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Hello all,

Because of the state that I was born in and my ethnicity (CA, Asian-American), I feel like I am not competitive enough to apply as a California resident for medical school, both in California, and everywhere else. Do you guys know of any states in particular that I could move to, and become a new state resident of? I have (almost) given up on this whole application process and I am seriously considering moving out of California and making a living at a different state in the US where I can live for 2(?) years and earn my residency? I heard Nebraska and Texas have VERY favorable in-state admissions rate. Please input on your thoughts/opinion and info on this matter, thanks!

Dissatisfied in California
 
Texas is the only state worth moving to 😛
 
shipseki said:
Hello all,

Because of the state that I was born in and my ethnicity (CA, Asian-American), I feel like I am not competitive enough to apply as a California resident for medical school, both in California, and everywhere else. Do you guys know of any states in particular that I could move to, and become a new state resident of? I have (almost) given up on this whole application process and I am seriously considering moving out of California and making a living at a different state in the US where I can live for 2(?) years and earn my residency? I heard Nebraska and Texas have VERY favorable in-state admissions rate. Please input on your thoughts/opinion and info on this matter, thanks!

Dissatisfied in California
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What is your Stat and ECs - how many schools did you apply to, and how many II?

Nebraska is not an easy school to get into at all - please go to their forums and see all the MCAT 33+ people getting rejected...
 
Florida is good, but hard to establish residency there. I believe the only sure fire way to do it is to marry a FL Resident.

I suggest you pretend to marry someone. Sounds like a romance movie! 🙂
 
It I was a premed I would totally move to Texas. They have a bunch of med schools including a couple standouts (Baylor, UTSW, etc) and the in state tuition is stupid low.

But I have no idea how hard it is to establish residency in Texas.
 
New York has so many schools!! The SUNYs have quite reasonable MCAT/GPA averages. It's a great place to live as well. 🙂
 
New York or Georgia might be worth considering, in addition to Texas.
 
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Florida is the way to go. Cheap living, comparatively, new MD schools as well as two DO schools.
Also Florida is filled with people from other places including Ca and Ny.

Though I am sure applying OOS is not that bad.
 
Here would be my choices:

New Mexico
Louisiana
Mississippi
Florida
New York
Texas
Kansas
 
Have you considered the Caribbean :meanie:
Jk, move to Texas though
 
TX residency isn't that easy to acquire; you'd definitely need to work on it for at least 2 years if you have no prior connections to the state.

Tbh, I think the CA thing is pushed out of proportion-- yes, it's very hard to get a spot there, but there are still plenty of OOS options, and simply changing a state isn't the solution when applying to med schools.
 
Thanks everyone for the input! I've always thought that establishing state residency at a less competitive state will increase my chances, but I guess not so much. Plus, starting a new life at a different state seems pretty daunting, tbh, since I've never lived outside of Cali before :O
 
Stumpyman said:
TX residency isn't that easy to acquire; you'd definitely need to work on it for at least 2 years if you have no prior connections to the state.

Tbh, I think the CA thing is pushed out of proportion-- yes, it's very hard to get a spot there, but there are still plenty of OOS options, and simply changing a state isn't the solution when applying to med schools.
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Fortunately, you're a bit off there!
According to the TMDSAS website:
TMDSAS said:
1. Live in Texas for 12 consecutive months by the application deadline, October 1; and
2. Establish and maintain domicile for 12 consecutive months prior to the application deadline, October 1, by doing one of the following:
Be gainfully employed in Texas (Student jobs do not qualify as gainful employment) - Gainful employment is employment that provides an income that is sufficient to provide at least one-half of the individual's tuition and living expenses or that represents an average of at least twenty hours of employment per week​
Sole or joint marital ownership of residential real property in Texas by the person seeking to enroll or the dependent's parent, having established and maintained a domicile at the residence​
Own and operate a business in Texas​
Be married for one year to a person who has established domicile in Texas​
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-Another CA premed planning to move to TX :laugh:
 
cinamin said:
New York or Georgia might be worth considering, in addition to Texas.
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Georgia has plenty of asian applicants. Emory, Georgia State, and Ga. Tech are here. No shortage of well qualified asian or indian applicants.
 
If you're a resident of a southern state, it's often easier to get into their states' SOMs. Look at Miss..they hardly get any apps at their SOM because it heavily favors instate students. If you have good-enough stats, you're in.

If you're an Alabama resident with good stats, then it's not usually difficult to get into USA (unless your stats are so high that they assume that you're going elsewhere...yield protection). USA gets less than 1400 apps...27% are instate apps, but 90% of matriculants are instate.
 
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mehc012 said:
Fortunately, you're a bit off there!
According to the TMDSAS website:


-Another CA premed planning to move to TX :laugh:
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I live in TX- I'm familiar with the residency requirements. Those aren't really "easy," seeing as that you need to live in TX for a year before applying, as well as own a business/land or work a non-student job for a year before applying.

Honestly, a 1+ year is a ton of time; getting into med school doesn't have to involve uprooting your life and living in a completely new place just for the sake of possibly getting slightly better chances at admission. I really wouldn't move all the way to TX just for that reason (but if you have family, close ties, a good job, etc waiting for you in TX, then I'd say it's probably a better idea).
 
Stumpyman said:
I live in TX- I'm familiar with the residency requirements. Those aren't really "easy," seeing as that you need to live in TX for a year before applying, as well as own a business/land or work a non-student job for a year before applying.

