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tycotyco said:
heres is a arrow diagram for you:

Young male born in to a house hold with little or no money ---> grows up in neighborhood infested with gangs and drugs ---> forced to attend an extemely underfunded public high school (literally barely had working computer)---> barely makes it to college( alive) ---> Gets to college and have to deal with being the only black kid in a classroom filled with 400 other people ---> due to weak academic foundation he is forced to study 10 times harder than white peers ---> He has to study alone because no one wants to to study with the "dumb" black kid ----> After 3 long years finally pulls his GPA to a 3.39 ---> takes a practice MCAT and scores a 13 (like WTF!!!) ----> goes to SDN for help and is called a "troll."
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If you are not a troll, and you are truly looking for help, here is my advice: Go back through all your old class notes and text books. You are going to have to take all those classes again, on your own time. Make sure you understand EVERYTHING. Take notes on the chapters, and then do the problems in the back of the book. This will probably take about 8-12 months of studying (in addition to all the other things you have going on).

This time NEXT year, you might be able to start reviewing MCAT materials. Don't do it beforehand. MCAT prep books are designed for review, not for learning content. Your scores of 4,4,5 indicate that you have not yet mastered the most basic content.
 
jetsfan1234 said:
This time NEXT year, you might be able to start reviewing MCAT materials. Don't do it beforehand. MCAT prep books are designed for review, not for learning content. Your scores of 4,4,5 indicate that you have not yet mastered the most basic content.
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Assuming this wasn't a troll post, its very possible to score that low and still know enough to do a bit better than that.
It all comes down to specific questions , i will not discount that its MUCH more easily attributed to a lack of proper foundation but 'luck' or in this case unluckiness need not be ignored.
 
tycotyco said:
heres is a arrow diagram for you:

Young male born in to a house hold with little or no money ---> grows up in neighborhood infested with gangs and drugs ---> forced to attend an extemely underfunded public high school (literally barely had working computer)---> barely makes it to college( alive) ---> Gets to college and have to deal with being the only black kid in a classroom filled with 400 other people ---> due to weak academic foundation he is forced to study 10 times harder than white peers ---> He has to study alone because no one wants to to study with the "dumb" black kid ----> After 3 long years finally pulls his GPA to a 3.39 ---> takes a practice MCAT and scores a 13 (like WTF!!!) ----> goes to SDN for help and is called a "troll."
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400 people to a classroom? Really?

Who cares about being underprivileged? Statistically I was supposed to be a drug user who did not finish high school, but I've been accepted to medical school.

I don't see you Iooking for help, I see you making excuses. If I got a 13 on a practice test, I'd get off the internet, open a text book, and do something about it.
 
gettheleadout said:
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You have a bad attitude. You had to study alone because no one wanted to study with you? So what? Did your school have tutoring available? Take some responsibility for your performance.

In any case, we're not all Ivy-prep school yuppies here. My high school was in a bad part of town in a city with a pretty high crime rate; once during school my girlfriend got maced when she was close by when a fight broke out and the security guards starting subduing students.
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lol do you want some "street-cred" points or something? Next your going to be telling me how you were once racially profiled.
 
jetsfan1234 said:
If you are not a troll, and you are truly looking for help, here is my advice: Go back through all your old class notes and text books. You are going to have to take all those classes again, on your own time. Make sure you understand EVERYTHING. Take notes on the chapters, and then do the problems in the back of the book. This will probably take about 8-12 months of studying (in addition to all the other things you have going on).

This time NEXT year, you might be able to start reviewing MCAT materials. Don't do it beforehand. MCAT prep books are designed for review, not for learning content. Your scores of 4,4,5 indicate that you have not yet mastered the most basic content.
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is this my only option????
 
tycotyco said:
is this my only option????
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Well, it's what I would do if I were in your shoes. The MCAT is the kind of test where you need to go in knowing everything possible, and you need to have a deep understanding of many concepts. You can't go in thinking "yeah, I think I know most of the stuff, I guess." You are starting from zero, as evidenced by your scores, you don't yet have the science background that you need. So you need to basically re-teach it to yourself before you even attempt to study for the MCAT.
 
tycotyco said:
is this my only option????
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Yes. Heaven forbid you actually learn something from school. If you don't want to put the time into understanding and memorization now, how are you magically going to do this during medical school?

If you can manage to get in, if you fail, there is no blaming a "bias", it's because of lack of preparation.
 
AA with a 13 MCAT and pretty good grades? No worries bro, Youre getting in!!
 
Cheetah13 said:
@listener23 Yes, standardized testing is culturally biased. We can't say that is why he is scoring so low though.
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I might see an argument for the verbal section (although I disagree). How are the science sections culturally biased? Regardless of culture, there should always be one correct answer.
 
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ZeaL6 said:
AA with a 13 MCAT and pretty good grades? No worries bro, Youre getting in!!
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Even if given a boost as a URM, a 13 is too low. He should study for the next several months.
 
What's the difference between pre-meds on SDN and members of the KKK?

(can someone help me finish the joke?)...
 
OP needs to start review now. He should enroll in a Kaplan course in the fall and take the exam next May.

If OP isn't a troll, this clearly isn't a "study for 3 months with some books" situation.
 
tycotyco said:
NO english is not my second language!!! I am a hard working AA male and the test is culturally bias.
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MCAts culturally biased? please. just do the best you can to overcome these obstacles and don't use them as a crutch for doing subpar

trust me you aren't the only one who hasn't lived a privileged life. you make do with what you have.
 
acceptmeplease said:
400 people to a classroom? Really?

