3rd year and alcohol use

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Brain Bucket said:
Agreed. Now go preach elsewhere.
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To be fair, I don't believe @neusu is preaching. As a neurosurgeon in a neurosurgery residency he knows what true stress is. If the OP believes MS-3 is stressful (which it is) to where he says his alcohol use has gone up dramatically, then residency, in which you have actual clinical responsibility will make MS-3 look like a walk in the park.
 
This thread has got me craving mad. Been lip smacking like I'm on metoclopramide. I agree with whoever said they're drinking more alone now. This is probably a problem but you can't get help as a med student or you can be screwed when you apply to residency. I resigned myself to the fact that I've been relatively competent during third yr so I can't be too bad

I was drinking jack Daniels and coke in a 7-11 50oz cup. Ps why am I lying awake in the middle of the night
 
DermViser said:
To be fair, I don't believe @neusu is preaching. As a neurosurgeon in a neurosurgery residency he knows what true stress is. If the OP believes MS-3 is stressful (which it is) to where he says his alcohol use has gone up dramatically, then residency, in which you have actual clinical responsibility will make MS-3 look like a walk in the park.
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I know stress/responsibility goes up every year, that's how life works. Still sounds preachy. And it's a buzzkill.

Dr. Yes said:
JW Red: Great for the 'friend' you don't really like
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I wouldn't give it to the person I disliked most. I think my dislike for Red is so great because when people'd come over, they'd have black, and when I went to their place, they'd be like 'Oh, you like JW, right?' And pull out a bottle of Red. I couldn't refuse the drink or I'd be that dingus. They weren't even ****ing with me, they just didn't know any better.
 
Red, is crap, drink it and you'll feel it. If you're at a bar for scotch and soda, Dewars is okay. For single malt drinkers try this: Famous Grouse, it's a blend, but it's aged in the same casks as Macallan. Red will make you feel like **** the next day. Which brings me to the post concerned overuse of ETOH. Listen: If you're concerned, I've already mentioned one path. Here's another: Buy a bottle of Pappy, (an excellent gift even for scotch drinkers) and strictly dole it out to yourself (who shares their good stash with non-bros?). I assure you, you'll make it last. When you set out on doing some boozing, it's always good to keep in mind how lousy you might feel tomorrow. Cheap booze has a way of wrecking the following day. If you wake up with tremors, rent: Leaving Las Vegas, and start freaking out. Dr. Bucket is correct, it's poor etiquette to refuse drink, especially if your host recalls [imprecisely] your brand.
 
Someone told me back in college that you can't be an alcoholic if you're in college. It's only if you graduate and you keep drinking as much that you can garner the title.

I like to think the exemption carries over into med school. Just like how you can't Dx Antisocial Disorder until > 18 yrs.

Yep. *swig of beer*
 
Rendar5 said:
Drinking as an attending is better 🙂View attachment 180653
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Oh, this stuff?

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us brown people drink it like water. and by "us" I mean the men. I think it tastes like crap. that ^ was a present for someone.
 
Rendar5 said:
Now we are showing off cars too I see? Maybe I should put my bottle in my wife's car
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Haha. No. That's actually a year old pix I posted in the lounge somewhere that I found when I saw this.

Don't worry, no ones trying to outshine your awesome attending alcohol collection or your awesome attending cars.
 
kirbymiester said:
Someone told me back in college that you can't be an alcoholic if you're in college. It's only if you graduate and you keep drinking as much that you can garner the title.

I like to think the exemption carries over into med school. Just like how you can't Dx Antisocial Disorder until > 18 yrs.

Yep. *swig of beer*
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that's reassuring. maker's mark
 
drinking regularly will ruin all your gains brah

i'm more worried about the solitary drinking

what mental thoughts are you trying to quell with alcohol?
 
JP2740 said:
The thought that tomorrow is not a new day; it is another day of labor and delivery
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Perhaps you didn't know this, but being on L&D precludes an EtOH abuse/addiction diagnosis. I read it in DSM-5.


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NickNaylor said:
Perhaps you didn't know this, but being on L&D precludes an EtOH abuse/addiction diagnosis. I read it in DSM-5.
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I would say being on OB-Gyn in general, precludes EtOH abuse/addiction diagnosis, esp. if you're male or a pretty female.
 
Fancymylotus: No no, you can. I opened that bag of worms.
 
JP2740 said:
This thread has got me craving mad. Been lip smacking like I'm on metoclopramide. I agree with whoever said they're drinking more alone now. This is probably a problem but you can't get help as a med student or you can be screwed when you apply to residency. I resigned myself to the fact that I've been relatively competent during third yr so I can't be too bad

I was drinking jack Daniels and coke in a 7-11 50oz cup. Ps why am I lying awake in the middle of the night
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Let's take a quick look at the above: craving mad, lip smacking, drink more alone, probably a problem, can't get help or you'll be screwed (worse, I assume), resigned, relatively competent, can't be too bad.

Oh, wait, also 50 oz basin of cocktail and lying awake at night.

As someone who has been married to a highly-functional heavy- drinking person for over a decade (ok, anecdotal but tons of Al-Anon meetings, counseling and a little substance-abuse course in college can't all be off-base), I promise you that continued use is a serious drag for everyone in your life. Think, future spouse. Think children. Think residents and patients. Think parents and siblings, unless they're drinkers themselves.

Everyone has stress, pain and fear in our lives. Every. Single. One. How we deal with it is our decision and affects everything else.

