By 2017 all carib schools will close??

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I am reading that by 2017 there will be 1-1 ratio between doctors and residency slots so all Carib schools that are dependent on US money will die or slow/sudden death, as there should not be a reason for federal loan(FAFSA) to support education there. Any one opposing this theme here on SDN?
 
I am just quoting below. Bottomline is when the ratio between residency slots and US medical graduate is 1:1 by 2017, there is no way these schools will be viable. It is just common sense to get degree from there if it one can not practice.

Some Highlights: (Source: AMA, December 5, 2012—Vol 308, No. 21)

"A forecasted physician short- age has led to expansion of enrollment in existing US medi- cal schools and establishment of new ones (both allopathic and osteopathic), with 19 230 first-year students enrolled in 2011; the number of students graduating from US medi- cal schools is therefore increasing quickly (projected to reach 26 709 enrolled per year by 2016-2017, a 37% increase rela- tive to 2002-2003).4 However, the number of training posi- tions in US residency programs has not similarly expanded and, indeed, may contract as a consequence of decreases in graduate medical education funding. In 2011 there were 26 386 postgraduate year 1 positions in Accreditation Coun- cil for Graduate Medical Education–accredited programs (growth rate from 2001-2010, 0.883% per year)"

"The expected changes in the number of available train- ing positions in the United States may be of particular con- cern to the burgeoning number of US citizens who attend medical school abroad (increased from 769 in 1992 to 2772 in 2006, more than 50% of whom are in Caribbean medical schools).8 These students may now find reentry into the United States to be especially difficult, particularly since they will be competing with a markedly increasing number of graduating medical students not only in the United States but also worldwide; there are currently more than 2300 medi- cal schools in the world, and nearly 800 of them have opened since the mid-1990s."

"The rapidly increasing number of medical school gradu- ates coupled with a constrained graduate medical educa- tion system is likely to have a substantial effect on the num- ber of IMG recruits to US programs. These trends threaten to reduce the diversity of the physician community and could meaningfully affect primary care delivery in the United States and even health care quality abroad.10 Despite the proven value of IMGs to the US health care system, coming to America is likely to prove increasingly challenging for fu- ture IMGs."
 
Not going to happen. First, most of the people applying to offshore schools will still be rejected by the newly opening medical schools because these are the applicants who tend to have lopsided resumes (high GPA, low MCAT vice versa). Thus, they will still apply to the Caribbean schools. As long as applications are sent in, the Caribbean schools will continue to accept and enroll students.

What happens 4 years later when these students graduate? Well the majority will apply to mid-low tier residencies, typically in primary care because the highly competitive specialties will be eaten up by the US graduates. The new US MDs will simply add to this competition for highly desired residencies. Even with the increased pool of US MDs, there will still be a need for primary care physicians. This is the reason that Caribbean schools were founded, and it will still hold true in the future. In fact, there is expected to be an even greater need for PCPs due to Obamacare reducing physician reimbursements.

Bottom line is, the Caribbean schools won't be closing by 2017.
 
Not going to happen. First, most of the people applying to offshore schools will still be rejected by the newly opening medical schools because these are the applicants who tend to have lopsided resumes (high GPA, low MCAT vice versa). Thus, they will still apply to the Caribbean schools. As long as applications are sent in, the Caribbean schools will continue to accept and enroll students.

What happens 4 years later when these students graduate? Well the majority will apply to mid-low tier residencies, typically in primary care because the highly competitive specialties will be eaten up by the US graduates. The new US MDs will simply add to this competition for highly desired residencies. Even with the increased pool of US MDs, there will still be a need for primary care physicians. This is the reason that Caribbean schools were founded, and it will still hold true in the future. In fact, there is expected to be an even greater need for PCPs due to Obamacare reducing physician reimbursements.

Bottom line is, the Caribbean schools won't be closing by 2017.

Where is the "Like" button?
 
