~2008-2009~"What Are My Chances/Where Should I Apply/What Should I Do" Thread

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The timeliness of your app won't be affected by adding schools soon after verification. The only difference is that you'll pay a little more this way. Check out the fee table here. It's really not that much and definitely worth the extra time you'll gain to really figure things out.

Ya, I noticed this. I just figured it was best to go ahead and submit my app to the schools I know I want to apply to so my AACOMAS will get verified as soon as possible.. I may add a few more later
 
Ya, I noticed this. I just figured it was best to go ahead and submit my app to the schools I know I want to apply to so my AACOMAS will get verified as soon as possible.. I may add a few more later

Yes. This is the way to go. I'm sure you'll take advantage of the time during verification to

1. do extensive research and figure out your list of schools
2. complete those schools' secondaries so they'll be ready to go as soon as you receive them.

👍
 
I think everyone should apply to, and interview at (if invited) LECOM-Bradenton, so they can have a chance to check out PBL. It is pretty cool, and I think it is going to be a big part of the future of medical education.
 
Ok I know I have posted here several times about my schools, but I'm just trying to finalize this list. Stats in brief: 26Q, 3.63 (check mdapplicants for more details)

---Schools for certain---
1. AZCOM
2. CCOM
3. VCOM
4. PCOM
5. Western HS

---Schools I am considering---
6. LEOCOM -Bradenton
7. NYCOM
8. NOVA
9. UNECOM
10. UMDNJ-SOM
11. MSUCOM

Any advice, esp about schools I am considering and if there are other schools that I should consider I am all ears....

Thanks, I appreciate any help!!! Also, thanks to those who have helped with my previous posts!
 
Wow I have very similar stats to you and applied to many of the same schools. If anyone has advice for you, I wouldn't mind hearing it as well 🙂 I wish you the best of luck !!!
 
Wow I have very similar stats to you and applied to many of the same schools. If anyone has advice for you, I wouldn't mind hearing it as well 🙂 I wish you the best of luck !!!

Same to you! Do you have any schools you would suggest??
 
Here is a list of the schools I applied to :
CCOM
LECOM-Erie
LMU
NYCOM
NSUCOM
PCOM
TOUROCOM-NY
TUCOM-Ca
WVSOM
Western U
UMDNJ
UNECOM

I've gotten secondaries from all the schools so far except NYCOM, WVSOM and UMDNJ. TUCOM actually prescreens its applicants before sending secondaries so I guess its a good sign I got one from them!
 
LECOM-Erie vs. LECOM-Brandenton...any reason to pick one or the other?
 
Bingo my friend. Not 100% sure about PBL, and would like the chance to choose.
 
Ok I tried looking at that pros and cons thread and couldnt find anything about Tourocom-Ny or Tourocom-CA....how are these schools?
 
Is there a way to add current activities to my app after it's been submitted so I can update my schools?
 
Is there a way to add current activities to my app after it's been submitted so I can update my schools?

If it was a mistake on your app and you want it reopened, you might be able to by contacting AACOMAS, but this will probably set you back a lot of time.

If you're asking if you can add new stuff as it comes along, during the next few months, you would want to send an update letter to each school individually.
 
I am in a tough spot.

I have a 3.9 GPA and I took the MCAT in May and scored a 22. Lets just say with my GPA and the hours I put into studying this is NOT what I expected. So I have been consdering whether Med School is the route I would really should go. I still have no idea what else I would do if I did not go to med school. Nothing else appeals that greatly to me. (I have been thinking about this for a month)

My mom seems to believe that I will be just fine getting into a DO school with the low MCAT score because my GPA is so high. I would just like other peoples opinions.

Should I retake my MCAT and then apply? (Even though that wouldn't be until October when I get new scores)
Or take my chances and apply with the scores I have now?

Please let me know what you think!
 
I suggest retaking the MCAT. October is not too late. I had a 3.7 took the mcat last July and got a 20. I was not expecting that after all of my practice tests. My applications were complete by Christmas (secondaries and all). I retook the MCAT in Jan, scores were released at the end of Feb, and I interviewed in March and April. I was accepted at KCUMB.
 