Honestly, a 1+ year is a ton of time; getting into med school doesn't have to involve uprooting your life and living in a completely new place just for the sake of possibly getting slightly better chances at admission. I really wouldn't move all the way to TX just for that reason (but if you have family, close ties, a good job, etc waiting for you in TX, then I'd say it's probably a better idea).
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I didn't say they were easy; I said they didn't take 2 years!
However, I agree that it would not be worthwhile simply as a "get into med school" strategy...I'm considering it because I have never had student loans and I am uncomfortable with the idea of incurring hundreds of thousands in loans. TX has a high concentration of schools with very low IS tuition. The combined weight of IS preference for the schools plus the lower tuition for residents makes the idea attractive to me. Then again, I have no career, only one family member I live near enough to see without a plane ticket, and no attachment to this area as I only just moved here myself. :laugh:
 
If you will be willing to go OOS for med school, then you would move out of CA anyway. then why don't you just go OOS already to get better residency state and pay IS tuition.

Texas TMDSAS rules:
http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/medical/residency.html

Virginia is a good state. 25% IS acceptance rate.
Vermont there are more 1st-year class seats than IS applicants.

But the thing is you need to be gainfully employed and pay state taxes to count as state resident, not just live there.
 
Lanolin said:
Georgia has plenty of asian applicants. Emory, Georgia State, and Ga. Tech are here. No shortage of well qualified asian or indian applicants.
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Don't forget UGA, Mercer, Oglethorpe, and Morehouse! Georgia has a surprisingly large number of good schools.

On a side note, I find it interesting that out of the three schools you listed, two were extremely high prestige universities and the other was GSU. Does GSU have a reputation I'm not aware of?
 
Do schools consider past residency (obviously not for tuition purposes, I know) at all? For example, since someone just mentioned Virginia's IS acceptance rates: I spent half of my life around UVa, and worked in some of their medical research labs during highschool. I haven't really established residency anywhere else since, though I can no longer claim it there, obviously. I know they favor IS applicants, and I would be OOS, but would my close ties to that area endear me at least a little? I suppose it doesn't matter at all, it just bothers me somewhat that I have NO residency and that the place I consider the closest I have to a hometown considers me an outsider for this! Meh, I guess it can't hurt!
 
mehc012 said:
Do schools consider past residency (obviously not for tuition purposes, I know) at all? For example, since someone just mentioned Virginia's IS acceptance rates: I spent half of my life around UVa, and worked in some of their medical research labs during highschool. I haven't really established residency anywhere else since, though I can no longer claim it there, obviously. I know they favor IS applicants, and I would be OOS, but would my close ties to that area endear me at least a little? I suppose it doesn't matter at all, it just bothers me somewhat that I have NO residency and that the place I consider the closest I have to a hometown considers me an outsider for this! Meh, I guess it can't hurt!
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Usually if you graduate from the state's high school you would be considered the state resident no matter what.
If you've worked there and filed state taxes that would be a good claim. Also if you've gone out of state only for educational purposes then you should remain the state's resident.

Even if you don't have state residency mentioning your ties to the state on the school's secondary application would give you some advantages.
 
Latuza said:
Usually if you graduate from the state's high school you would be considered the state resident no matter what.
If you've worked there and filed state taxes that would be a good claim. Also if you've gone out of state only for educational purposes then you should remain the state's resident.

Even if you don't have state residency mentioning your ties to the state on the school's secondary application would give you some advantages.
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Oh, right...I forgot about the highschool part!

Yeah, I only left for education, but my mother moved out of VA partway through college, so while I still have a VA license (didn't meet the residency standards to get any other state's license), my car is registered in a different state, I've never made enough money to file taxes, and my mother claims me on hers (in Cali). The election really highlighted to me how obnoxious this all is: no state considered me a resident, so no state wanted to give me a ballot!

But yes, the highschool thing could be clutch for me! It doesn't help for elections, so I had forgotten about it, but it could be very useful for application time! Thanks again!
 
mehc012 said:
Oh, right...I forgot about the highschool part!

Yeah, I only left for education, but my mother moved out of VA partway through college, so while I still have a VA license (didn't meet the residency standards to get any other state's license), my car is registered in a different state, I've never made enough money to file taxes, and my mother claims me on hers (in Cali). The election really highlighted to me how obnoxious this all is: no state considered me a resident, so no state wanted to give me a ballot!

But yes, the highschool thing could be clutch for me! It doesn't help for elections, so I had forgotten about it, but it could be very useful for application time! Thanks again!
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Yeah the high school graduation rule applies in almost every state. But you should double check.
If your mom claims you as dependent on her taxes, then you would be your mom's state of residence.
But you could still claim residency based on the high school rule no matter what. Good luck, much better to claim VA residency for med school admissions.

Yeah I do prefer that US just do admissions based on citizen vs noncitizen. Why classify based on state residency? It's not like where from different countries and we serve the same country! I think most other countries admit based on national citizenship.

Yeah Virginia Tech just opened a med school recently! More IS options now.

Usually a good sign of what state has easier IS admissions is to look at the % of first year class students that are from out of state. If the % of OOS students is high, then that's because not that many qualified IS students apply. States that draw many OOS students are Pennsylvania, Virginia, Vermont, Illinois, West Virginia
 
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Yeah I do prefer that US just do admissions based on citizen vs noncitizen. Why classify based on state residency? It's not like where from different countries and we serve the same country! I think most other countries admit based on national citizenship.
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If state SOMs didn't consider state residency, then the states would likely withdraw financial support. The states give financial support to their med schools so that their states are educating future doctors who will likely practice in their states.

Look at Univ of Miss. It only accepts instate students. It only gets about 400 applicants for 135 seats. If it didn't consider state residency, then its app numbers would significantly rise, they might get a higher stats class, but once those OOS students are off to their residencies, few would return to Miss to practice.
 
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