I very much doubt the Caribbean schools will be closing in 2017, but I think there will be less of a need for them due to the fact that more schools (MD and DO) are opening in the US. There will always be some applicants who couldn't make it into a US school, but the applicant pool for Caribbean schools will most likely be reduced. And for those who graduate from Caribbean schools, by then the competition for residency spots will be much stiffer.
 
Depends on the Caribbean medical school you go to.

St. George's University, for example, has a program with New York City called "CityDocs" where the New York Hospitals are paying for the tuition of US students willing to go overseas to become a physician. The school also has close-ties with a good number of hospitals that reserve spots for their grads.

Ross University, AUC, Saba, and AUA are also schools with very good rapport with the US.

Remember that at the end of the day, when you have a sick patient with no access to medical care OR flooded emergency rooms due to the baby boomers population, the US government will do as much as they can to increase residency spots in order to satisfy demand. As history has proven, Caribbean medical school grads fall into that demand. Like it or not, these schools are going no where and their grads will continue to provide care.
 
Not going to happen. First, most of the people applying to offshore schools will still be rejected by the newly opening medical schools because these are the applicants who tend to have lopsided resumes (high GPA, low MCAT vice versa). Thus, they will still apply to the Caribbean schools. As long as applications are sent in, the Caribbean schools will continue to accept and enroll students.

What happens 4 years later when these students graduate? Well the majority will apply to mid-low tier residencies, typically in primary care because the highly competitive specialties will be eaten up by the US graduates. The new US MDs will simply add to this competition for highly desired residencies. Even with the increased pool of US MDs, there will still be a need for primary care physicians. This is the reason that Caribbean schools were founded, and it will still hold true in the future. In fact, there is expected to be an even greater need for PCPs due to Obamacare reducing physician reimbursements.

Bottom line is, the Caribbean schools won't be closing by 2017.

Perhaps you aren't understanding the point. There will be enough US grads to fill all residency positions. The need for foreign grads only exists because there are more residency positions than US grads. This will no longer be the case. Your tangent on the need for PCPs is irrelevant.
 
Perhaps you aren't understanding the point. There will be enough US grads to fill all residency positions. The need for foreign grads only exists because there are more residency positions than US grads. This will no longer be the case. Your tangent on the need for PCPs is irrelevant.

Then allow me to put it in a way you might understand. The new US MDs graduating by 2017 won't be applying to residencies in the same way Caribbean graduates are. You know what they will be applying for? The same residencies that MDs from other US schools apply for, because believe it or not, US graduates have a sense of entitlement that offshore graduates don't have. What ends up happening is that hundreds of US graduates end up unmatched, because many of them are deluded into thinking that they deserve highly competitive specialties. In fact, last year close to 1000 US graduates were unmatched.

My point about PCPs which you clearly didn't comprehend is that primary care is a highly undervalued field in medicine. US graduates don't want these positions because they are low-paying and expected to pay less in the future. The unfortunate reality is that there is a pervasive mentality in US medical schools that only idiots go into primary care. You seem to think that in a couple of years US graduates will undergo a paradigm shift in applying to primary care residencies. Wrong. More medical students does not equate to making a low-paying, less respected field more desirable.
 
Then allow me to put it in a way you might understand. The new US MDs graduating by 2017 won't be applying to residencies in the same way Caribbean graduates are. You know what they will be applying for? The same residencies that MDs from other US schools apply for, because believe it or not, US graduates have a sense of entitlement that offshore graduates don't have. What ends up happening is that hundreds of US graduates end up unmatched, because many of them are deluded into thinking that they deserve highly competitive specialties. In fact, last year close to 1000 US graduates were unmatched.

My point about PCPs which you clearly didn't comprehend is that primary care is a highly undervalued field in medicine. US graduates don't want these positions because they are low-paying and expected to pay less in the future. The unfortunate reality is that there is a pervasive mentality in US medical schools that only idiots go into primary care. You seem to think that in a couple of years US graduates will undergo a paradigm shift in applying to primary care residencies. Wrong. More medical students does not equate to making a low-paying, less respected field more desirable.

