2005 NRMP Study on Match Results for All Specialities

[Wahoos]

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To all Residency Applicants,

This is the best study I have seen on Match results from the NRMP, just published this year. It has all the Step I scores, Match/Unmatch results, number of spots, number of apps, etc, etc, from the 2005 Match. I found this originally posted on the Ortho forums. Hope this helps.

http://www.uicomp.uic.edu/Students/NRMP - Charting Outcomes in the Match.pdf

Another good Article Specifically on the Selection of Orthopedic Residents is called, An analysis of orthopaedic residency selection criteria. by Bernstein AD, Jazrawi LM, Elbeshbeshy B, Della Valle CJ, Zuckerman JD. Came out of the NYU Orthopedic program. A very detailed analysis of the Process.

http://www.ejbjs.org/cgi/reprint/84/11/2090

Another Article called "What Attributes are necessary for the selection of a Orthopedic Surgery Resident. by Dr. Bajaj." is also good. This link might or might not work.

http://sas.epnet.com/externalframe....40OnssNOk7KzY5K2w1+XyvwAA&an=15508238&db=byh&

I think if you read the above studies, it will answer alot of questions, esp the ones "Am I competitve enough for ........?"

 

[Samoa]

Yeah, I've seen that study. The problem is it only contains information about programs that match through NRMP. In other words, it leaves out Urology, Ophthalmology, Neurosurgery, ENT, Integrated Plastics, Neurology and Child Neuro. The first 5 of which are some of the most competitive matches out there, and the ones for which people worry about competitiveness the most.

It's a nice resource for ortho, derm and rad onc hopefuls, though.

 

[Wahoos]

The Integrated Plastics programs are through the NRMP and included in that Study.... otherwise, you are right that the other SanFran Match Specialities are not included in this study.

 

[Samoa]

Well, as long as we're being nitpicky:

Urology is neither SF match nor NRMP. Also, ENT is no longer SF match. Which is why I listed them individually instead of just saying "SF match specialties."

 

[spal]

Hey all MS4s,

I just want to let you all know that there is a new edition available for Iserson's Getting Into A Residency. It is now in its seventh edition and has been published-July 2006-by Galen Press, Ltd.
(www.galenpress.com; 800-442-5369).
It's a really helpful book, packed with up-to-date information. It has been significantly updated, with new information in the many figures and tables and all those URLs you need but can never find.
The price for the new edition has not increased from the last edition; it is $38.95 (plus shipping-and tax in Arizona).

I hope this helps!

 

[modelslashactor]

it's interesting that some 'competitive' specialties (radiology is a good example) have plenty of seats to accomodate all US seniors. personally i would think this would mean it would not be competitive, but I guess the IMGs must give some of the US grads a run for their money.

 

[Llenroc]

Holy shiite, Internal Medicine has an average USMLE score of 220 for U.S. seniors that matched. 😱 And here I am with my 218 thinking I was going to get my pick of IM residencies because 40% of the spots are filled by foreign grads. In fact, IM has a higher Step 1 score than General Surgery!

 

[Darko]

I was surprised to see that 80% of students that matched had research experience, while the number of students that have been published in the competitive specialties exceeds 70%

Looks like research is becoming more important, almost expected out of medical students. How long will it be until schools universally make it a requirement to graduate?

 

[gostudy]

I was surprised to see that 80% of students that matched had research experience, while the number of students that have been published in the competitive specialties exceeds 70%

Looks like research is becoming more important, almost expected out of medical students. How long will it be until schools universally make it a requirement to graduate?

Yeah, that also caught my eye. But I wonder what qualifies as "research."

 

[8744]

it's interesting that some 'competitive' specialties (radiology is a good example) have plenty of seats to accomodate all US seniors. personally i would think this would mean it would not be competitive, but I guess the IMGs must give some of the US grads a run for their money.

No. What the statistics fail to take into account is the large element of self-selection in the really competitive specialties.

I think a better measure of competitiveness would be to see how many positions were open for the scramble and how quickly they filled.

 

[footcramp]

self selection is a part but it also shows that stubborn people who apply anyway have like a 50% shot at match, which isn't too shabby. much better than a 0% chance by not applying.

 

[chitown82]

can someone send me the file of the study? the first link posted isn't working
thanks.

 

[deleted109597]

can someone send me the file of the study? the first link posted isn't working
thanks.

Here

 

[cgk]

I was surprised to see that 80% of students that matched had research experience, while the number of students that have been published in the competitive specialties exceeds 70%

Looks like research is becoming more important, almost expected out of medical students. How long will it be until schools universally make it a requirement to graduate?

Does research experience and publishing prior to medical school count to the residency program directors?

 

[septua]

Does research experience and publishing prior to medical school count to the residency program directors?

bump

 

[Samoa]

That must be what they're counting in the study, but from what I've heard, it doesn't count for much unless you've continued to do research in med school. That may be specialty specific though.

 

[footcramp]

seems like what people wanted to know is whether you are academically oriented or not. i did some research in med school but a lot less than in undergrad, and people tended to look at my undergrad stuff when looking at my cv. if you have significant research, even if it's before med school, i'm not sure how much of a difference it makes, but it's definitely noticed.

i will also add that certain high ranking faculty suggested that i include healthcare related activities that i did during undergrad as well. obviously i don't know if others want to see it but i figure if even just a few want it, it's better to include it rather than not.

all of this was a surprise because i figured no one cared about stuff before med school but i guess they do.