P pandalove89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 15, 2011 Messages 91 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #1 Advertisement - Members don't see this ad How come the nitrogen further away from the carbonyl gets attached to the other carbonyl compound instead of the nitrogen closest to its carbonyl?
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PooyaH Full Member 10+ Year Member 15+ Year Member Joined Apr 24, 2008 Messages 804 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #2 Know these: 1. Aldehyde or Ketone + primary amine = imine 2. Aldehyde or Ketone + secondary amine = enamine Here you have an aldehyde + a primary amine resulting in an imine. Upvote 0 Downvote
Know these: 1. Aldehyde or Ketone + primary amine = imine 2. Aldehyde or Ketone + secondary amine = enamine Here you have an aldehyde + a primary amine resulting in an imine.
P pandalove89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 15, 2011 Messages 91 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #3 PooyaH said: Know these: 1. Aldehyde or Ketone + primary amine = imine 2. Aldehyde or Ketone + secondary amine = enamine Here you have an aldehyde + a primary amine resulting in an imine. Click to expand... But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine? Upvote 0 Downvote
PooyaH said: Know these: 1. Aldehyde or Ketone + primary amine = imine 2. Aldehyde or Ketone + secondary amine = enamine Here you have an aldehyde + a primary amine resulting in an imine. Click to expand... But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine?
N needzmoar Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jul 7, 2011 Messages 250 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Aug 8, 2011 #4 pandalove89 said: But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine? Click to expand... I don't have the 2011 destroyer so I don't know what the molecule looks like but if there are multiple amines, the one with the more available lone pair will be the one that reacts. Upvote 0 Downvote
pandalove89 said: But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine? Click to expand... I don't have the 2011 destroyer so I don't know what the molecule looks like but if there are multiple amines, the one with the more available lone pair will be the one that reacts.
PooyaH Full Member 10+ Year Member 15+ Year Member Joined Apr 24, 2008 Messages 804 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #5 pandalove89 said: But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine? Click to expand... Yes, amides won't react with ketones/aldehydes. Upvote 0 Downvote
pandalove89 said: But couldn't the amine group next to the carbonyl become an imine? Or wait is it because its an amide instead of an amine? Click to expand... Yes, amides won't react with ketones/aldehydes.
P pandalove89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 15, 2011 Messages 91 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #6 PooyaH said: Yes, amides won't react with ketones/aldehydes. Click to expand... okay. btw thank you so much for your help PooyaH. You've been like my mentor for the past couple of weeks. 😀 Upvote 0 Downvote
PooyaH said: Yes, amides won't react with ketones/aldehydes. Click to expand... okay. btw thank you so much for your help PooyaH. You've been like my mentor for the past couple of weeks. 😀
PooyaH Full Member 10+ Year Member 15+ Year Member Joined Apr 24, 2008 Messages 804 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Pre-Dental Aug 8, 2011 #7 pandalove89 said: okay. btw thank you so much for your help PooyaH. You've been like my mentor for the past couple of weeks. 😀 Click to expand... Anytime. Upvote 0 Downvote
pandalove89 said: okay. btw thank you so much for your help PooyaH. You've been like my mentor for the past couple of weeks. 😀 Click to expand... Anytime.