[2017-2018] Anesthesiology Rank Order List Thread

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

Psai

This space for lease
Removed
7+ Year Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
11,384
Reaction score
24,027
I made this thread because I'm curious about what people think about programs this year. It would be nice if people could follow the format the EM people use because it's very interesting to read applicants' thoughts: [2017-2018] Emergency Medicine Rank Order List Thread.

You can post here directly or pm someone like Arch Guillotti to post for your anonymously. Hopefully people participate and that future applicants will find this useful.

Last year's thread: How about starting to talk about our 2017 rank lists?
 
Here are some copied from the spreadsheet:

1 - UCLA
2 - OHSU
3 - VM
4 - UW
5 - MGH
6 - UCSD
7 - UPMC
8 - Vanderbilt
9 - BID
10 - Michigan

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - MA - Brigham
2 - CA - UCSF
3 - CA - Stanford
4 - PA - UPMC
5 - IL - Northwestern
6 - MA - MGH
7 - MA - Beth Israel
8 - CO - U Colorado
9 - WI - U Wisconsin
10 - IL - UIC
11 - WI - MCW
12 - OH - Cleveland Clinic

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - MD - Johns Hopkins
2 - NC - Duke
3 - VA - U Virginia
4 - WA - U Washington
5 - TN - Vanderbilt
6 - MN - Mayo Clinic
7 - NY - Columbia

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCLA
2 - OR - OHSU
3 - WA - Virginia Mason
4 - WA - U Washington
5 - CA - UCSD
6 - MA - MGH
7 - PA - UPMC
8 - MA - MGH
9 - TN - Vanderbilt
10 - MI - U Michigan
(probably one of those MGHs is the Brigham or BI?)

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - IL - Northwestern
2 - IL - U Chicago
3 - CA - Cedars-Sinai
4 - CA - Harbor-UCLA
5 - AL - UAB
6 - OH - U Cincinnati
7 - CA - Loma Linda
8 - VA - U Virginia
9 - TX - UT Houston
10 - WI - MCW
11 - NH - Dartmouth

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NY - NYU
2 - CT - U Conn
3 - IL - Rush
4 - LA - Tulane
5 - MN - U Minnesota
6 - MA - Baystate Medical Center/Tufts

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCLA
2 - NY - Cornell
3 - MN - Mayo Clinic
4 - NY - Columbia
5 - TX - Baylor
6 - CA - USC
7 - NY - Icahn at Mt. Sinai
8 - PA - UPMC
9 - IL - Northwestern
10 - MI - U Michigan
11 - NY - NYU
12 - CA - UC Irvine
13 - IL - U Chicago
14 - TX - UT Houston
15 - OH - Cleveland Clinic

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - VA - VCU
2 - SC - MUSC
3 - AL - UAB
4 - IA - U Iowa
5 - OH - U Cincinnati
6 - CA - Cedars-Sinai

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCSF
2 - MA - MGH
3 - CA - Stanford
4 - MA - Brigham
5 - CA - UCLA
6 - NY - Cornell
7 - IL - Northwestern
8 - WA - U Washington
9 - CA - UCSD
10 - CA - USC
11 - CA - Cedars-Sinai
12 - WA - Virginia Mason
13 - CA - UC Davis
14 - CA - UC Irvine
15 - NY - Icahn at Mt. Sinai
16 - NY - Columbia
17 - PA - U Penn
18 - NY - NYU
19 - CT - Yale

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - DC - Georgetown
2 - NY - Icahn at Mt. Sinai
3 - NY - Cornell
4 - CT - Yale
5 - NY - NYU
6 - NC - UNC
7 - NC - Wake Forest
8 - DC - GW
9 - WI - MCW
10 - NY - Stony Brook
11 - IL - Loyola
12 - MA - Lahey
13 - LA - Louisiana State U

