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[Rphonthecome]

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HELLO

I AM ABOUT TO START MY P4 ROTATION IN THE FALL AND I AM TRYING TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING IN TERMS OF OFFERS FROM WALGREENS OR ANY OTHER SPOTS?
I AM ABOUT TO BECOME AN INTERN AND I AM HEARING A LOT ON HOW THE SALARIES HAVE DROPPED EVEN IN THE HIGH 40'S, IT WILL BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT MY OUTLOOK WILL BE ONCE I GRADUATE IN 2021?

THANKS FOR THE INPUT

 

[SFCA2020]

I've heard Wags is closing 200 stores and will lay off 700 RPHs. New grads are offered with $46.50/h.

 

[Rphonthecome]

I've heard Wags is closing 200 stores and will lay off 700 RPHs. New grads are offered with $46.50/h.

wow , thats insane

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

wow , thats insane

I am less than an hour drive away from Google Headquarter. Three letters were offering new grads 50-55/hr early this year. Now? The last job posting from them was over a month ago, for a grad intern. They are hiring techs and cashiers, but not pharmacists, within 100 miles radius from where I am.

UCSF hospitals, along with Stanford medical centers, are cutting hours and pay. One of their physical therapist has filed unemployment last month. It's in the news. Hiring freeze is everywhere, and I won't expect hiring restarts by late 2021 at earliest or 2022, or even worse the year after that.

 

[Rphonthecome]

I am less than an hour drive away from Google Headquarter. Three letters were offering new grads 50-55/hr early this year. Now? The last job posting from them was over a month ago, for a grad intern. They are hiring techs and cashiers, but not pharmacists, within 100 miles radius from where I am.

its scary times, do you think they only hire the interns that's been working for them?

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

its scary times, do you think they only hire the interns that's been working for them?

Maybe, but I think they are just not hiring. They are cutting hours for experienced pharmacists and laying people off. Safeway pharmacy has cut hours so much that every time I was there grocery shopping, it's closed.

 

[Gombrich12]

Hmm if only someone could've known four years ago that the job market for pharmacists was going to be horrible.

 

[Rphonthecome]

Maybe, but I think they are just not hiring. They are cutting hours for experienced pharmacists and laying people off. Safeway pharmacy has cut hours so much that every time I was there grocery shopping, it's closed.

I see. The 50-55 was that in Chicagoland or California?

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

I see. The 50-55 was that in Chicagoland or California?

California. I remember I saw a post by a pharmacy grad from Chicago area in 2016-2018 saying she can't find ANY job in that area several months after grad. Reached out to everybody she could, but still no luck. The job market there is saturated beyond imagination, and it's especially hard for new grads.

 

[Rphonthecome]

California. I remember I saw a post by a pharmacy grad from Chicago area in 2016-2018 saying she can't find ANY job in that area several months after grad. Reached out to everybody she could, but still no luck. The job market there is saturated beyond imagination, and it's especially hard for new grads.

Thanks for the info. I hope things turn around, it would've been nice to hear from 2020 graduates. I guess there is no jobs being offered as you said.

 

[SFCA2020]

CVS in CA, AZ: $56.40, in NV: 93K, 35h
Kroger in NV: $58

 

[Rphonthecome]

Hmm if only someone could've known four years ago that job market for pharmacists was going to be horrible.

I agree, but you can't go back to what would've been.

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

Thanks for the info. I hope things turn around, it would've been nice to hear from 2020 graduates. I guess there is no jobs being offered as you said.

I am a 2020 grad, but I work for one of the big biotech companies in the area. I was debating whether I should even sit for naplex, so I was closely monitoring the job market for retail positions quite a while now. I have a post for that. You can check it out.

 

[Rphonthecome]

CVS in CA, AZ: $56.40, in NV: 93K, 35h
Kroger in NV: $58

Not bad compared to what I have been hearing.

 

[SFCA2020]

I am a 2020 grad, but I work for one of the big biotech companies in the area. I was debating whether I should even sit for naplex, so I was closely monitoring the job market for retail positions quite a while now. I have a post for that. You can check it out.

I'm a new grad too and I'm trying to find a job in North CA. How did you find your job?

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

Not bad compared to what I have been hearing.

Mind you, those were old data now, prior to the pandemic lockdown. covid-19 has changed EVERYTHING, even hospital unicorn jobs are affected. If they are not hiring, it doesn't matter how much a hypothetical job can pay. A job can theoretically pay 1 million dollars per hour, but if there are zero hours available, it's still zero dollars to be made.

