Former neuroscience student, primary suspect in Aurora shootings.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120720/us-colorado-shooting-suspect/

James Holmes withdrew from The University Of Colorado School Of Medicine one month prior to the shooting.

What was going through his head? I don't understand any of this.

EDITED: CNN confirms he wasn't a medical student, but a PhD candidate at the SOM.

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MCAT 36 like the BU Craigslist killer?
 
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Damn why are these White Kids so craaazy? Was it because an urm took his spot? Craiglist killer, now this guy... Med school is the breeding grounds for psychos
 
Damn why are these White Kids so craaazy? Was it because an urm took his spot? Craiglist killer, now this guy... Med school is the breeding grounds for psychos


MY GOD!!! STOP IT!!!
People are DEAD!!!! WTF is wrong with you?
 
MY GOD!!! STOP IT!!!
People are DEAD!!!! WTF is wrong with you?

I'm not making fun of the incident, I'm just saying... In my opinion we should hang all murderers on tv and I bet no one will ever pull that crap again.
 
Such a sad event...my best wishes go to all of those involved. I can't believe he was a med student though...it will be interesting to hear his story.
 
why is it taking so long to get a pic of this guy?

between the news/twitter/facebook...you figure someone would be posting up his picture.
 
I'm not making fun of the incident, I'm just saying... In my opinion we should hang all murderers on tv and I bet no one will ever pull that crap again.


I don't know what you were trying to say, dude but thats not what you typed down. Perhaps next time you should use that brillant pre-med brain to think before typing crap like that out? At this point I am not surprised that he was med student given the kind of psychotic junk people spew out on this forum.
 
I just read a 3 month old baby was shot.. Wow I hope get butt raped everyday for the rest of his pathetic life.
 
The more I read this story the more I'm going crazy. How can a human being just do that..
 
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From Reddit (user, integ3r):

Posting this here so more people will see it. Damn /r/worldnews rules. Selfpost here, will be updated
Denver resident here. Reddit, I'm doing my best to update this. Watch the live stream.
ABSTRACT
Shooting at the AMC Century Cinema: map, local police scanner. Bomb may have been confirmed. It certainly sounded like it. Apparently a bomb may have blown up a part of a theater at the Dark Knight Rises premiere. Although the news isn't corroborating this right now, it definitely sounded like it on the scanner. Actually, it was probably the tear gas canisters.
Theater 9 (epicenter), Theater 8 (some hit), Theater 16 (people heard tear gas canisters)
ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM
1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"
1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD
1:35: Shooter wearing green camp pants
1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs
1:40: 18 ambulances on scene
1:41: 9news story posted.
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.
1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.
1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health
1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.
1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license [redacted]. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.
1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.
1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.
1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.
1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.
2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"
2:06: On /r/denver.
Comment from ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.
2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.
2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater
2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.
2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance
2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.
2:26: Story on MSNBC here
At least 20 people were hurt following a shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., police said Friday. The incident occurred at a cinema showing the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," a police official told NBC News. One suspect was in custody, police said. It was unclear whether other suspects were involved. The injured were being transported to three local hospitals. A bomb squad was on site at the Century 16 movie theater, police added.
2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.
2:30: Water jugs being moved.
2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph
2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"
2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish
2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."
2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.
2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.
2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.
2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.
3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.
3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.
3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.
3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.
3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.
3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.
3:15: Comment from elcoolerick: I live in Aurora, CO, Thought I'd share. "We were 20 min into the movie when the fire alarms started going off. We thought it was a prank. Then emergency intercom came on say there was a situation and we need to evacuate immediately. Next thing we know there was a police officer was outside the emergency exit with a shotgun yelling at us to run as far away from the theater as possible. We run out. There were people covered with blood every where with what looked like bullet wounds. Kids were crying . It was a terrible scene. Talked to some people, they are saying a man came into one of the theaters threw an explosive device and started shooting." -from a guy that was there.
More info from friends. "I was in the theatre, 9 people are dead shooting started inside the theatre and went to the back of the theatre. 3 people got show few rows infront of me and cops are up there with the SWAT with automatics and everything.It was scary. The first shots that were fired everyone stayed calm because they thought it was stupid kids with bottle caps. 2nd wave was fired the *****s ran out the theatre and thats when hell broke loose. Everyone was vulnerabe even as they left through the emergency exits" -KC Cannady
second part doesn't sound intelligent, but posted for historical reasons
3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.
3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.
3:48: Another /r/denver post from WaterSnake: here
3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.
3:58: damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents.
4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.
4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"
4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.
4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.
 
Being reported that he is a PhD student, not a medical student, at the SOM.

Edit: Wonder if there will be a psychiatric diagnosis in this case? Doesn't seem likely that he is *just* a psychopath...
 
Yeah, I've heard from two different sources that he was either a PhD student (Neuroscience) or a Medical student who was in the process of withdrawing... either way, this is horrible.:(
 
Being reported that he is a PhD student, not a medical student, at the SOM.

Edit: Wonder if there will be a psychiatric diagnosis in this case? Doesn't seem likely that he is *just* a psychopath...

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Official-Shooting-suspect-was-former-med-student-3721906.php

according to sfgate, former medical student*

edit: CNN states James Holmes was a PhD student in Neuroscience at University of Colorado, SOM (thanks reptar and mightysmiter)

 
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if he was a med student, I wonder what he talked about in his personal statement. I mean this guy is obviously a psychopath. I'm not familiar with interacting with people who have mental disorders, but you're telling me he went through the whole application process, including interviews, and no one thought he was a little off?
 