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCSF
2 - MA - Brigham
3 - NC - Duke
4 - NY - Cornell
5 - NY - Columbia
6 - PA - U Penn
7 - NY - Icahn at Mt. Sinai
8 - NY - NYU
9 - IL - Northwestern
10 - TX - UTSW
11 - MA - Beth Israel
12 - VA - U Virginia
13 - CT - Yale
14 - MD - U Maryland
15 - IL - U Chicago
16 - DC - Georgetown
17 - PA - Thomas Jefferson
18 - NJ - Rutgers New Jersey

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - LA - Tulane
2 - LA - Ochsner Clinic
3 - KY - U Kentucky
4 - KY - Louisville
5 - OK - U Oklahoma
6 - TX - UTMB Galveston
7 - OH - U Toledo
8 - MS - U Mississippi
9 - LA - Louisiana State Shreveport
10 - GA - MCG
11 - CT - U Conn
12 - PA - Geisinger
13 - IL - Rush

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - IL - Northwestern
2 - TN - Vanderbilt
3 - CA - UCSF
4 - NY - NYU
5 - CA - UCLA
6 - GA - Emory
7 - PA - U Penn
8 - CA - UCSD
9 - NY - Columbia
10 - IL - Rush
11 - CA - UC Irvine
12 - PA - UPMC
13 - MI - U Michigan
14 - CA - UC Davis
15 - MD - U Maryland
16 - UT - Utah
17 - NC - Wake Forest
18 - MO - Wash U
19 - IL - UIC

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UC Davis
2 - IL - U Chicago
3 - NY - NYU
4 - CA - UC Irvine
5 - TX - UTSW
6 - IL - Loyola
7 - CA - Loma Linda
8 - CA - Harbor-UCLA
9 - WI - MCW
10 - MN - U Minnesota
11 - NY - Montefiore
12 - NY - Stony Brook

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NY - Cornell
2 - NY - Columbia
3 - MI - U Michigan
4 - VA - U Virginia
5 - WA - Virginia Mason
6 - CA - Loma Linda
7 - CA - UC Irvine
8 - KS - U Kansas
9 - NE - U Nebraska
10 - TN - U Tennessee

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UC Davis
2 - CA - UC Irvine
3 - RI - Brown
4 - TX - UTSW
5 - TX - UTMB Galveston
6 - CA - Loma Linda
7 - CA - UC Davis
8 - CA - UC Irvine
9 - TX - UTSW

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NY - NYU
2 - NY - Cornell
3 - CA - Cedars-Sinai
4 - NY - Columbia
5 - DC - GW
6 - CA - USC
7 - CA - UC Irvine
8 - MD - U Maryland
9 - RI - Brown
10 - NY - Hofstra NSLIJ
11 - NY - U Rochester
12 - NY - SUNY Upstate

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - MD - Johns Hopkins
2 - MN - Mayo Clinic
3 - MA - MGH
4 - NY - NYU
5 - NY - Icahn at Mt. Sinai

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NY - Columbia
2 - NY - Cornell
3 - MA - Brigham
4 - MA - Beth Israel
5 - NY - NYU
6 - MD - Johns Hopkins
7 - WA - U Washington
8 - CA - Stanford
9 - TN - Vanderbilt
10 - CT - Yale
11 - NY - Icahn Mt. Sinai/St. Lukes

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCSD
2 - TX - Baylor
3 - TX - UTSW
4 - CA - UC Davis
5 - CO - U Colorado
6 - TX - UT Houston
7 - OR - OHSU
8 - TX - Texas A&M
9 - TX - UTMB Galveston
10 - AZ - U Arizona
11 - TX - UT San Antonio
12 - OK - U Oklahoma
13 - CA - Loma Linda
14 - IL - UIC

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - IL - Northwestern
2 - MA - MGH
3 - PA - U Penn
4 - NY - Columbia
5 - DC - Georgetown
6 - MA - U Massachusetts
7 - OH - Case Western
8 - MA - Baystate Medical Center/Tufts
9 - PA - Drexel

