2005 S. A. E.

[paz5559]

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Realizing everyone has not yet taken it, this may be a day premature, but is anyone interested in going over the questions that bothered/troubled/baffled them?

 

[drusso]

I don't know what the rules are about discussing specific questions, but some questions clearly had no correct answer...

 

[DigableCat]

I don't know what the rules are about discussing specific questions, but some questions clearly had no correct answer...

I'm not taking it till Saturday...

ugh!

 

[paz5559]

I don't know what the rules are about discussing specific questions, but some questions clearly had no correct answer...

Given that they pulblish the exam, albeit in abridged format (www.aapmr.org/zdocs/education/04SAER_abridged.pdf),
I can't imagine it violates any rules to discuss the SAE after the fact.

Still, I will defer to the great and powerful drusso regarding the official policy our illustrious, incongruous, inscrutable AAPM&R.

 

[bbbmd]

Given that they pulblish the exam, albeit in abridged format (www.aapmr.org/zdocs/education/04SAER_abridged.pdf), I can't imagine it violates any rules to discuss the SAE after the fact.

Still, I will defer to the great and powerful drusso regarding the official policy our illustrious, incongruous, inscrutable AAPM&R. After all, I am well known as a loose cannon, and would hate to offend the director of professional relations and management services, should she wish to limit our discussion.

Im not taking it until tomorrow (Saturday), but just out of curiosity, how do your programs prepare you for these exams? Do you all self study? Do your programs do something special to review? Do you guys find the Archives' study guide helpful?

 

[paz5559]

Im not taking it until tomorrow (Saturday), but just out of curiosity, how do your programs prepare you for these exams? Do you all self study? Do your programs do something special to review? Do you guys find the Archives' study guide helpful?

We absolutely do - we have staff review recent SAE exams (this year going back to 2001) as the authors tend to repeat themes, if not actual questions. Our assigned readings for these review sessions are the relevant study guide chapter, which I have found both comprehensive in scope and more current than almost any textbook available

 

[drusso]

Still, I will defer to the great and powerful drusso regarding the official policy our illustrious, incongruous, inscrutable AAPM&R.

Do you ever feel like you've climbed to the top of a very small mountain?

 

[jeeva]

😱

Just took the test yesterday, and all I have to say is....OUCH!


Just when I thought I was starting to get a grasp on things, I discover just how much I don't know. Oh well, I guess the alternative strategy of doing poorly on the first one so you can show a bigger improvement next time is still in play 😉

 

[DigableCat]

Just found out that some programs allow their residents to take the exam "open book".

Sure does put my percentile rank into proper perspective...

 

[gecko]

Kinda messes up the whole purpose of "self assessment"

 

[paz5559]

Kinda messes up the whole purpose of "self assessment"

OK, so when I meet with my PD for my annual review, which SPECIFIC programs can I cite as examples of those that allow their residents to take the exam open book?

 

[DigableCat]

I'll ask...

This may not necessarily want to be common knowledge for everyone to know.

As some applicants may see this as a neg.

As far as the SAE and board correlation go:
It seems in his experience, although a person that does well on SAEs does tend to do well on the boards, a person that does poorly does not necessarily mean they will fail. Namely for a number of factors:

1. The SAE is not used for promotion to the next year. Not at my program anyway.
2. The SAE many times is not taken seriously because of #1.
3. The questions do not go through the same DI(statistical analysis) that the ABPMR boards do. Hence the quality of the questions are not equal.