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

I'm a new grad too and I'm trying to find a job in North CA. How did you find your job?

I have a post for that. My journey is not for everyone tho.

 

[Rphonthecome]

I am a 2020 grad, but I work for one of the big biotech companies in the area. I was debating whether I should even sit for naplex, so I was closely monitoring the job market for retail positions quite a while now. I have a post for that. You can check it out.

ya I mean I don't even think its feasible to take the exam with the COVID situation. I am planning to intern in hopes of getting an offer next year. if you get hired as a grad intern, do you get guaranteed a job?

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

ya I mean I don't even think its feasible to take the exam with the COVID situation. I am planning to intern in hopes of getting an offer next year. if you get hired as a grad intern, do you get guaranteed a job?

No, but I think you will be considered priority when hiring as a grad intern.

 

[SFCA2020]

ya I mean I don't even think its feasible to take the exam with the COVID situation. I am planning to intern in hopes of getting an offer next year. if you get hired as a grad intern, do you get guaranteed a job?

Yes, when you get hired as a grad intern, they'll train you to become a pharmacist and expect you to get licensed within 90 days.
More than 30 of my classmates interned at Walgreens, including me, they hire only 1 as a grad intern.
For CVS, about 10 interns of my class got hired as grad interns. Most of them can speak Spanish.

 

[Rphonthecome]

Yes, when you get hired as a grad intern, they'll train you to become a pharmacist and expect you to get licensed within 90 days.
More than 30 of my classmates interned at Walgreens, including me, they hire only 1 as a grad intern.
For CVS, about 10 interns of my class got hired as grad interns. Most of them can speak Spanish.

That's crazy, there is no point of interning I guess. do you still work for them?

 

[projektreverb]

Pretty sure I read it’s in the upper 40’s

 

[Rphonthecome]

Pretty sure I read it’s in the upper 40’s

which area ?

 

[SFCA2020]

That's crazy, there is no point of interning I guess. do you still work for them?

No. Every one will be let go on 5/31

 

[2020graducandoit]

Kroger Midwest $54/hr 32 hrs/wk, CVS Florida $51/hr 30 hrs/wk, Costco Midwest $68/hr but only guaranteed 24 hrs/wk and no benefits, had several friends get quality job offers in hospitals and accept straight out of graduating this year (getting paid pharmacist salary already with requirement to get licensed in 90 days..much better deal compared to how retail does it)

 

[SFCA2020]

Updated: Wags Midwest (not sure which state) $52.15, Kroger WI: $61

 

[projektreverb]

which area ?

Chicagoland if you get licensed after September 1st

 

[Rphonthecome]

No. Every one will be let go on 5/31

thats not right at all. how long did u intern with them ?

 

[SFCA2020]

thats not right at all. how long did u intern with them ?

3 years since P1. Some of my classmates worked as a tech with them many years before pharm school.

 

[Rphonthecome]

Updated: Wags Midwest (not sure which state) $52.15, Kroger WI: $61

That resembles to what I have been hearing. Hopefully, these numbers stay up or the same. I heard some people took $49 with 32 floating recently at wag

 

[Rphonthecome]

3 years since P1. Some of my classmates worked as a tech with them many years before pharm school.

That's a decent amount of time to be working for them, I am sorry they did not at least offer you a floating job. You got to apply to everything now.

 

[SFCA2020]

That's a decent amount of time to be working for them, I am sorry they did not at least offer you a floating job. You got to apply to everything now.

Yes I did. About 30 applications/week for the last 5 weeks and I got 1 invitation for an interview and for that one position, they interviewed 20 candidates.

 

[Rphonthecome]

Yes I did. About 30 applications/week for the last 5 weeks and I got 1 invitation for an interview and for that one position, they interviewed 20 candidates.

crazy. with how the market is saturated, have you considered moving?

 

[SFCA2020]

do

crazy. with how the market is saturated, have you considered moving?

Yes. Right now I apply mostly in CA. Some in OR, NV, AZ, TX, VA...

 

[Farmgurl20]

CVS in CA, AZ: $56.40, in NV: 93K, 35h
Kroger in NV: $58

cvs in AZ is 51/hr

 

[Rphonthecome]

cvs in AZ is 51/hr

went down to $51? how about wag ?. A few years back people start with 59-60 now its soon in the '40s..... its getting ugly one yeat at a time

 

[Rphonthecome]

Yes. Right now I apply mostly in CA. Some in OR, NV, AZ, TX, VA...

I am hopeful you will land something very soon. Keep going hard until you get that yes.