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum, so please be nice 🙂 I'm just hoping to get a general feel of what you all think. I'm going to make it short, so please give me some thoughts.

Well, here's what I have going for me so far:

GPA: 3.77 non-science; 3.16 bcpm; 3.5 cummulative

Volunteering:
-volunteered in nursing home (summer-everyday);
-caring for an in-home patient with a neurodegenerative disease (1+ year);
-volunteered at behavior clinic (summer-everyday),
-and in a service fraternity (1.5 yr).
--> next year, planning on volunteering in a free med clinic nearby

Others: had extensive research, total of 3 yrs and 1 paper with me as one of the authors (not the first author, of course)

Other info:
-attend a top 20 University w/ very reputable pre-med program (I won't say the actual name of the university in case someone recognizes me :scared:)
-have a very very strong upward trend- I went from a 3.1--> 3.8 in my trend

I'm taking a year off before I apply to Med school, and in that year, I'm planning to work, continue volunteering. Hopefully, I'll be working as an EMT...but not sure how many job opportunities there are with that. If you have any info on that, please offer me some. So I have a lot of time left to do clinical volunteering, shadowing and such. I'm hoping to boost up my BCPM GPA a lil more with my remaining 1 year in college. Also, I'm only interested in osteopathic medicine (for my own reasons)- not interested in allopathic, and osteopathic med isn't a back-up plan for me.

I haven't taken the MCATs yet...so I know it's hard to say. Assuming I do fairly decent (hoping not to jinx myself), what do you guys think? BTW: I'm planning on take the MCATs after I graduate, so I have a lot of time 🙂
 
I am in a tough spot.

I have a 3.9 GPA and I took the MCAT in May and scored a 22. Lets just say with my GPA and the hours I put into studying this is NOT what I expected. So I have been consdering whether Med School is the route I would really should go. I still have no idea what else I would do if I did not go to med school. Nothing else appeals that greatly to me. (I have been thinking about this for a month)

My mom seems to believe that I will be just fine getting into a DO school with the low MCAT score because my GPA is so high. I would just like other peoples opinions.

Should I retake my MCAT and then apply? (Even though that wouldn't be until October when I get new scores)
Or take my chances and apply with the scores I have now?

Please let me know what you think!

Hey im in a very similar spot as you man. after all that prep you get your score back and want to curl up into a ball, i can sympathize with you for sure. keep truckin', it'll work out eventually if this is what you want to do. you work hard and your gpa is testament to that. i would say give it a shot this year and see what happens, it wouldnt hurt to get a feel for the application process if you dont get in this time around, and then in your year off you can blow away the MCAT and get a good medical job. but if you do get in you dont have to worry about all of the admissions junk anymore! im not sure i would retake the MCAT yet..i would get really prepared and then take it when the timing is better. just my two cents! Good luck!!
 
I am in a tough spot.

I have a 3.9 GPA and I took the MCAT in May and scored a 22. Lets just say with my GPA and the hours I put into studying this is NOT what I expected. So I have been consdering whether Med School is the route I would really should go. I still have no idea what else I would do if I did not go to med school. Nothing else appeals that greatly to me. (I have been thinking about this for a month)

My mom seems to believe that I will be just fine getting into a DO school with the low MCAT score because my GPA is so high. I would just like other peoples opinions.

Should I retake my MCAT and then apply? (Even though that wouldn't be until October when I get new scores)
Or take my chances and apply with the scores I have now?

Please let me know what you think!

I really wouldn't doubt your career choice because you scored less than optimally on one test. You should evaluate your preparedness and address the test itself, rather than changing your life/career plan. The MCAT is not intuitive for many students, but rather another source of potential weeding out of those not fully committed to the end goal. If you really want this, then be objective, address your weaknesses, and remediate ASAP. Stop looking for alternative careers, and focus on obtaining this one! 👍
 
I have a 3.05 with a huge list of EC's and a 31 MCAT. Anyone know if they (AACOM) recalculate GPAs? or do they use the institutional GPA? because i think that if they recalculate it using only my most recent repeated classes ( i have 3 repeats) I will have a much higher GPA than my institutional.
 