CNN confirms that he was a PhD candidate for Neuroscience... not med student
 
NOT a med student, he was a neuroscience PhD candidate at CU who withdrew in June. Just to clear up the facts. Prayers for all those victimized by the shooting. :(
 
People like this don't deserve to rot in jail for the rest of their life nor a coffin to hold his body.

Bullet to the head and then his body left in the street.

Despicable.

Prayers go out to all those who lost loved ones and to all those who are still in the hospital.
 
People like this don't deserve to rot in jail for the rest of their life nor a coffin to hold his body.

Bullet to the head and then his body left in the street.

Despicable.

Prayers go out to all those who lost loved ones and to all those who are still in the hospital.


Amen, Publicly shoot the guy. He's the epitome of all evil in this world. Who shoots a little baby? WTF.. The guy looks like a psycho...
 
I wish he would come to orlando and be dropped in Pine Hills. He wouldn't survive the night..
 
Amen, Publicly shoot the guy. He's the epitome of all evil in this world. Who shoots a little baby? WTF.. The guy looks like a psycho...

People who do things like this don't deserve to be treated humanely.

Why allow him to die painlessly via lethal injection after he caused so many others to die painfully?
 
People who do things like this don't deserve to be treated humanely.

Why allow him to die painlessly via lethal injection after he caused so many others to die painfully?

I agree, I am a firm believer of an eye for an eye.
 

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Well, if he wasn't a med student, all my jokes about BU no longer having a lock on the serial-killing med student population fly out the window...

On a more serious note, what an awful thing to happen, it's just a shocking shocking crime. I will never understand what causes someone to kill indiscriminately -- it's like taking revenge against the universe for the world not treating you kindly enough, I don't get it.

I am not and have never been a believer in an eye for an eye -- I don't think that's justice, that's revenge, and revenge isn't good for civil society.
 
Anyone think religion had anything to do with this? You think he will say he heard voices?
 
Well, if he wasn't a med student, all my jokes about BU no longer having a lock on the serial-killing med student population fly out the window...

On a more serious note, what an awful thing to happen, it's just a shocking shocking crime. I will never understand what causes someone to kill indiscriminately -- it's like taking revenge against the universe for the world not treating you kindly enough, I don't get it.

I am not and have never been a believer in an eye for an eye -- I don't think that's justice, that's revenge, and revenge isn't good for civil society.

So, If someone were to kill your whole family, you would be ok with him just going to jail? Your tax money will be paying for his meals..
 
"Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in." video from 9news

GRAPHIC: pictures from a fellow redditor at the hospital who was shot. Self posted: http://www.reddit.com/tb/wvbbk
 
On a sidenote: Anyone else scared there could be a copycat in the next few days?
 
Yes, I would, actually. I've talked it over with my brother and my parents, and none of us support the death penalty except in extraordinary cases.

Such extraordinary cases would be ones where the risk/cost to society of the criminal living would be higher than staying in jail. For instance, although it was obviously an extrajudicial killing, it's better for bin Laden to have been killed than captured given the difficulties of prosecuting and jailing him and the heightened risk of terrorism on U.S. soil. But in almost all cases, it's more expensive - costlier to society - to execute someone than to jail them.

Add in the number of people who get exonerated on death row and the inherent moral dilemma of killing someone in cold blood, and I don't generally support the death penalty.
 
"Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in." video from 9news

GRAPHIC: pictures from a fellow redditor at the hospital who was shot. Self posted: http://www.reddit.com/tb/wvbbk

This makes sense...emergency doors only open from the inside...right? Meaning someone else had to be involved
 
Forget the death penalty, put the shooter face to face with the family members. I bet you he would not be alive..
 
My friend's dad was on call this past night. He's spent the past couple hours in the OR.
 
I agree, I am a firm believer of an eye for an eye.

I don't believe in that nonsense. I believe in two eyes for an eye. Apparently there was a post online made yesterday of some guy claiming that he would shoot people at the midnight premier of TDKR. Kind of freaky. And who the hell brings a 3 month old to a movie. That's just irresponsible.
 
I agree, I am a firm believer of an eye for an eye.
an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind...

before anyone attacks me, I am not saying we should forgive him, what he did is pretty henious, I'm just saying that the "eye for an eye" philosophy is a pretty archaic way of dispatching justice. Especially if we aren't aware of the details (i.e. is he mentally disturbed?)
 
an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind...

I agree, but there has to be a threshold.

How about an eye for 10 eyes? Can you trust someone like that in society?
 
"This guy is disgusting, he killed people. Let's kill him!"

Seeing many variations of this on my Fb newsfeed today...the irony is strong.

Also, the part about the three month old baby getting shot is sad, but my initial reaction was: why on earth was there a three month old baby at a Dark Knight midnight screening??
 
the things grad school can do to people....

It is unfortunate that this individual happened to be associated with neuroscience/academia. People begin to jump to conclusions like the one above. For an individual to kill so many innocent people in this heartless manner, it is likely due to a variety of contributing factors over time and not primarily associated with one particular reason: such as his career aspirations.
 
Also, the part about the three month old baby getting shot is sad, but my initial reaction was: why on earth was there a three month old baby at a Dark Knight midnight screening??

My initial thoughts exactly.
 
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