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NC - UNC
2 - VA - U Virginia
3 - MI - U Michigan
4 - TX - UTSW
5 - TX - Baylor
6 - FL - U Florida
7 - WI - MCW
8 - SC - MUSC
9 - KY - U Kentucky
10 - AZ - U Arizona
11 - OH - U Cincinnati
12 - GA - Emory

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - MA - Beth Israel
2 - WA - U Washington
3 - RI - Brown
4 - CO - U Colorado
5 - NY - Icahn Mt. Sinai/St. Lukes
6 - PA - Thomas Jefferson
7 - MA - Tufts

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - NY - Columbia
2 - GA - Emory
3 - TX - Baylor
4 - RI - Brown
5 - FL - Mayo Jacksonville

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - CA - UCSF
2 - CA - Stanford
3 - MA - Brigham
4 - MA - MGH
5 - NY - Cornell
6 - NY - Columbia
7- MA - Beth Israel
8 - NY - NYU
9 - TX - UT Houston
10 - MA - Tufts
11 - WA - U Washington

--------------------------------------------------------------

1 - VA - VCU
2 - WV - West Virginia U
3 - CT - U Conn
4 - RI - Brown
5 - PA - Temple
6 - PA - Thomas Jefferson
7 - NJ - NYMC at St. Josephs
8 - NY - Cornell
9 - NJ - Rutgers New Jersey
10 - MA - Baystate Medical Center/Tufts
11 - NJ - Rutgers
 
Last edited:
It's amusing to me to look at these lists, because there are a lot of programs at the tops and bottoms of people's lists here that are totally opposite of where they were on my list last year. Some that I put at my top are consistently at the bottom for people. Some that I put near the bottom, I'm finding closer to the tops of people's lists.
 
It's amusing to me to look at these lists, because there are a lot of programs at the tops and bottoms of people's lists here that are totally opposite of where they were on my list last year. Some that I put at my top are consistently at the bottom for people. Some that I put near the bottom, I'm finding closer to the tops of people's lists.

just proves the point that choosing a med school by looking at its match list is pointless. you simply can't know what people value in this process, and it can be wildly different for different people.
 
just proves the point that choosing a med school by looking at its match list is pointless. you simply can't know what people value in this process, and it can be wildly different for different people.

Yep. My #1 is a very middle of the pack program, and I interviewed at two top-10 programs that I didn't rank (well, I kinda did). I'm couple's matching, and my #1 is in my city of choice. The two top programs didn't offer my partner an invite, so they're rank option 125 or something, where we put ranks of only one of us matching.
 
I'm noticing people are ranking on average a few more programs than I did several years ago. I still don't think it's necessary to interview at >15 programs. Even >10 seems like a lot. Unless of course someone is unsure of where they'd like to reside.
 
I'm noticing people are ranking on average a few more programs than I did several years ago. I still don't think it's necessary to interview at >15 programs. Even >10 seems like a lot. Unless of course someone is unsure of where they'd like to reside.

Lots of anesthesia people couples match. Myself included. More often than not there was one or two at each of my interviews. I'm more worried about the guy that ranked 5. With the caliber of program he interviewed at you know he got more than that.
 
1. AL: UAB
2. MA: Brigham and Women's
3. TX: Texas A&M/Scott & White
4. OK: OU
5. KS: KU (Kansas City)
6. TX: UTSW
7. TX: UT Galveston
8. TX: UT San Antonio
9. TX: Baylor
10. CO: CU Anschutz
11. TX: UT Houston
12. AZ: U of A
13. KS: KU (Wichita)
14. MO: UMKC
15. MO: Wash U
16. CA: UCSD
17. CA: UCSF
18. CA: Stanford
 
I'm noticing people are ranking on average a few more programs than I did several years ago. I still don't think it's necessary to interview at >15 programs. Even >10 seems like a lot. Unless of course someone is unsure of where they'd like to reside.

