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Here is the latest ADA released 2017 DAT Guide. There is a lot of valuable information and it will answer a lot of your questions concerning the DAT.

Good luck to everyone in your studies and on the DAT

Nancy
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Hi Nancy

What has exactly changed? From what I read I understand they removed trigonometry & geometry form the math part. Which is good, less math is always a good thing : ] .
 
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BioTic said:
Hi Nancy

What has exactly changed? From what I read I understand they removed trigonometry & geometry form the math part. Which is good, less math is always a good thing : ] .
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This is still posted on the website.
Please note that all DAT content changes indicated in Volumes 4 and 5 of the DAT Newsletters will no longer be implemented. This includes changes to the Biology, Quantitative Reasoning, and Critical Thinking sections.

I am contacting the ADA now for clarification and make sure there is not an clerical error in the guide. ADA has been knows to make some errors.

Will post back soon with updated information.

Nancy
 
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orgoman22 said:
This is still posted on the website.
Please note that all DAT content changes indicated in Volumes 4 and 5 of the DAT Newsletters will no longer be implemented. This includes changes to the Biology, Quantitative Reasoning, and Critical Thinking sections.

I am contacting the ADA now for clarification and make sure there is not an clerical error in the guide. ADA has been knows to make some errors.

Will post back soon with updated information.

Nancy
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Thank you so much for looking into this for us!!!
 
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BioTic said:
Hypothetically speaking if they did remove some trig & geometry, when would that go into effect?
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I have talked to several of my classroom students who have taken the test in recent days,trig and geometry was on their version of the DAT.

I did talk to someone on the phone about this and told I will get a return call. I will follow up again in the morning.
 
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orgoman22 said:
I have talked to several of my classroom students who have taken the test in recent days,trig and geometry was on their version of the DAT.

I did talk to someone on the phone about this and told I will get a return call. I will follow up again in the morning.
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It maybe hasn't went into full effect yet.
 
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BioTic said:
Hi Nancy

What has exactly changed? From what I read I understand they removed trigonometry & geometry form the math part. Which is good, less math is always a good thing : ] .
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I feel you should still be ready for trig and geometry. Might show up indirectly.
 
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Looks like it will be a waiting game again. Your guess is as good as mine on exactly when this will take place. They have indicated for many years a possible change to QR and then it never occurs. Below is the email response I received. I will monitor the situation and post as soon as I receive updated info.

Nancy

"That is not a clerical error. Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

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Thank you so much for looking into that Nancy. It is interesting that they are "taking it out". I am curious though if studying it and knowing trig and geometry would still help with the style of questions that they intend to ask.
 
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orgoman22 said:
Looks like it will be a waiting game again. Your guess is as good as mine on exactly when this will take place. They have indicated for many years a possible change to QR and then it never occurs. Below is the email response I received. I will monitor the situation and post as soon as I receive updated info.

Nancy

"That is not a clerical error. Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

Test Administration Associate
Department of Testing Services
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looks like I should be fine for my test in February since it's still first quarter.
 
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I also heard they're adding something else to the math section... I forget what it's called :-(
 
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I know @orgoman22 said they are no longer using any updates from Volume 4 or 5 of the DAT newsletter, but in Volume 5 Number 1, the describe quantitative comparisons as including, but is not limited to, conversions; probability and statistics; geometry; and trigonometry. If this is still accurate, then Trig and Geometry will still be on the test.
 
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Crithu said:
I know @orgoman22 said they are no longer using any updates from Volume 4 or 5 of the DAT newsletter, but in Volume 5 Number 1, the describe quantitative comparisons as including, but is not limited to, conversions; probability and statistics; geometry; and trigonometry. If this is still accurate, then Trig and Geometry will still be on the test.
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It's anyone's guess at this point, but below is what I received directly from the ADA testing center.

"That is not a clerical error. Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

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orgoman22 said:
It's anyone's guess at this point, but below is what I received directly from the ADA testing center.

"That is not a clerical error. Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

Test Administration Associate
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Good to know! Thanks for finding this out.
 
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orgoman22 said:
It's anyone's guess at this point, but below is what I received directly from the ADA testing center.

"That is not a clerical error. Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

Test Administration Associate
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Is QR the only section changing? I've only been studying with 2016 DAT Destroyer and Math Destroyer...
 
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DarkVoid11 said:
Is QR the only section changing? I've only been studying with 2016 DAT Destroyer and Math Destroyer...
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The QR is the only section they are indicating and I am not 100 percent convinced the QR will change. They have made the same statements before and did not change. Unfortunately it's just a wait and see game.

Wish I knew more..will keep updating as I get information.

Nancy
 
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orgoman22 said:
The QR is the only section they are indicating and I am not 100 percent convinced the QR will change. They have made the same statements before and did not change. Unfortunately it's just a wait and see game.

Wish I knew more..will keep updating as I get information.

Nancy
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Thanks for the updates Nancy!
 
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So awesome of you, Nancy, to look out for the DAT test-takers like this!
 
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My instructor (who also contacted the ADA) has received the same info about trig and geometry being taken out of the QR section - but that dimensional analysis would be implemented...


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krvstak said:
My instructor (who also contacted the ADA) has received the same info about trig and geometry being taken out of the QR section - but that dimensional analysis would be implemented...


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The problem is no one knows when or if it will change. I am monitoring it closely and as of yesterday trig and geometry remains on the DAT and nothing new has been implemented.

This has been going for close to 7 years ..ADA states changes will occur and then they don't .

It's a wait and see game and I am certain the ADA will make an announcement and give students time to study properly if and when it should change.