I have a 3.05 with a huge list of EC's and a 31 MCAT. Anyone know if they (AACOM) recalculate GPAs? or do they use the institutional GPA? because i think that if they recalculate it using only my most recent repeated classes ( i have 3 repeats) I will have a much higher GPA than my institutional.

You're in luck! Your AACOMAS GPA uses the last grade you received in a class (even if you did worse than the first time you took it). They also don't count math as a science. For all the details, AACOMAS --> Support --> print out the Colleges and Coursework Instructions.
 
wow! man am i having such good luck!!! i didn't do well in calculus 2. THANKS for the help!
 
I hope you guys can reassure me a little bit.
I graduated from UCLA with a 3.6 GPA, and score a 24Q on the MCAT (PS 9/ V 5/ BS 10).
I have a lot of extracurricular activities, volunteering in hospitals, research work, shadow a DO etc.
What do u think my chances are for the california or new york schools? What about AZCOM, ATSU-SOMA, LECOM, PCOM, CCOM, UMDNJ-SOM, TUNCOM, ? (the ones i applied to)
 
I hope you guys can reassure me a little bit.
I graduated from UCLA with a 3.6 GPA, and score a 24Q on the MCAT (PS 9/ V 5/ BS 10).
I have a lot of extracurricular activities, volunteering in hospitals, research work, shadow a DO etc.
What do u think my chances are for the california or new york schools? What about AZCOM, ATSU-SOMA, LECOM, PCOM, CCOM, UMDNJ-SOM, TUNCOM, ? (the ones i applied to)

My opinion, 90% chance you get in to at least one of those. My opinion, however, is worth what you paid for it.

Your GPA is alright. Your MCAT is sub par. But your EC's so I think you'll get in somewhere.
 
I hope you guys can reassure me a little bit.
I graduated from UCLA with a 3.6 GPA, and score a 24Q on the MCAT (PS 9/ V 5/ BS 10).
I have a lot of extracurricular activities, volunteering in hospitals, research work, shadow a DO etc.
What do u think my chances are for the california or new york schools? What about AZCOM, ATSU-SOMA, LECOM, PCOM, CCOM, UMDNJ-SOM, TUNCOM, ? (the ones i applied to)

You will probably get in somewhere, but that verbal will hurt you. Prepare to explain it. You have a decent shot at an interview at Tourocom, since they are OOS friendly and you pass the 24 mcat cutoff, but i would ask them if there is a cutoff for each section. As for NYCOM they are instate friendly and chances of getting an interview there will be low unless you are a NY resident. Dont know too much about the CA schools.
 
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I really wouldn't doubt your career choice because you scored less than optimally on one test. You should evaluate your preparedness and address the test itself, rather than changing your life/career plan. The MCAT is not intuitive for many students, but rather another source of potential weeding out of those not fully committed to the end goal. If you really want this, then be objective, address your weaknesses, and remediate ASAP. Stop looking for alternative careers, and focus on obtaining this one! 👍

Thanks for the reassurance. I have decided to retake the MCAT and my AACOMAS application is almost complete. (I am just waiting on transcripts and someone to proof my personal statment). I have set up a shadowing appointment for a DO, since all those I have shadowed are MDs.

But my question has to do with this "LOR from a DO." How well is the DO supposed to know you before you ask him/her to write you a LOR. I don't feel its fair to visit their office a couple of times and then be like "hey will you write me a LOR." How did you guys go about this?
 
Thanks for the reassurance. I have decided to retake the MCAT and my AACOMAS application is almost complete. (I am just waiting on transcripts and someone to proof my personal statment). I have set up a shadowing appointment for a DO, since all those I have shadowed are MDs.

But my question has to do with this "LOR from a DO." How well is the DO supposed to know you before you ask him/her to write you a LOR. I don't feel its fair to visit their office a couple of times and then be like "hey will you write me a LOR." How did you guys go about this?

some school require you to send the letter before they grant you the interview (lecom), so schools ask for it after. I would look into chocolate bears signature to make sure which school does which. I would not ask the DO right now if you have only contact him/her only a couple of time. Try to get closer to that physician and maybe ask in a month/month and a half, so the LOR will be more precise and have more quality.
 