You think medical students are ******s? The increase in number of med students is the very answer to the question you're posing. It's not like a bunch of people with 190s on their USMLE are applying to ortho. The ONLY reason there are spots for IMGs/FMGs is because there are simply many more residency spots available than there are US grads, not because US grads aren't going into primary care. Increasing the number of US grads will be a de facto solution to the problem, by definition.

The argument about specialty choice you're making only applies to pre-meds. By the time med students are applying to residency, they know very well whether they will be "forced" into FM based on the very black-and-white numbers on their applications. And trust me, people will gladly take that open FM spot rather than foolishly apply to a residency far beyond their competitiveness and end up losing their career while simultaneously being saddled with 300k in debt.
 
I think the truth is somewhere in between the 2 different things ppl are contending on this thread.
I think some of the weaker Caribbean schools could fold, but that would be probably after a few years of their graduates not matching very well...which would be sad for those people.
Also, the article quoted above might be referred to all/total number of students MD and DO who will be graduating. I think there are unanswered questions, such as whether certain MD/allopathic residencies will take for example a DO with a possibly lower USMLE score over perhaps a St George grad who is a US citizen with maybe higher USMLE score and/or better recommendation letters, or published research projects, etc.

Also, someone on here said the gov't when they see medical care not being provided, will expand residency spots. I think you cannot count on that. An equally likely scenario is that they might try to train more PA's and/or NP's to take up the slack/provide primary care. I'm not saying I agree that is the right or only thing to do, only that the gov't might see it is cheaper for them potentially, and just do it.

I would definitely have a large amount of caution in going to a foreign school the next few years, if you are from the US. Also given expanding med school slots, it should give you a better chance to get in some US school - and you only need 1 to let you in. If you still can't get in after 2-3 tries at a US school, then consider if you are willing and financially able to take a risk on Caribbean med school versus do something else that is more "safe" like another health profession or career.

I think the hardest hit would be/will be actual non US citizen foreign medical grads. I would see them as the 1st ones to have their heads on the chopping block, save perhaps a Caribbean grad with failed USMLE steps and/or bad interview skills.
 
Even with the increased pool of US MDs, there will still be a need for primary care physicians. This is the reason that Caribbean schools were founded, and it will still hold true in the future.

Wrong, the Caribbean schools were founded because of for-profit institutions saw an opportunity to make money hand over fist. For example, Ross University/AUC is owned by DeVry. There was no altruistic motive for opening these schools but a money-making venture designed to exploit kids who should have pursued another career instead.

In the very near future (2016/2017), the number of available residency spots for any IMG will be curtailed significantly as the number of US MD and US DO graduates equal the number of residency spots. That means students who head overseas will have an even harder time landing even less competitive spots.

The Caribbean schools will never close because they can't match students; they already don't care about that. These schools aren't about providing an education. They are about making money for shareholders and as long as students are willing to roll that die, these schools will remain open.
 
Hypothetically, if you already graduated from a Carribean school and they closed after you graduated, would that affect your ability to get a residency and/or toget licensed and practice in the future? Thanks.
 
Hypothetically, if you already graduated from a Carribean school and they closed after you graduated, would that affect your ability to get a residency and/or toget licensed and practice in the future? Thanks.

I don't think so. As long as you graduated before the school closed and the school was licensed and all, this shouldn't really affect your chance of residency except for personal bias. I mean if a program director knew that your school closed, it might just look poorly on you. Either way, if I was applying to caribbean schools, I wouldn't apply to any schools that was at risk of closing any time soon.
 
I will say this...

I am making efforts to ensure that documents pertaining to my degree are preserved in perpetuity. The FSMB is a good place to start.

-Skip
Ross University, 2005 Graduate
 
a year or two ago it was 2015 now it's 2017...