Clearly, you've already been judged as a highly-competent person with huge potential. So go fulfill it.

Take up jogging or kayaking or photography or ceramics. Go rock climbing or sweat until you bleed in a gym. Just find some sort of stress-release that will ultimately improve the quality of your life, not take it from you.

Life is short. Life is precious. And none of us lives in a vacuum.

If I'm preachy, so be it. I've earned it.

For the rest of you, enjoy your moderate drinking. For those who know it's more than that, don't wait. Get anonymous help now. It is there and it will not screw you, certainly not more than you will screw yourself.

If you still feel hopeless, PM me. You're too young to feel that way.
 
And JP2740, I'm not trying to pick on you. Just trying to encourage you to reach out now, before later comes.
 
VCorp said:
Do you ever feel guilty about your drinking?
Do people tell you to cut back on it?
Do you ever need alcohol in the morning as an eye opener?
Forgot the last question...
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Was waiting for this one... Lol

Could you give me a scale 1-10 on your interest in cutting back/quitting? Why did you choose that number instead of a lower number?

...

Stout. Any stout. Bring on them CYP2E1
 
CaliMac said:
Let's take a quick look at the above: craving mad, lip smacking, drink more alone, probably a problem, can't get help or you'll be screwed (worse, I assume), resigned, relatively competent, can't be too bad.

Oh, wait, also 50 oz basin of cocktail and lying awake at night.

As someone who has been married to a highly-functional heavy- drinking person for over a decade (ok, anecdotal but tons of Al-Anon meetings, counseling and a little substance-abuse course in college can't all be off-base), I promise you that continued use is a serious drag for everyone in your life. Think, future spouse. Think children. Think residents and patients. Think parents and siblings, unless they're drinkers themselves.

Everyone has stress, pain and fear in our lives. Every. Single. One. How we deal with it is our decision and affects everything else.

Clearly, you've already been judged as a highly-competent person with huge potential. So go fulfill it.

Take up jogging or kayaking or photography or ceramics. Go rock climbing or sweat until you bleed in a gym. Just find some sort of stress-release that will ultimately improve the quality of your life, not take it from you.

Life is short. Life is precious. And none of us lives in a vacuum.

If I'm preachy, so be it. I've earned it.

For the rest of you, enjoy your moderate drinking. For those who know it's more than that, don't wait. Get anonymous help now. It is there and it will not screw you, certainly not more than you will screw yourself.

If you still feel hopeless, PM me. You're too young to feel that way.
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Now you've got me smacking my lips.
 
CaliMac said:
Well then it has all been worth it 🙂

Enjoy those high-dollar liquors you favor.
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I don't really spend that much on liquor. Mostly I raid my dad's bar. My own bottles rarely exceed 100. Just bought a bottle of Old Pulteney at a friends' insistence. Such a disappointment. Back to the £40 bottle of Laphroig. It's nice when you have friends from Scotland flying back and forth every other weekend.

Priapism4tooLong said:
I want to see your cars
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The richest people I know drive Volvos, Totyas, and Lincolns.
 
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Brain Bucket said:
I don't really spend that much on liquor. Mostly I raid my dad's bar. My own bottles rarely exceed 100. Just bought a bottle of Old Pulteney at a friends' insistence. Such a disappointment. Back to the £40 bottle of Laphroig. It's nice when you have friends from Scotland flying back and forth every other weekend.



The richest people I know drive Volvos, Totyas, and Lincolns.
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Lol @ raiding your dads bar. I imagine that's what my brother does.
 
JP2740 said:
I wouldn't say I'm an alcoholic, but damn my alcohol use has gone up dramatically this year. Is this normal?

To make this thread more fun, post what you're currently drinking. Earlier today, I was having an old fashioned
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Yellow Tail 'Big Bold Red.'
 
To be fair though, 3rd year, you don't have REAL responsibility, so the stress level is very low in that regard. I do empathize with the fact that having your schedule controlled and having long hour rotations such as OB-GYN and Surgery CAN cause stress to your free time and enjoy ability of life. The plus side, is that after you are done with leaving the hospital, there is plenty of time to de-stress, and hitting up a bar with friends isn't a bad option. As long as you drink in moderation(and not get black out drunk, or walk around naked humping parking meters and peeing on old ladies), it's fine.
 
KnuxNole said:
To be fair though, 3rd year, you don't have REAL responsibility, so the stress level is very low in that regard. I do empathize with the fact that having your schedule controlled and having long hour rotations such as OB-GYN and Surgery CAN cause stress to your free time and enjoy ability of life. The plus side, is that after you are done with leaving the hospital, there is plenty of time to de-stress, and hitting up a bar with friends isn't a bad option. As long as you drink in moderation(and not get black out drunk, or walk around naked humping parking meters and peeing on old ladies), it's fine.
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Well, kinda 🙂

The above is true but there is also a huge grey area in there where one can be radically altering one's life course (and that of their loved ones) without acting the fool or blacking out.
 
Speaking of drinking, we got Cinco de Mayo on Monday, who else is going cray cray?
 
southernIM said:
Meh.
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Yea I so badly want to post a picture of my stock which has probably like four times the amount of alcohol than that or more but there's a few ppl at my school who would be able to identify me from it.
 
To answer the original question - Yes, I drank more on a per night basis as a MS3.

My go tos? Fireball and Lionshead.

I keep it on the cheap. Obviously a glass of black label is nice, but I'm not interested in buying the handles myself.
 
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