 

[SFCA2020]

cvs in AZ is 51/hr

Oh wow. There's a big difference between people. My closest friend just got a job offer from cvs last week, staff - not floater, $56.40 plus benefits.

 

[Rphonthecome]

Oh wow. There's a big difference between people. My closest friend just got a job offer from cvs last week, staff - not floater, $56.40 plus benefits.

ya, it's crazy the difference in one state. I wonder why? probably the other person bargained better than the other one?
I STILL DO NOT SEE ANY CHICAGO LAND NEW GRADS GIVING THEIR INPUT , WE STILL LIKE TO HEAR FROM YALL

 

[mentos]

ya, it's crazy the difference in one state. I wonder why? probably the other person bargained better than the other one?
I STILL DO NOT SEE ANY CHICAGO LAND NEW GRADS GIVING THEIR INPUT , WE STILL LIKE TO HEAR FROM YALL

There's little to no negotiation with the chains. It's pretty much take it or leave it.

For some reason CA has way higher pay. People say cost of living is a factor, but places like NYC, Washington DC, Miami, Boston have similar cost of living and their pay is way less.

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

There's little to no negotiation with the chains. It's pretty much take it or leave it.

For some reason CA has way higher pay. People say cost of living is a factor, but places like NYC, Washington DC, Miami, Boston have similar cost of living and their pay is way less.

only for hospital i think, for pgy-2 trained board certified specialists. wage has gone down a big time since the pandemic. it used to have higher pay, not any more. but don't forget, CA schools have sky high tuition too. USC can easily put people in 300k debt, and UCSF in 200k debt.

i guess we may soon see some CA grads default on loans.

 

[mentos]

only for hospital i think, for pgy-2 trained board certified specialists. wage has gone down a big time since the pandemic. it used to have higher pay, not any more. but don't forget, CA schools have sky high tuition too. USC can easily put people in 300k debt, and UCSF in 200k debt.

i guess we may soon see some CA grads default on loans.

Many CA residents go to out of state schools too.

 

[SFCA2020]

There's little to no negotiation with the chains. It's pretty much take it or leave it.

For some reason CA has way higher pay. People say cost of living is a factor, but places like NYC, Washington DC, Miami, Boston have similar cost of living and their pay is way less.

This year CVS pays the same for CA (LA area) and AZ. I don't know about the central or far north where people don't want to go to.

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

Many CA residents go to out of state schools too.

true, but then they have to pay out of state tuition and higher living expenses, rent, cars, etc, and there are also many who were reluctant to move out of state, especially those from SoCal. they rather sign up for USC than moving out lol. there are plenty of them, and i guess that's why USC can jack up tuition every year without worrying about their application number.

 

[Rphonthecome]

There's little to no negotiation with the chains. It's pretty much take it or leave it.

For some reason CA has way higher pay. People say cost of living is a factor, but places like NYC, Washington DC, Miami, Boston have similar cost of living and their pay is way less.

how about texas ? is the market better there ?
do speciality pharmacist get better pay ? is it hard to get those jobs at wag or cvs ?

 

[Chrish]

Are chain salaries in 40s an hour have been verified by someone or it it just someone “heard” it?

 

[mentos]

how about texas ? is the market better there ?
do speciality pharmacist get better pay ? is it hard to get those jobs at wag or cvs ?

I'm sure remote towns and border towns in Texas are hiring. Probably hard to get a job within 1-2 hours of a big city. What is specialty pharmacy? Sounds like another unicorn job that less than 1% of pharmacists have.

 

[mentos]

Are chain salaries in 40s an hour have been verified by someone or it it just someone “heard” it?

Plenty of data here:

2018/2019/2020 PharmD Jobs Salaries (Facts)

Anyone being offered >70/hr for a PIC position in this market is a dream. Totally laughable. Or I was being scammed when I was a PIC. Yeah i was taken on by WM in 2017 for 70/hr so i dunno where these 85+ numbers come from but im jealous.

forums.studentdoctor.net

It says "facts" in the title so it's true.

 

[harvoni_rituxan]

I'm sure remote towns and border towns in Texas are hiring. Probably hard to get a job within 1-2 hours of a big city. What is specialty pharmacy? Sounds like another unicorn job that less than 1% of pharmacists have.

Specialty pharmacies are the ones that dispense oncology & rare disease meds. Those meds are very expensive so the markup is lucrative.

 

[mentos]

Specialty pharmacies are the ones that dispense oncology & rare disease meds. Those meds are very expensive so the markup is lucrative.

I just searched indeed and there is one Specialty Pharmacist position posted within 100 miles of me. It's probably a fake listing too.