Those who have been following my posts will probably recognize this as one of the most positive things I've ever said about going to school in the Caribbean and matching into residency. Yes times will get slightly rougher but big schools like SGU, ROSS, AUC heck maybe even SABA aren't going anywhere. ROSS and AUC are both owned by Devry a US company with lots and lots of money and power. I actually didn't know that AUC is now owned by Devry but it is.. and SGU is just plain huge, the owner has connections with the US government. Those three schools will definitely give you a decent shot at US residencies and becoming a doctor, but you will have to put in a lot of work and make sacrifices, and chances are at one point or another you'll feel like you deserve better, just because you've put in so much hard work to do what you've always wanted.

So good luck it's a hard road ahead of you, not everyone can make it but if you do you'll be great.
 
Wrong, the Caribbean schools were founded because of for-profit institutions saw an opportunity to make money hand over fist. For example, Ross University/AUC is owned by DeVry. There was no altruistic motive for opening these schools but a money-making venture designed to exploit kids who should have pursued another career instead.

In the very near future (2016/2017), the number of available residency spots for any IMG will be curtailed significantly as the number of US MD and US DO graduates equal the number of residency spots. That means students who head overseas will have an even harder time landing even less competitive spots.

The Caribbean schools will never close because they can't match students; they already don't care about that. These schools aren't about providing an education. They are about making money for shareholders and as long as students are willing to roll that die, these schools will remain open.

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The answer to your question is no. Kids will always shell out money to have a chance at becoming a doc, no matter how slim the chances. And Caribb schools will always take their money, just as they always have.
 
There are always going to be some kids at Carib schools that score a 250 + on their USMLE and match into a competetive specialty, no matter how crappy the school is. And then there will always be students that do poorly and don't match.

Carib schools will not close.
 
I think we will have to wait until 2015 or 2017 to see how the situation unfolds.
 
Quantifying the Contribution of Caribbean-Educated Physicians to the Primary Care Workforce in the United States

Marta van Zanten, PhD, John R. Boulet, PhD

Academic Medicine. 2013;88(2):276-281.

Abstract

Purpose There is a projected shortage of primary care physicians in the United States, and providers other than U.S medical graduates may be needed to fill the gap. The authors conducted this study to quantify the contribution that Caribbean-educated physicians make to the U.S. primary care workforce

Method Using May 2011 American Medical Association Physician Masterfile and Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates data, the authors identified physicians whose Masterfile records indicated that they provided direct patient care. They classified these physicians according to the type of medical school from which they graduated: graduates of Caribbean medical schools (C-IMGs), graduates of other international medical schools (non-C-IMGs), graduates of U.S. MD-granting medical schools (USMGs), and graduates of U.S. DO-granting medical schools (DOs). They then calculated the frequencies and percentages of self-designated primary care specialties for each physician classification

Results There were 684,469 physicians in direct patient care categories for whom data were available concerning medical school and self-designated specialty. About one-quarter of these physicians were graduates of international medical schools (C-IMGs: 3.0%, n = 20,333; non-C-IMGs: 20.4%, n = 139,415), and approximately three-quarters were U.S. medical school graduates (USMGs: 70.3%, n = 481,061; DOs: 6.4%, n = 43,660). Overall, C-IMGs had the highest proportion of physicians practicing in primary care specialties (56.7%) compared with non-C-IMGs (42.3%), USMGs (32.9%), and DOs (54.0%)

Conclusions More than half of Caribbean-educated physicians involved in direct patient care are practicing in primary care specialties, thereby making an important contribution to the U.S. primary care workforce.

SOURCE:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/778661
 
Interesting report. Hope it continues to be a reality for all the US cIMGs
 
I would imagine as long as the USLME is still required then carrib grads that do well on the Step 1 and 2 will still be able to match into something

US grads have always had an edge for US residencies, scores notwithstanding. As the enrollment in US schools approaches the number of residency slots, suddenly the spots traditionally going to offshore grads will start going to US grads. This won't kill off shore schools immediately, but difficulty placing a larger and larger percentage of grads each year will start taking a bite out of the number of applicants. Word filters down to college students quickly when their friend/cousin is in a graduating class at Ross and eg only 20% of his classmates are getting residencies, etc. It's the start of a business death spiral. The lesser known offshore schools will go first, but if these programs are unable to "guaranty" residencies to even their top grads it's only a matter of time before word gets out.
 