Nancy
 
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orgoman22 said:
The problem is no one knows when or if it will change. I am monitoring it closely and as of yesterday trig and geometry remains on the DAT and nothing new has been implemented.

This has been going for close to 7 years ..ADA states changes will occur and then they don't .

It's a wait and see game and I am certain the ADA will make an announcement and give students time to study properly if and when it should change.

Nancy
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Well they said until the 2nd quarter so I doubt it change in a few weeks, maybe after 3 months.
 
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I will be taking my exam in August and was wondering how I should go about planning for this. Currently, I am going to plan that trig and geometry will be included in the test. I don't plan to really start quantitative for a few months yet as I am trying to relearn Biology, GenChem and OChem. Do I plan to "waste" time on learning it and prepping for that material or do I plan to study around that until a little closer to exam date and then brush up on those topics should they remain? Any suggestions would be great.
 
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Bingwen said:
I will be taking my exam in August and was wondering how I should go about planning for this. Currently, I am going to plan that trig and geometry will be included in the test. I don't plan to really start quantitative for a few months yet as I am trying to relearn Biology, GenChem and OChem. Do I plan to "waste" time on learning it and prepping for that material or do I plan to study around that until a little closer to exam date and then brush up on those topics should they remain? Any suggestions would be great.
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I would just wait and see..
 
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I would be SHOCKED if they took trig and geometry out. Those are two of the most fundamental concepts that kids should take away from junior high and high school math courses. I feel as if those 2 topics accounted for at least 25% of my QR in one way or another. They can just show up in so many different ways. It will be interesting to see if this is true. Definitely study as if it will be on the test even if you have doubts.
 
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bentley13 said:
I would be SHOCKED if they took trig and geometry out. Those are two of the most fundamental concepts that kids should take away from junior high and high school math courses. I feel as if those 2 topics accounted for at least 25% of my QR in one way or another. They can just show up in so many different ways. It will be interesting to see if this is true. Definitely study as if it will be on the test even if you have doubts.
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Agree!
 
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orgoman22 said:
Agree!
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Did you guys see the new update on DAT guide 2017? They made the optional break to now 15 minutes! and the QR section doesn't have geometry or trig. I don't know what to do because my test is 12 days..
 
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DarkVoid11 said:
Did you guys see the new update on DAT guide 2017? They made the optional break to now 15 minutes! and the QR section doesn't have geometry or trig. I don't know what to do because my test is 12 days..
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Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

Test Administration Associate
Department of Testing Services
 
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orgoman22 said:
Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

Test Administration Associate
Department of Testing Services
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Is anything else changing on the other sections? Like for Biology or organic?
 
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Just bringing this back up as a few people that I know who took the DAT have mentioned that they didn't get any trigonometry or geometry questions... it's also not listed in the ADA's DAT 2017 program guide


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I took my exam yesterday, April 3rd. I didn't see any trigonometry or geometry on mine. I wish I did :(. My QR section was out of this world. Awful. But I can't complain now. It's all done
 
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I-hate-alginate said:
I took my exam yesterday, April 3rd. I didn't see any trigonometry or geometry on mine. I wish I did :(. My QR section was out of this world. Awful. But I can't complain now. It's all done
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Shoot. I hear the new stuff is similar to GRE quantitative comparison (from people whom have also taken it April 3rd) guess all my geometry/trigonometry studying may have been a waste...


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orgoman22 said:
Due changing test specifications there will be a change to the Quantitative Reasoning section on DAT in 2017 and it will no longer contain geometry and trig. But, that will not happen until the 2nd quarter. We do not have a specific date but it will be no earlier than April.

I believe they are working on updating the guides to explain this and provide a specific date of implementation. Thanks."

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Just curious....What is replacing geometry and trig?
 
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This....
"Questions of this type ask you to compare two quantities — Quantity A and Quantity B — and then determine which of the following statements describes the comparison:

Quantity A is greater.Quantity B is greater.The two quantities are equal.The relationship cannot be determined from the information given."

Good amount of them
 
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I-hate-alginate said:
This....
"Questions of this type ask you to compare two quantities — Quantity A and Quantity B — and then determine which of the following statements describes the comparison:

Quantity A is greater.Quantity B is greater.The two quantities are equal.The relationship cannot be determined from the information given."

Good amount of them
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what math class does this type of question mostly appear in?
 
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orgoman22 said:
Nothing has been mentioned as of yet, but with the ADA it is always a wait and see game. I will post any information as soon as I get it.

Nancy
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Has anyone after April 2017 seen Trig. or Geometry in the QR section? Is it worth studying for, since ADA didn't mention it in their QR topics and since your email confirmed this. Thanks!
 
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Has anyone after April 2017 seen Trig. or Geometry in the QR section? Is it worth studying for, since ADA didn't mention it in their QR topics and since your email confirmed this. Thanks!
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Yes Trig and Geometry are still seen in some versions. Students have also been presented Trig and Geo in the new QC problems. Unfortunately you must study all these if you want a good QR score.

See the attached problems if you missed it in other threads.

Wishing you the best..

Nancy
 

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orgoman22 said:
Yes Trig and Geometry are still seen in some versions. Students have also been presented Trig and Geo in the new QC problems. Unfortunately you must study all these if you want a good QR score.

See the attached problems if you missed it in other threads.

Wishing you the best..

Nancy
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Thanks so much!
 
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orgoman22 said:
Yes Trig and Geometry are still seen in some versions. Students have also been presented Trig and Geo in the new QC problems. Unfortunately you must study all these if you want a good QR score.

See the attached problems if you missed it in other threads.

Wishing you the best..

Nancy
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Dang it I have the2017 math destroyer. Do I need to buy a new one to get questions like this?
 
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