, and Urology and it would count as 5 applicants.
yes and no.
from my understanding, all applications were counted. Even if it was someone's 4th or 5th choice.
so 1 person could apply for IM, EM, GS, FM, and Urology and it would count as 5 applicants.
this is the kind of list/data i was looking for.....does anyone have similar data from the most recent match?
another question: say for instance i wanted to do EM or IM, what internship would be best? (medicine, transitional, or others)
So, would it be correct to read that 44 people applied for ortho positions in 2007 with 12 available spots (all getting filled). Would it be possible that some of these people also were competing for the 11 general surg spots?
Wait, wait, wait...back up the bus, are you telling me there were more than 600 applicants for ~200+ spots?!
Please tell me I'm missing something!
If you put EM and IM on your list you'll be put in IM and the military will claim you got what you wanted.
Typically almost all of the residency slots go to GMOs, with very few going to interns. Odds of matching to a residency as you're finishing up your GMO are reasonably good for most specialties.
So, what would you put the odds of a medical student getting a residency spot and going straight though in training at? From what you wrote it sounds as if nearly every medical student entering the Navy will do a GMO tour.
If I had to put a number on it - 2/3rds. Last year though it was about half.
1/2 or 2/3rds of students getting a residency spot right out of medical school sounds like decent odds to me. Thanks for the info. The way most people talk I thought it would be something like only 10% going straight through in training.
Sorry, it is 2/3 going on to do a GMO tour.
There are typically 250 graduating interns. There are about 225 R2 positions. Navy GME wants at least 90 going straight through. Last year it was 122 (which is about half of the graduating interns).
Just curious, what is the Navy going to do about insanely popular specialties like EM? About 20 people in my intern class want to do EM. I assume 18-19 or the 20 will do GMO tours. I also assume a lot of current GMOs want to do EM. How many people are going to have to do 2 or even 3 GMO tours before they get their residency of choice?
NavyFP, how do board scores play into the whole process? Would a good set of scores set you up better to train straight through? Also, what Navy specialities require a prelim year (and does this predispose to doing a GMO tour before continuing on)?
EM has not been insanely popular in recent past. Popular, yes, but not insanely so.
Good board scores help, but alone they're not sufficient to overcome the GMO advantage. Returning GMOs, by virtue of having a pulse, are simply eligible for many more points than interns. They have points for a completed internship, completion of Step 3, and of course for the GMO tour itself. The system is not set up to permit outstanding interns to get a position over a GMO.
The only way an intern will get the nod over a GMO is if (a) the service has mandated that a certain number of residency slots will go to interns, or (b) there's an extraordinary perfect storm of prior service, grades, board scores, & multiple peer-reviewed publications favoring the intern and a weak GMO.
(a) is happening, to a limited degree, in some specialties.
Looking at the 2007 matches I find it interesting that OB/GYN was almost 100% match as was Psych.
Heck even radiology, which I had heard was crazy competative was only about 2:1 applicant/acceptee ratio almost as good as IM.
So it does look like Navy offers a good variety of specialties and a decent shot at a program of one's choice, especially after a GMO tour. I know that is a deal breaker for some, putting aside their residency for 2 years, but if you don't mind the interruption the Navy dosn't look so bad.
Of course I may be way off. Anyone else pleasently surprised at the Navy matches data?
Good board scores help, but alone they're not sufficient to overcome the GMO advantage. Returning GMOs, by virtue of having a pulse, are simply eligible for many more points than interns. They have points for a completed internship, completion of Step 3, and of course for the GMO tour itself. The system is not set up to permit outstanding interns to get a position over a GMO.
The only way an intern will get the nod over a GMO is if (a) the service has mandated that a certain number of residency slots will go to interns, or (b) there's an extraordinary perfect storm of prior service, grades, board scores, & multiple peer-reviewed publications favoring the intern and a weak GMO.
(a) is happening, to a limited degree, in some specialties.
Thanks for the info. There wa a sheet floating around here a few months ago with the points breakdown that gets used. Does anyone have that?
Interesting. Any suggestions for how to find out in what specialties, and to what degree, (a) is happening? Do you know if its relatively stable from year-to-year? Thanks.