I scored a 21Q MCAT (7,7,7)....am retaking in September.
3.9 GPA/ 3.93 Science GPA-Summa Cum Laude from Honors College
1 1/2 years Microbiology research experience + Sr. Thesis
Presented at a conference
Worked 1 year (over 1K hours) in an ICU as a Nurse Assistant
What are my chance of getting into a DO school?
 
Hokies, you are someone who would greatly benefit from applying really early. Have you already applied?

It is really hard to say where you stand now. The DO schools really do love clinical experience though, so it wouldn't surprise me if you got some love. A higher MCAT would do you a world of good, but if you haven't applied yet, I think you should get on it.
 
I scored a 21Q MCAT (7,7,7)....am retaking in September.
3.9 GPA/ 3.93 Science GPA-Summa Cum Laude from Honors College
1 1/2 years Microbiology research experience + Sr. Thesis
Presented at a conference
Worked 1 year (over 1K hours) in an ICU as a Nurse Assistant
What are my chance of getting into a DO school?

Low, you have good experience but that mcat is a killer, i have seen a couple people with similar mcat scores get it, but they are pretty rare. Not impossible though

Schools will take the sept mcat, don't worry about getting in. Just clear you head and just focus on the mcat. Worry about getting in after. You have a strong gpa and should do better, maybe look at the mistakes you made the first time. Just apply now, send everything and notify the schools you are getting a new mcat score, and forget that you even applied 😉.
 
I'm applying to 1 DO school (TCOM). I have a 27 (10V 9BS 8PS) and a 3.47 overall GPA. I want to stay in Texas so out of state is not an option for me at this point. Also, I'm applying to all the other MD schools in Texas. I could care less if I become DO or MD by the way- I just want to be a pediatrician. 🙂

So what I want to know is- am I taking a huge risk by applying to only one DO and 7 MD schools? 😕
 
I probably would apply to a couple of more DO schools just to be safe. You do have a good chance at TCOM. Maybe a school really close to Texas like Oklahoma State.
 
Is is my imagination or do allo schools claim to look at the "non-cognitive" side of an applicant soley on their websites. . . when in reality they use a cut off systems based on numbers only.

There are so many factors to consider when trying to attract the right type of peeps to a school. That's one reason that I'm applying to primarily osteopathic schools. Im a tx resident and dont want to have to pay tons of cash for med school but if thats what it takes I'll bite off as big of a loan as I can chew.

It pisses me off that TCOM (a school with one of the lowest tuitions in the country), is trying to become more of an allo school in the application process and narrowing their scope.. .or at least thats what I hear from my advisor and other students. Has anyone else recognized this in TCOM?

Can I be assured that DO schools will truley measure an applicants acceptance potential based on a broader scope than MD schools?
 
Is is my imagination or do allo schools claim to look at the "non-cognitive" side of an applicant soley on their websites. . . when in reality they use a cut off systems based on numbers only.

There are so many factors to consider when trying to attract the right type of peeps to a school. That's one reason that I'm applying to primarily osteopathic schools. Im a tx resident and dont want to have to pay tons of cash for med school but if thats what it takes I'll bite off as big of a loan as I can chew.

It pisses me off that TCOM (a school with one of the lowest tuitions in the country), is trying to become more of an allo school in the application process and narrowing their scope.. .or at least thats what I hear from my advisor and other students. Has anyone else recognized this in TCOM?

Can I be assured that DO schools will truley measure an applicants acceptance potential based on a broader scope than MD schools?

Can any of us be? Remember, this is the world where employers screen candidates by FaceBook and MySpace. :boom:
 
Is is my imagination or do allo schools claim to look at the "non-cognitive" side of an applicant soley on their websites. . . when in reality they use a cut off systems based on numbers only.

There are so many factors to consider when trying to attract the right type of peeps to a school. That's one reason that I'm applying to primarily osteopathic schools. Im a tx resident and dont want to have to pay tons of cash for med school but if thats what it takes I'll bite off as big of a loan as I can chew.

It pisses me off that TCOM (a school with one of the lowest tuitions in the country), is trying to become more of an allo school in the application process and narrowing their scope.. .or at least thats what I hear from my advisor and other students. Has anyone else recognized this in TCOM?

