2nd look

[cellioholic]

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I was just wondering, what am I suppose to wear to a 2nd look? Am I suppose to wear an interview suit, or shirt, slacks, and my white coat?😕

 

[jay dub]

Personally, when I did second looks I wore professional type attire, but I didn't feel obligated to wear the whole interview suit get-up again. The program had already seen it... 🙂 But I would wear something professional. Don't think I would wear the white coat, though. I know that as a resident if I saw a candidate at my program for a second look I'd think it kind of odd if he/she was wearing a white coat. Wouldn't find it at all odd if he/she was wearing slacks, button down shirt, tie/nice skirt and blouse (would be weird if HE came wearing a skirt, though... 😀 ). Probably depends on the fashion-tenor of the program (i.e. is this a place where all the docs in the hospital were wearing three piece suits when you interviewed? or is the general dress khakis and a button down shirt?). Most important thing to wear to second looks: a smile (how cheezy!!!! I should have handed out barf bags with that one...). 😛

 

[drmistga]

Why risk it-many old-school or east coast especially types but old schoolers can be anywherein the country-would probably expect a suit and would never say so but inside I know as a person who was in the business world-important meetings or stuff like this-why risk not wearing a nice suit and tie? Dressing up is never inappropriate whereas dressing down-you never know with some of the tight wads out there! I am just saying if your there for a 2nd look-you must want to go there so why lose any points to anyone.,

 

[Chewbacca Jung]

A slightly different quenstion that I think fits this thread,

How important is a second look?

 

[maranatha]

How important is a second look?

I'm going to a couple of programs for myself and my wife--to help us determine how to rank the programs. I want to talk to a few people in the department that have similar interests as well as get a better feel for the city.

 

[Chewbacca Jung]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca Jung View Post
How important is a second look?

I ask this, because we have all been taught in med school that the more tests you run on a patient, the more likely you are to get an abnormal result that you won't know what to do with. I think every program has its bad apples, and they can only keep them away from the applicants for so long. The more direct contact you have with the program the more likely you are to run into them. Not only that, but it increases the chances that the program will unearth those skeletons in your closet.

I prefer to maintain a healthy distance as much as possible and email or call those who I specifically want to talk to.

I mean how much are you really going to gain in a 2nd, 3rd, 4th... visit that you did not already get on a 1st visit-- exept discovering where the mad psychiatrist works so you can avoid that rotation at all costs.

Though I do concede your point, maranatha, a wife's point of view is probably worth the visit.

 

[maranatha]

Discovering that mad psychiatrist is worth it to me! You're right that my mind may not be pursuaded too much on the second look or that I might not learn much....I'm going to make sure my original hypothosis of the programs was not a fluke. It's also a good excuse to get out of my ED rotation for a few days! LOL...

 

[Ptel7479]

I got a good idea! If you're wondering what to wear for the second look, why not ask the program coordinator? It has been my experience that they will often gladly volunteer this info without even being asked!
If you dont feel comfortable doing this, just find out what you'll be doing during the 2nd look...are you following a resident around? are you sitting in on their grand rounds and or didactics? dress how the residents dress (within professional reason though)
As for the debate whether 2nd looks are important...good question! I don't know, but my personal experience has been that I went back to 2 of my top choice programs that I was initially impressed with, only to seriously rethink ranking them highly. In one case, I was very unimpressed with their didactics...in the second case I was seriously unimpressed with their residents (the quality of the questions they asked and answers they gave during one of the classes made me think that they may not be learning all that much). Plus the PD, who was giving one of the classes snapped and yelled at the residents as if he were a teacher calling for silence in a grae school class!!!!
So I will be avoiding any more 2nd looks...unless personally invited by the PD (which makes it really difficult to say no without seeming uninterested in the program)...
Hope this helps you guys!!!

 

[sga430]

i went to my first 2nd look. unfortunately i was a lil late but the PD knew it was because i tried takin public transport which is hit or miss where i was at. i hope it doesnt reflect too badly. he seemed ok.

anyhow the 2nd look clarified some things but in some ways confused me more. what i liked about the program i liked even more and what i disliked about the program i disliked even more.

i am not sure what to do as this program is practically tied for #1 on my ROL with another one. also if one were to look at my RoL, one would be confused what type of psychiatrist i wannna be as some r academic and some are community based. it alternates and also the locale does as well back and forth. however i feel i would be relatively happy at any of my top 10-12.

 

[Chinnychin]

I think it would be really interesting to do a study on applicants who take second looks and how it effects their ROL or their thoughts before the second look and after and see how many actually changed their mind DUE to the second look-either way disliked or liked a program more.

There has been data and I think this situation is very similar to-changing an answer on multiple choice tests. When someone is not sure of an answer it has been shown that their first guess/choice is right more often than when they change it. I know this happens to me a ton-