For me, that’s the main reason why I did so many interviews. Was trying to figure out where I wanted to live (or, more accurately, where I didn’t want to live) and then find a program in that region with a good combo of both big name reputation and on the lower end of work hours.
 
Top 5:
1. MUSC: proximity to family/friends. Good vibe from residents and faculty. Strong program. Charleston is beautiful. Bill Murray lives there part of the year.

2. U Wisconsin: proximity to wife’s family. Laid back feeling, got along well with residents. Good training, great town. I want to learn to ice fish.

3. U Iowa
4. U Kentucky
5. U Nebraska
 
OK, I'll bite. Instead of sharing my rank list, a lot of which depended on personal factors (like family), I'll share what I would've ranked if it was based purely on how much I liked the program.

Brigham and Women's Hospital
Pros: Reputation speaks for itself. Many faculty are really big names in the specialty. Culture is very friendly and supportive. Boston is a great city with a TON of academic medicine resources and contacts.
Cons: No trauma or liver transplants. Since Boston has many hospitals, they all seem to "fight" for volume and big cases.

Johns Hopkins
Pros: Reputation. Pretty much strong clinically in everything. Lots of structured education time (i.e, academic days). PD seems like an incredible resident advocate.
Cons: Location. If the program wasn't so flawless otherwise, Baltimore would probably be a deal-breaker. Some residents said it wasn't uncommon to be relieved late (6:00-7:00pm or later) several days per month.

Duke
Pros: Great clinical training in everything, especially cardiac, critical care, regional. Very close-knit culture. Affordable cost of living, especially compared to most top programs in bigger cities. Residents not primary workforce. Lots of support for resident wellness.
Cons: Area feels very suburban.

Stanford
Pros: Faculty are very well-known and well-connected in their fields. Lots of ties to the university's academic/research resources and the nearby Silicon Valley entrepreneurship/innovation scene. New adult and peds hospitals currently under construction.
Cons: High cost of living. Few CRNAs, so residents are the main workforce. Not much protected time for education (15min./day).

UCSF
Pros: Great clinical training. Lots of hospitals = high volume and exposure to different settings and populations (academic vs. county/safety net). Options to do specialized 'tracks' in global health, medical education, translational research, etc.
Cons: Insanely high cost of living. Program acknowledges that culture/wellness have not been valued enough in the past, and is upfront that they're working on fixing that. Residents seem to work harder than at most other programs.

Columbia
Pros: Top-tier reputation. Strong training across the board, especially critical care, cardiac, and peds. Lots of support for resident research.
Cons: Cost of living, though the CUMC area is a little less expensive and residents are paid enough to make ends meet. Lots of complaints from residents about poor ancillary staff. Weird that PD is not involved in interview day. Faculty interviewer said didactics not as strong.
(Heard lots of applicants on the trail say the culture here was cold/cutthroat, but I didn't see that at all.)

Penn
Pros: Great cardiac and peds training, in particular. Strong reputation. Lots of interdisciplinary research programs and institutes compared to other more 'siloed' universities.
Cons: Met a number of residents who complained about feeling overworked. Somewhat turned off by how much people bragged about the Penn name.

Vanderbilt
Pros: Huge catchment area, which means residents see all the "big cases" within a several-hour radius. Nashville is a mid-sized, up-and-coming city. Program sees itself as a leader in periop./ERAS. Would definitely be well-trained and happy here.
Cons: Lack of diversity, though in fairness, the program acknowledges this directly during the interview day and seems interested in improving it. Has an SRNA training program.

Wash U
Pros: Large catchment area. High volume of big cases. Hospital campus is yuuuge. Most residents live close to the hospital for very affordable rates.
Cons: St. Louis is a mixed bag; some areas seem 'up-and-coming,' others very run-down. Few residents from "top" med schools. Outgoing PD was awkward; did not get to meet incoming PD during interview.