Who cares about being underprivileged? Statistically I was supposed to be a drug user who did not finish high school, but I've been accepted to medical school.

I don't see you Iooking for help, I see you making excuses. If I got a 13 on a practice test, I'd get off the internet, open a text book, and do something about it.
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This. You haven't started studying, so it makes sense you would do bad on the diagnostic when you've never seen those types of questions ever. That's why you start studying to bring it up. Like I mentioned, I got a 13-14, but when I actually opened the book and reviewed the stuff I forgot about when the classes ended, and my scored shot up!

Like mentioned too, the vast majority of people aren't from ivy league colleges. Remember, they are the 1% or so. Lots of people had huge college classes. And...studying by yourself shouldn't have stopped you from doing your best. If you needed help, it's available by asking.
 
You should be ashamed of yourself. Really. I am very disappointed right now. Its so many URMs with legitimate concerns and you throw us all under the bus with this trash. You make us look like a joke.

Come on.
 
He was bored last night, hes not coming back.
 
Mods do your job and close this treads. The people of SDN have found a way to make a serious issue in society and turn it into joke. SDN is a cesspool of racial insensitive
 
tycotyco said:
Mods do your job and close this treads. The people of SDN have found a way to make a serious issue in society and turn it into joke. SDN is a cesspool of racial insensitive
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Epic.
 
Why are you always bringing race back into the topic? I thought this was an MCAT topic.
 
tycotyco said:
Mods do your job and close this treads. The people of SDN have found a way to make a serious issue in society and turn it into joke. SDN is a cesspool of racial insensitive
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*insensitivity. You completely ignored @GuyWhoDoesStuff... :nono:

I think you should work on your English first before you accuse SDN or the MCAT of racism.

GuyWhoDoesStuff said:
*"biased"

I'm consistently amazed at how almost everyone who tries to use this word fails to use the correct form. It's a mistake repeated over and over again by multiple posters on this very thread.

Also, what language did you learn primarily growing up as an African American?
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Espadaleader said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. Really. I am very disappointed right now. Its so many URMs with legitimate concerns and you throw us all under the bus with this trash. You make us look like a joke.

Come on.
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/thread (again)
 
tycotyco said:
Mods do your job and close this treads. The people of SDN have found a way to make a serious issue in society and turn it into joke. SDN is a cesspool of racial insensitive
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And if you're not a troll.. it's time to start figuring out your study plan. There's plenty of discussion and help in the MCAT Discussions forum.
 
You mark my words SDN. You laugh now but I promise you I'm going to study every waking minute from now until august. I will get a 36 just watch I'll be back...
 
tycotyco said:
You mark my words SDN. You laugh now but I promise you I'm going to study every waking minute from now until august. I will get a 36 just watch I'll be back...
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Ok? Go for it. But you'll probably accuse SDN/MCAT/AAMC/Prometric/computers for being racist if your score is lower than a 36.
 
Good luck getting a 36! I will be rooting for you.
May I suggest starting with learning proper grammar and spelling, particularly the use of they're, there, and their.

Secondly, my I suggest you quit acting like a victim and grab the test by the goods and rock it without any excuse. Let go of any excuse you have for the entire application process now or you will greatly inhibit your learning curve. The process is what it is and you have to go through it regardless of whether you like it or not.
 
@kvn2u short answer is just to look up the issue on google ( I don't want to give more life to this thread). My comment was more in terms of standardized testing in general.
 
tycotyco said:
I'm no troll, I have been following this form for a while and just decided to make an account. I know its hard for you to wrap your over privileged brains around this but society is simply un-fair. There not many blacks in medical school not because there lazy but because society does a horrible job at making things fair.
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tycotyco said:
You mark my words SDN. You laugh now but I promise you I'm going to study every waking minute from now until august. I will get a 36 just watch I'll be back...
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We will say the same thing regardless of whether you are successful or not. Many took issue with your attitude and attempts to blame your poor score on others. If you are serious about wanting to perform well, you need to own that there is a problem on your end and take actions to remedy it. As has been said, with a score that low on an untimed practice exam, this certainly reflects a deficit in knowledge from your courses. The are a number of websites like coursera that offer "free" informal college courses and you should investigate some of those. Alternatively, MIT OCW provides excellent notes. You should view these and go through all of your textbooks and work the relevant problems. Essentially, you need to relearn your basic science curriculum. After this, then you can focus on normal MCAT study materials.

If you are serious about wanting to do well, try this: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/breaking-down-the-mcat-a-3-month-mcat-study-schedule.623898/
 
Cheetah13 said:
@kvn2u short answer is just to look up the issue on google ( I don't want to give more life to this thread). My comment was more in terms of standardized testing in general.
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Okay, I see what you mean! Thanks!
 
I believe in you sir, good luck.
 
tycotyco said:
You mark my words SDN. You laugh now but I promise you I'm going to study every waking minute from now until august. I will get a 36 just watch I'll be back...
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If you do pls dont waste ur essay talking about overcoming the racist mcat
 
EvenStevens said:
If you do pls dont waste ur essay talking about overcoming the racist mcat
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I don't know, I think, should he get an interview, it would be great to see him rant about how the interviewers were racist for not thinking his achievements were significant.

Please, OP, make your entire essay about every racial barrier you overcame.
 
LoL!

I know that only the OP posted his "diagnostic score," but how did any of but a few of you score above a 3 on the verbal reasoning section if you can't read between lines of an obvious troll.
 
This thread was amusing....not rly *yawn*
 
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