Can I be assured that DO schools will truley measure an applicants acceptance potential based on a broader scope than MD schools?
What do you mean by this? TCOM gets tons of people who could easily have gotten into out-of-state MD schools, but didn't apply. I'm a TX resident, and they didn't even interview me through two application cycles (and I got out-of-state MD interviews). What, exactly, are you saying they are doing wrong? What do you mean by "narrowing their scope"? If you mean that they are taking applicants with good numbers, then yeah, but how can you blame them?
 
Thanks for the reassurance. I have decided to retake the MCAT and my AACOMAS application is almost complete. (I am just waiting on transcripts and someone to proof my personal statment). I have set up a shadowing appointment for a DO, since all those I have shadowed are MDs.

But my question has to do with this "LOR from a DO." How well is the DO supposed to know you before you ask him/her to write you a LOR. I don't feel its fair to visit their office a couple of times and then be like "hey will you write me a LOR." How did you guys go about this?

I kind of had a bizarre experience... I shadowed the DO, asked tons of questions, shared personal stories and information... after only four hours on our first day shadowing, he said to me that there was no need for me to waste my entire day seeing routine procedures, so he'd just go ahead and write a letter 😱. I don't think it's necessarily supposed to happen this way.
 
I kind of had a bizarre experience... I shadowed the DO, asked tons of questions, shared personal stories and information... after only four hours on our first day shadowing, he said to me that there was no need for me to waste my entire day seeing routine procedures, so he'd just go ahead and write a letter 😱. I don't think it's necessarily supposed to happen this way.

I had an identical experience.
 
So, I am kind of freaking out again, and need some input. I just graduated, have a 3.8 cumulative and 3.8 sci gpa. My mcat is 23Q: 10bs/7ps/6v. Amazing LOR's, research paper published, work in hospital ER, teaching positions, many leadership positions. I have applied to almost every Osteopathic school just to be sure I will get in somewhere.. How many schools do you think will give me an interview or accept me? I am retaking the mcat in sept, but if by chance I do NOT score better, what are the chances since I am applying so broadly? I thought my high gpa would offset my 2-3 point from the mean mcat score??

Also, how long from when you submit secondaries will you receive an interview notice, if you do?
 
I have a 29P MCAT (8V, 9B, 12P) and I have a 3.68 overall GPA with a 3.6 Science (engineering degree). I have shadowed an MD and DO physician and worked in EMS for a year. I am applying to these schools:

A.T. Still University, Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine, MO
Chicago College of Osteopathic Medicine of Midwestern University, IL
Edward Via Virginia College of Osteopathic Medicine, VA
Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine, PA
Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine - Bradenton Campus, FL
Lincoln Memorial University - DeBusk College of Osteopathic Medicine, TN
New York College of Osteopathic Medicine of NYIT, NY
Nova Southeastern University College of Osteopathic Medicine, FL
Ohio University College of Osteopathic Medicine, OH
Georgia Campus - Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, PA
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, PA
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey
West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine, WV

Is there any others I would stand a good chance at, or is this a good list?
 
You'll probably get an interview at almost all of those places, and you'll get into at least a few.
 
3.1 c GPA
3.3 s GPA
24 MCAT , ( retaking Aug 26.. got really nervous first time I took it)

Got about 2 LORs so far. (1 science professor that i did research with for about 8 mo. , and 1 from volunteer coordinator)

Just started shadowing a DO recently.

About 50+ hrs. volunteering in ER.

Mission trip to mexico in High School.

Worked full-time thruout my entire 7 yrs in college =/

Graduating at the end of this upcoming spring.

Should I even bother to apply this year, or should I beef up my app and apply next year. I'd hate to spend all that money and time applying if I dont even got a shot. And If I should apply this year, when should I start the application process??

Schools I'm interested in :

TCOM
NYCOM
OSUCOM
The new DO school in San Diego
maybe AZCOM

If there are any schools I should add to this list, Please let me know and if any one has cut off info for any of these schools, it would be much appreciated!! Thanks in advance.
 
3.1 C Gpa
3.3 S Gpa
24 Mcat , ( Retaking Aug 26.. Got Really Nervous First Time I Took It)

Got About 2 Lors So Far. (1 Science Professor That I Did Research With For About 8 Mo. , And 1 From Volunteer Coordinator)

Just Started Shadowing A Do Recently.