BIDMC
Pros: Good training. Access to Harvard academic/research connections. Really liked PD and chair.
Cons: Like other Boston programs, seems to split major cases with other hospitals. Have to go outside of system to get some cases, like certain transplants. Lots of OB call.
 
It's funny how universal a lot of program impressions are. That's very similar to how I would rank those programs. I'm surprised MGH didn't offer you an interview when basically everyone else did.
 
2 - OHSU
pros
: I saw no department so uniformly filled with people who are simultaneously scarily smart, nice, and hard working, who also value their time off. By reputation, Dr. Kirsch is truly one of the more impressive people I've ever met within the specialty, and his presence seems to set the tone and direction of the department. Clinical training is apparently uncompromising, and their special education tracks (TEE, QI, etc.) seem to be value-added and well executed. I interviewed at a bunch of the "big names" on both coasts and feel like this program may be the most undervalued name in anesthesiology at this point. My sense is that few programs invest more in each trainee than OHSU does.

cons
: autonomy comes more slowly than some other major west coast programs. another great program with low trauma volume.

#1 > #2 > (#3 = #4) >> #5
FWIW, CA-1s at OHSU do liver transplants within the first 6 mos. Not sure how notable that is.
 
UCI
Cedars-Sinai
UTSW
Wash U
UT Houston
Jackson Memorial
Nebraska
UTMB
Ocshner
Arizona

I'm going for private practice, so I felt like UCI's lack of transplants was a non-issue.
 
doing livers as an early CA1 is incredible. I don't have one negative thing to say about the program or department!

Ehhh... you need to understand how to deliver safe anesthesia in the general population and in other big abdominal procedures first. Throwing a green CA-1 in such a case definitely won’t be well-received by the attending who would probably have to stay in the room all the time, plus most residents would have no clue about the complex management as their still probably trying to maximize their intubation and IV skills... not to mention A-like, CVL and potentially TEE skills. For some surgeons liver transplants is no big deal especially with good patient selection, but for most it’s a ridiculous flail with innumerable blood products and coagulopathy.

At my cardiac fellowship we occasionally get CA-1s rotate here, it gets better later in the year as they get more exposure but it does no one any favors to do a cardiac month so soon - you can’t trust them to take in-house airway call alone and the cases they are eligible/able to cover is pretty limited (mostly cath lab, what a time suck).

I know everyone on SDN is all about doing crazy regional as an intern and doing near-complete cardiac independence as a fresh CA-1 but the reality even at big name programs is that it’s unreasonable. These cases MAYBE can be assigned to a (very strong) late CA-1 or more preferable a CA-2/3 who has more knowledge/experience to absorb what is going on. This is preferable to the “deer in headlights” 1:1 supervision where the attending does everything and the CA-1 is scared of his or her own shadow.
 
Ehhh... you need to understand how to deliver safe anesthesia in the general population and in other big abdominal procedures first. Throwing a green CA-1 in such a case definitely won’t be well-received by the attending who would probably have to stay in the room all the time, plus most residents would have no clue about the complex management as their still probably trying to maximize their intubation and IV skills... not to mention A-like, CVL and potentially TEE skills. For some surgeons liver transplants is no big deal especially with good patient selection, but for most it’s a ridiculous flail with innumerable blood products and coagulopathy.

At my cardiac fellowship we occasionally get CA-1s rotate here, it gets better later in the year as they get more exposure but it does no one any favors to do a cardiac month so soon - you can’t trust them to take in-house airway call alone and the cases they are eligible/able to cover is pretty limited (mostly cath lab, what a time suck).

I know everyone on SDN is all about doing crazy regional as an intern and doing near-complete cardiac independence as a fresh CA-1 but the reality even at big name programs is that it’s unreasonable. These cases MAYBE can be assigned to a (very strong) late CA-1 or more preferable a CA-2/3 who has more knowledge/experience to absorb what is going on. This is preferable to the “deer in headlights” 1:1 supervision where the attending does everything and the CA-1 is scared of his or her own shadow.

all fair points.
 