I've already applied to US schools this cycle with no luck and will reapply next cycle. If I still do not get accepted in the US, I will start fall of 2014 at a big 3. Do you guys think it is still okay to attend one of the big 3 starting fall of 2014? I'm really starting to worry about matching in 2018.
 
I've already applied to US schools this cycle with no luck and will reapply next cycle. If I still do not get accepted in the US, I will start fall of 2014 at a big 3. Do you guys think it is still okay to attend one of the big 3 starting fall of 2014? I'm really starting to worry about matching in 2018.

Sounds incredibly risky.
 
I've already applied to US schools this cycle with no luck and will reapply next cycle. If I still do not get accepted in the US, I will start fall of 2014 at a big 3. Do you guys think it is still okay to attend one of the big 3 starting fall of 2014? I'm really starting to worry about matching in 2018.
You should probably go the DO route first then as a last resort the big 3
 
I am reading that by 2017 there will be 1-1 ratio between doctors and residency slots so all Carib schools that are dependent on US money will die or slow/sudden death, as there should not be a reason for federal loan(FAFSA) to support education there. Any one opposing this theme here on SDN?
It actually states by 2017 if everything goes according to plan the number of enrolled students will be a 1 to 1 ratio. Which means the issues will really start in 2021 if the residency number doesn't increase so we are talking about 8 yrs from now.
 
It actually states by 2017 if everything goes according to plan the number of enrolled students will be a 1 to 1 ratio. Which means the issues will really start in 2021 if the residency number doesn't increase so we are talking about 8 yrs from now.

The first line of the JAMA Traverso article is "By 2015, the number of graduates from US medical schools is anticipated to surpass the number of positions in residency programs." (emphasis mine)

Which article are you quoting?
 
You should probably go the DO route first then as a last resort the big 3

Thanks for your response. I should have clarified, I already applied to DO schools this cycle with no success.
 
The first line of the JAMA Traverso article is "By 2015, the number of graduates from US medical schools is anticipated to surpass the number of positions in residency programs." (emphasis mine)

Which article are you quoting?
If you read the article closely it actually contradicts itself. It stats by 2011 there will be 19230 first yr enrolled students way below the residency amount of over 26000 positions available today. Then it goes on to say by 2016-2017 there will be a projected first yr enrollment of 26709 students which would bring that graduating class to 2020-2021 which is in line to match current residency positions....And that is if everything falls into place. And with this economy and the non projected increase in residency positions many new US MD schools are delaying opening up when they had projected. They don't want many US grad students graduating with a chance of not getting into residency. Also residency number automatically slightly increase each yr.

Combined first-year M.D. and D.O. enrollment at current schools is
projected to reach 26,709 by 2016–2017, an increase of 37% compared to
2002–2003. I think the 6000 plus DO Students need to start worrying a bit also https://www.aamc.org/download/281126/data/enrollment2012.pdf

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1475200
 
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Squeeze Looms for Doctors
More Medical Students Are In the Pipeline, but Too Few Residencies Await Them

By MELINDA BECK

U.S. medical schools are expanding to meet an expected demand for more doctors spurred by the federal health law. With 12 new schools opening and existing ones growing, enrollment is on track to produce 5,000 more graduates a year by 2019.

But medical educators are cautioning that those efforts won't do anything to alleviate a doctor shortage unless the number of medical residency positions rises as well. The number of federally funded residencies has been frozen since 1997.

Marcos Uribe of Bell, Calif., is among those seeking a medical residency in the annual 'match' with teaching hospitals on Friday. Like many who hope to practice in the U.S., Dr. Uribe earned his medical degree abroad.

Residencies are the three to seven years of on-the-job training in the U.S. that medical-school graduates must complete before they can practice independently in this country. Medicare funds most of the residencies, paying $9.5 billion a year to subsidize 94,000 positions at teaching hospitals. Medicaid and other sources such as hospitals fund about 10,000 more.