About 50+ Hrs. Volunteering In Er.

Mission Trip To Mexico In High School.

Worked Full-time Thruout My Entire 7 Yrs In College =/

Graduating At The End Of This Upcoming Spring.

Should I Even Bother To Apply This Year, Or Should I Beef Up My App And Apply Next Year. I'd Hate To Spend All That Money And Time Applying If I Dont Even Got A Shot. And If I Should Apply This Year, When Should I Start The Application Process??

Schools I'm Interested In :

Tcom
Nycom
Osucom
the New Do School In San Diego
Maybe Azcom

If There Are Any Schools I Should Add To This List, Please Let Me Know And If Any One Has Cut Off Info For Any Of These Schools, It Would Be Much Appreciated!! Thanks In Advance.

The What!?!? 😱🙂😀😱😱
 
It was a school my Pre-med advisor told me about.
 
It was a school my Pre-med advisor told me about.

i briefly heard a fellow pre med friend talk about a DO school opening up in San diego in 2013......nothing as recent as next year or the following. They haven't even started building anything yet (i was told it was going to be in la jolla) and I also came up empty with a google search.

Also, as far as your chances....how are your practice MCATs goin? do you think you will be able to improve, say like the 26-29 range? I think it would be worth it to apply, although I would suggest applying NOW and wasting no time in getting your primary submitted. If you are worried about savin money, you can start by only choosing one school. Then, if you get your MCAT score back and are satisfied, you can add more right away. If you aren't satisfied, you can withdraw and you have haven't lost that much money.

Lastly, if you are intersted in schools on the west coast (you mentioned san diego and AZ)...dont forget about Western!
 
TT, I mean most DO schools are known for looking beyond the numbers when granting interviews/acceptances. . . the "holistic" approach is taken during the application process. I'm not saying that DO schools accept students who can't gain acceptance into MD schools, ie those with subpar GPA/MCAT; I just thought that TCOM would look at applicants who truley deserve a shot at matriculating rather than mirror other TX schools in allowing numbers to be the preliminary factor.
Like a huge upward trend in a GPA, or amazing EC's hold more weight at other DO schools than they do at TCOM. I really want to stay in tx due to lower tuition benefit, I'm a non trad, and have supported myself financially since I was 19. . . . I'm not trying to b**ch or ask for sympathy, just frusterated that the only tx DO school seems to be pre-screening at a much higher rate than most out of state DO schools.
But as I said earlier. . . I'll do what it takes to gain acceptance to out of state schools.
 
3.1 c GPA
3.3 s GPA
24 MCAT , ( retaking Aug 26.. got really nervous first time I took it)

Got about 2 LORs so far. (1 science professor that i did research with for about 8 mo. , and 1 from volunteer coordinator)

Just started shadowing a DO recently.

About 50+ hrs. volunteering in ER.

Mission trip to mexico in High School.

Worked full-time thruout my entire 7 yrs in college =/




Graduating at the end of this upcoming spring.

Should I even bother to apply this year, or should I beef up my app and apply next year. I'd hate to spend all that money and time applying if I dont even got a shot. And If I should apply this year, when should I start the application process??

Schools I'm interested in :

TCOM
NYCOM
OSUCOM
The new DO school in San Diego
maybe AZCOM

If there are any schools I should add to this list, Please let me know and if any one has cut off info for any of these schools, it would be much appreciated!! Thanks in advance.

::bump::
 
You need a better MCAT. What does the rest of your application look like? EC's, clinical experience, etc?
 
I have a cum. 3.3 gpa, 3.1 sci., 3.5 non-sci.,

bad part - 20Q MCAT 6/6/8 - i'm taking it again this august....

I've already completed about 12 or 13 of the secondaries already....

what are my chances if i applied to 24 of the D.O. schools????...

Its good that you applied to alot of schools, but you need to improve the mcat. Focus on that
 
Its good that you applied to alot of schools, but you need to improve the mcat. Focus on that


agreed....spend time on the MCAT instead of filling out 24 secondaries that won't be read b/c you miss the MCAT cutoff
 
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