I’m a Canadian M4. I had only two anesthesia interviews because it was a late interest (the rest were EM and a few family). My home program helped a lot. We got our results this week. Matched to Anesthesiology. Thrilled. And a little scared.
 
Plz advice-level 1 with 529, not planning to take the steps. Extended research exp. Have already MD degree from Europe, long time ago passed all usmle steps, did not get residency. Now in DO school, citizen (so visa is no more an issue).Aiming for Anest residency (acgme, aoa). What r my chances, tnx..
 
Plz advice-level 1 with 529, not planning to take the steps. Extended research exp. Have already MD degree from Europe, long time ago passed all usmle steps, did not get residency. Now in DO school, citizen (so visa is no more an issue).Aiming for Anest residency (acgme, aoa). What r my chances, tnx..

Why are you going through med school again?? Shouldn’t your European MD be recognized?
 
Plz advice-level 1 with 529, not planning to take the steps. Extended research exp. Have already MD degree from Europe, long time ago passed all usmle steps, did not get residency. Now in DO school, citizen (so visa is no more an issue).Aiming for Anest residency (acgme, aoa). What r my chances, tnx..

Most programs will want to see USMLE numbers. I am sure there are some who got in with only COMLEX but every DO we interviewed (large academic program) had USMLEs (and had to be 10-15 points higher on average than allopathic grads).

Also the double medical degree strikes me as odd as well.

EDIT: read again and saw you graduated a long time ago and took all the steps. I haven’t run into that issue really as most IMGs with lots of years of grad behind them are essentially limited to community FM/Psych/PM&R programs. You are definitely in a unique position, but that’s a LOT of schooling just to get a US residency.
 
Why are you going through med school again?? Shouldn’t your European MD be recognized?
No pall, nothing is "recognized" in d us.
I had to take the steps, apply for residency. Could not match where I wanted, so I started med school. Now 15 months from graduation looking for advice so I wont end up, at the losing side again. Tnx 🙂
 
What is so absurd about rankings is what anesthesia program you come from is in the big scheme of things totally irrelevant unless you are solely seeking an academic position. Ultimately the only people who care about which program they graduated from are the pompous asses that continually drop the name of their program in conversation. No one cares. Just get the training, do your job, and LIVE!
 
What is so absurd about rankings is what anesthesia program you come from is in the big scheme of things totally irrelevant unless you are solely seeking an academic position. Ultimately the only people who care about which program they graduated from are the pompous asses that continually drop the name of their program in conversation. No one cares. Just get the training, do your job, and LIVE!

Sounds like someone didn't go to Penn
 
The advice was to take step 1....too late for that.

I took step 1 this past July as a fourth year, then took CK 3 months later. You just need to figure out what you're willing to do to be competitive.

Because according to page 17 of this (http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Charting-Outcomes-US-Osteopathic-2016.pdf) your comlex isn't too competetive for Anesthesia.

I'm not trying to be negative or bully you. I just don't want you to be like my classmate (who scored >590 on both) and sitting with 6 ranks right now.

edit: Wait a minute. You said you already took and passed the USMLE steps. What were your scores?
 
Last edited:
Stop ruining this thread
You know, when I come here I am reading and hoping to get an advice, from the top 5% the intelligence of the society, from ppl who are more succesful than me. And then when I read this "give me advice also I don't want your advice", I ask myslef, why? Why would anyone instead to give an advice or at least make a positive comment have to be so cinical.
I guess I am at the wrong place pall.
 
You know, when I come here I am reading and hoping to get an advice, from the top 5% the intelligence of the society, from ppl who are more succesful than me. And then when I read this "give me advice also I don't want your advice", I ask myslef, why? Why would anyone instead to give an advice or at least make a positive comment have to be so cinical.
I guess I am at the wrong place pall.

Yes, you are! This is the rank list thread and I am very close to deleting it because I am sick of your whining.
 