Medicare-funded spots were frozen under the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, and numerous bills to lift the cap have stagnated in Congress amid budget-cutting concerns, including recent moves to reduce Medicare funding for doctor training.

Meantime, some opponents of increased funding argue it would be better instead to find ways to channel more U.S. medical students away from specialty fields and into primary-care medicine in rural areas, where doctors often are lacking and foreign-born physicians are filling the void.

This week, Reps. Allyson Schwartz (D., Pa.) and Aaron Schock (R., Ill.) plan to reintroduce a bill seeking 15,000 more U.S.-funded residencies over the next five years, at a cost of about $1 billion a year—a measure likely to face an uphill climb. "This has to be part of the conversation," Ms. Schwartz said.

The American Medical Association and other physician groups arguing for the increase say health-care needs have changed markedly since 1997. For one thing, the U.S. population has grown by 50 million people.

The population also is aging: Every eight seconds, another Baby Boomer turns 65, an age when health problems typically increase. And starting next year, 30 million more Americans will have access to health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

All told, the Association of American Medical Colleges predicts the U.S. will face a shortage of 62,900 doctors by 2015 and as many as 140,000 by 2025.

"We thought we were being responsible by having our medical schools expand to address the doctor shortage, but the federal government has to do its share, too," said Atul Grover, the chief public policy officer of the medical-college group.

As of now, there are more residency openings than doctors graduating from U.S. medical schools. The gap has been filled by graduates of U.S. osteopathic schools (which stress holistic and preventive medicine) and foreign medical schools, including doctors hoping to immigrate to the U.S. and Americans who attend medical programs abroad.

At the current expansion rate, graduates from U.S. medical and osteopathic schools alone will exceed the number of expected residencies by the end of the decade, the Association of American Medical Colleges predicts.

Residency applicants from foreign schools are likely to be squeezed out, medical educators say, which could make it more difficult to fill the nation's growing needs in primary care, which includes internal medicine, family medicine and pediatrics.

Graduates of foreign medical schools now make up more than 25% of all U.S. practicing physicians—and about half of primary-care doctors—because U.S. graduates tend to prefer more lucrative specialties. Foreign doctors also make up a disproportionate share of those in rural communities, in part because such work can qualify them for certain visa waivers.

"If we don't add more residencies, we are just replacing the international graduates with U.S. graduates, not creating any more doctors," said Patrick Dowling, the chairman of family medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Noting that 38% of Californians are Hispanic, but only 5% of its physicians are, Dr. Dowling co-founded a UCLA program to help Spanish-speaking immigrants who had been doctors back home qualify for U.S. residencies. One participant, Marcos Uribe, is among those hoping for a residency in the annual residency "match" on Friday. The 31-year-old earned his medical degree in Mexico, before moving to the Los Angeles area in 2007.

Dr. Uribe laid bricks and poured concrete by day while studying for the required U.S. licensing exams at night. Now he hopes to land a residency in family medicine in Riverside, Calif., where Spanish-speaking doctors are in short supply.

"It's very competitive—there are people from all over the world trying to be doctors here," Dr. Uribe said.

How severe the need is for more doctors is a matter of debate. Skeptics say doctors should be able to care for many more patients in the future with more efficient group practices, greater reliance on physician assistants and nurse practitioners, and "telemedicine" done via the phone and online.

But even today, 1 in 5 Americans lives in areas without adequate access to primary care, government reports say.

The Affordable Care Act calls for creating 600 additional primary-care residencies in community health centers, outside of Medicare's funding for teaching hospitals. The first 44 such residents started training in 2011. But the funding is guaranteed only through 2015.
 
2013 NRMP Match, from their website and you can see the official letter

•Notable gains in Match results for U.S. citizen IMGs and foreign-national IMGs, whose match rates rose by four and seven percentage points respectively
 
Straight from NRMP:

"Notable gains in Match results for U.S. citizen IMGs and foreign-national IMGs, whose match rates rose by four and seven percentage points respectively

The number of positions rose by almost 2,400 to an all-time high of 29,171"
 
I agree with a previous poster - if you are an FMG, have your records stored by Federation of State Medical Boards.
 
they wont close, but there will be no point going to the carribean medical schools. Bc the american residency positions will be all filled by american medical students. They are creating the exact number of american medical school positions to evquivicate the residency positions.......................sooo essentially dont invest in offshore medical schools.
 
