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When your doctor diagnosis you with 301.8 what does it mean exactly?
I know it is a code for a personality disorder, but, which one?:scared:
 
linebored said:
When your doctor diagnosis you with 301.8 what does it mean exactly?
I know it is a code for a personality disorder, but, which one?:scared:
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I guess it all depends on whether your doctor loves you or not. 😍

Welcome back linebored, long time no see. 🙂

But to answer your question 301.8 is not quite complete, as I'm sure you know. 301.81, 301.82 or 301.83 are completely separate entities. Are you behind door number 3?
 
Milo said:
I guess it all depends on whether your doctor loves you or not. 😍

Welcome back linebored, long time no see. 🙂

But to answer your question 301.8 is not quite complete, as I'm sure you know. 301.81, 301.82 or 301.83 are completely separate entities. Are you behind door number 3?
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Completely separate???
Sounds like diagnostic shorthand for Cluster B traits...
 
OldPsychDoc said:
Completely separate???
Sounds like diagnostic shorthand for Cluster B traits...
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You'd think so wouldn't you? However, they've lumped 2 Bs and a C in that last 'suffix'.

Narcissistic

Borderline

Avoidant 😕

ASPD is housed separately, (perhaps in solitary confinement?) at a 301.7 address.
 
While on the subject, don't you think it is just way too mean to leave dep PD all alone at 301.6? It's like forced therapy for the diagnosis.

Avoidant PD has been forced into a group therapy arrangement with 301.81 and 301.82 I don't think that 301.83 is happy about that one bit.

But is the poor lonely 301.6 invited? No! Will leaving it cold and alone in the DSM reduce his need for reassurance or make it easier for her to make decisions on her own? I don't think so.

End the tyranny! Change 301.6 to 301.84!!!
 
Milo said:
While on the subject, don't you think it is just way too mean to leave dep PD all alone at 301.6? It's like forced therapy for the diagnosis.

Avoidant PD has been forced into a group therapy arrangement with 301.81 and 301.82 I don't think that 301.83 is happy about that one bit.

But is the poor lonely 301.6 invited? No! Will leaving it cold and alone in the DSM reduce his need for reassurance or make it easier for her to make decisions on her own? I don't think so.

End the tyranny! Change 301.6 to 301.84!!!
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I'd say it's therapeutic for 301.83 to be housed with the other two - it'll bring him out of his shell.
 
Doc Samson said:
I'd say it's therapeutic for 301.83 to be housed with the other two - it'll bring him out of his shell.
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I think you mean 301.82. That's even worse because it's wedged right between 301.81 and 301.83. Interpersonal exploitation to the left, affective instability to the right! What a nightmare!

While I certainly agree with you that it is therapeutic treatment I am skeptical about its voluntary nature. If it's not voluntary treatment then where's the court order?
 
Hi Milo

Thank you for the lovely welcome 🙂

No good news..
My doctor.. Well, he never proposes me... So far...

To tell you the truth here, Portugal, the patient diagnosis is rarely disclosure by doctors…, which I can understand in a way and I pose here this question:

Do you think that patients benefit from not knowing their diagnosis or not, should it be therapeutic not knowing or the opposite?
(My opinion is that in the US, you need to know your diagnosis for insurance policies and maybe that is the main reason for a disclosure of that.)

I found it myself by accident.
Some students were making a statistic study about how do we patients find the hospital, doctors, and staff and so on.
I filled it and at the end they told me I should put my process number on the sheet, which I disagree… because it should stay confidential, so, the student came with me to the desk and asked for the codes of my diagnosis.. (They told me it would change the statistic dramatically if a schizophrenic fills it, or a bipolar, etc. and they need the code)
et voilá.. Against my doctors will I finally knew what he thinks about me! I’m a 301.8!!

I cannot wait for the “confrontation” on the next appointment… what am I!? :scared:
 
Voce e uma mulher. Ninguem e um numero. Nao se preocupe sobre um codigo diagnostico.
 
It's simply unethical in the states to withhold a diagnosis, but ethics are made to be broken, since most of the folks that formulate our ethics can be short-sighted monkeys who skimp on nuance.

The diagnostic code used for billing and the actual content of your clinical case may have very little to do with each other. A 301.8 avoids assigning an Axis 1 disorder, and that may be the only intent of your clinician. Or you might be a raging schizoid borderline, who knows 🙂
 
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