You know, when I come here I am reading and hoping to get an advice, from the top 5% the intelligence of the society, from ppl who are more succesful than me. And then when I read this "give me advice also I don't want your advice", I ask myslef, why? Why would anyone instead to give an advice or at least make a positive comment have to be so cinical.
I guess I am at the wrong place pall.

Are you stoned?
 
OK, I'll bite. Instead of sharing my rank list, a lot of which depended on personal factors (like family), I'll share what I would've ranked if it was based purely on how much I liked the program.

Brigham and Women's Hospital
Pros: Reputation speaks for itself. Many faculty are really big names in the specialty. Culture is very friendly and supportive. Boston is a great city with a TON of academic medicine resources and contacts.
Cons: No trauma or liver transplants. Since Boston has many hospitals, they all seem to "fight" for volume and big cases.

Johns Hopkins
Pros: Reputation. Pretty much strong clinically in everything. Lots of structured education time (i.e, academic days). PD seems like an incredible resident advocate.
Cons: Location. If the program wasn't so flawless otherwise, Baltimore would probably be a deal-breaker. Some residents said it wasn't uncommon to be relieved late (6:00-7:00pm or later) several days per month.

Duke
Pros: Great clinical training in everything, especially cardiac, critical care, regional. Very close-knit culture. Affordable cost of living, especially compared to most top programs in bigger cities. Residents not primary workforce. Lots of support for resident wellness.
Cons: Area feels very suburban.

Stanford
Pros: Faculty are very well-known and well-connected in their fields. Lots of ties to the university's academic/research resources and the nearby Silicon Valley entrepreneurship/innovation scene. New adult and peds hospitals currently under construction.
Cons: High cost of living. Few CRNAs, so residents are the main workforce. Not much protected time for education (15min./day).

UCSF
Pros: Great clinical training. Lots of hospitals = high volume and exposure to different settings and populations (academic vs. county/safety net). Options to do specialized 'tracks' in global health, medical education, translational research, etc.
Cons: Insanely high cost of living. Program acknowledges that culture/wellness have not been valued enough in the past, and is upfront that they're working on fixing that. Residents seem to work harder than at most other programs.

Columbia
Pros: Top-tier reputation. Strong training across the board, especially critical care, cardiac, and peds. Lots of support for resident research.
Cons: Cost of living, though the CUMC area is a little less expensive and residents are paid enough to make ends meet. Lots of complaints from residents about poor ancillary staff. Weird that PD is not involved in interview day. Faculty interviewer said didactics not as strong.
(Heard lots of applicants on the trail say the culture here was cold/cutthroat, but I didn't see that at all.)

Penn
Pros: Great cardiac and peds training, in particular. Strong reputation. Lots of interdisciplinary research programs and institutes compared to other more 'siloed' universities.
Cons: Met a number of residents who complained about feeling overworked. Somewhat turned off by how much people bragged about the Penn name.

Vanderbilt
Pros: Huge catchment area, which means residents see all the "big cases" within a several-hour radius. Nashville is a mid-sized, up-and-coming city. Program sees itself as a leader in periop./ERAS. Would definitely be well-trained and happy here.
Cons: Lack of diversity, though in fairness, the program acknowledges this directly during the interview day and seems interested in improving it. Has an SRNA training program.

Wash U
Pros: Large catchment area. High volume of big cases. Hospital campus is yuuuge. Most residents live close to the hospital for very affordable rates.
Cons: St. Louis is a mixed bag; some areas seem 'up-and-coming,' others very run-down. Few residents from "top" med schools. Outgoing PD was awkward; did not get to meet incoming PD during interview.

BIDMC
Pros: Good training. Access to Harvard academic/research connections. Really liked PD and chair.
Cons: Like other Boston programs, seems to split major cases with other hospitals. Have to go outside of system to get some cases, like certain transplants. Lots of OB call.

I interviewed at a lot of those places a year ago and I have to say your thoughts are spot-on with my own impressions 👍
 
Top