I am reading that by 2017 there will be 1-1 ratio between doctors and residency slots so all Carib schools that are dependent on US money will die or slow/sudden death, as there should not be a reason for federal loan(FAFSA) to support education there. Any one opposing this theme here on SDN?
Ur right bro
 
There is not now nor will there ever be a 1:1 ratio of U.S. graduates to spots. It disturbs me that many people who either now or will someday call themselves "doctor" cannot more deeply infer this, which is a large part of becoming a beyond marginal thinker and clinician.

-Skip
 
There is not now nor will there ever be a 1:1 ratio of U.S. graduates to spots. It disturbs me that many people who either now or will someday call themselves "doctor" cannot more deeply infer this, which is a large part of becoming a beyond marginal thinker and clinician.

-Skip
Dude, it doesnt have to be exact 1:1, but the point is, You *****, The ratio is narrowing. They are making more US medical schools now more than ever. I have done my research, before i went to my carribean medical school. I did very proper researhc on the matter, and I found anything after 2018 graduation date, your odds of getting residency will shrink, and pejoratively from that point. unless they pass that bill in congress about opening new residency positions, which they will probably not. .....ur dumb, u sound partial and butt hurt about something
 
Dude, it doesnt have to be exact 1:1, but the point is, You *****, The ratio is narrowing. They are making more US medical schools now more than ever. I have done my research, before i went to my carribean medical school. I did very proper researhc on the matter, and I found anything after 2018 graduation date, your odds of getting residency will shrink, and pejoratively from that point. unless they pass that bill in congress about opening new residency positions, which they will probably not. .....ur dumb, u sound partial and butt hurt about something

Personal attacks like this are against the TOS for SDN. Keeping up like this will risk termination.
 
I am reading that by 2017 there will be 1-1 ratio between doctors and residency slots so all Carib schools that are dependent on US money will die or slow/sudden death, as there should not be a reason for federal loan(FAFSA) to support education there. Any one opposing this theme here on SDN?
Ur right bro

Dude, it doesnt have to be exact 1:1, but the point is, You *****, The ratio is narrowing. They are making more US medical schools now more than ever. I have done my research, before i went to my carribean medical school. I did very proper researhc on the matter, and I found anything after 2018 graduation date, your odds of getting residency will shrink, and pejoratively from that point. unless they pass that bill in congress about opening new residency positions, which they will probably not. .....ur dumb, u sound partial and butt hurt about something

Please make up your mind. 🙂

Let me help you, seeing as you clearly have not done enough homework: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/why-is-the-caribbean-a-bad-decision.1029336/#post-14747416

(For the record, I'm not the one here who looks like a "butt hurt *****" by the way. Likewise, slow down and learn to express yourself more effectively. You are trying to use some big words, and I don't think you know what they mean.)

-Skip
 
Dude, it doesnt have to be exact 1:1, but the point is, You *****, The ratio is narrowing. They are making more US medical schools now more than ever. I have done my research, before i went to my carribean medical school. I did very proper researhc on the matter, and I found anything after 2018 graduation date, your odds of getting residency will shrink, and pejoratively from that point. unless they pass that bill in congress about opening new residency positions, which they will probably not. .....ur dumb, u sound partial and butt hurt about something
Must be a DO Student,
 
I'm not entirely sure how true this is but I was told by 2022-2023 is when it starts to get really dangerous to attempt to be a recent Carib graduate trying to match into a residency. Does anyone know if someone graduates from the Caribbean by 2020 if they will face significantly more struggle matching than now? I've seen at SGU and Ross that the matching rate has actually increased annually over the past 5 or so years while a few years ago, I was heard this was supposed to slow down significantly.
 
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