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4 Months Left Before Applying - What should I be doing?
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Do you have any leadership experience? If not, you could try to look into the various volunteer positions at the hospital or some other extracurricular activities.
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Alright so I have 4 months before applying for the University of Kentucky's early decision deadline.
Here is where I stand:
Cumulative GPA: 3.90
Science GPA: 3.77
PCAT (January 2011): 71 composite
I have been volunteering at a hospital pharmacy about once a week. (Infrequent volunteering 2009-mid 2010; frequent weekly volunteering mid 2010-present)
I plan on committing time everyday towards studying for the PCAT. I did not study for my January 2011 PCAT and am 100% positive that I can greatly raise my score.
Also, I plan on volunteering at the hospital more frequently this summer.
Is there anything more I should do to strengthen my application? I have not had any pharmacy / medical related jobs.. nor have I shadowed a pharmacist. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Try to shadow different types of pharmacists (at places that will let you shadow). Some companies have policies on what you have to do before you are allowed to shadow a pharmacist, so you'll have to look into that.
If you can work in the pharmacy at the hospital where you volunteer, see if you can get a tech license and get hired and trained to start working. IMO, you can learn a lot more as an employee than you would from shadowing and/or volunteering.
Do you have any more pre-requisites to complete? Have you looked at other schools you may want to attend? If so, are you going to try to take additional courses if you have not yet completed the pre-reqs for those schools?
Have you considered where you are going to live and whether or not you'll work when you're in pharmacy school?
When you're volunteering, is it at inpatient or outpatient or somewhere else? How much interaction do you have with other healthcare professionals?
What kinds of previous work experience do you have? Have you had jobs where you had to supervise someone?
I know this seems like a lot of questions, but I'm just trying to have a better idea about your background.
Would you highly recommend this? I have applied for a on-call pharmacy tech position at UK Hospital but I haven't heard a response yet. I haven't been very pro-active about getting a tech position.
I would recommend it if you feel that you can handle it and enjoy it. If you have work experience as a tech and they discuss something in your classes that relates to your work experience, you may find it easier to learn and more interesting to study. That makes pharmacy school more enjoyable, IMO.
I only have microbio left and I'm taking that fall semester. I haven't really looked at any other schools. If I were to not get accepted into pharmacy school I would rather stay at UK for another year to finish my Accounting degree and try again (I'm shoving a lot of business and accounting classes in the next year).
Have you considered any upper level sciences courses, such as molecular cell bio, biochem (for majors), etc? Or are you focusing on finishing your major first?
If I were to get into UK's pharmacy school, I would either 1. live at my parent's home (15 min car drive to pharmacy building) or 2. get an apartment. I probably will not be working while in pharmacy school.
If you can find an employer that would be willing to work with your class schedules with labs and exams, it could work out well for you to work while you are in school. Just remember to not take on more than you can handle. That's important. Extra money is one thing, but you can't let it get in the way of school work.
I volunteer at the pharmacy of a private hospital. I interact often with the techs and pharmacists. However I normally only perform menial tasks that relate to the stocking or packaging of medication. I don't learn much doing the things I do. However, I find the health care related conversations that the pharmacists and techs as very valuable and interesting.
That's great. If you work as a tech, you can be more involved and learn from bringing your own decisions into the conversation if you are directly involved, and you can see how that would help, or you can learn about what you're forgetting to consider.
I worked 2 years ago at a candy store. I assisted customers around the store and also worked the cashier. The past year now I have been working for my dad in his accounting firm (I was thinking about doing accounting for a while). I haven't had a job where I had to supervise someone. However, I have been hired to work as an organic chemistry workshop leader in this coming semester.
Perhaps a side job worth mentioning is that I intend on marketing myself out as a freelance composer for video games and short movies. This is something I have a small passion for and something that I believe helps represent me as a well-rounded individual.
Being a leader of any sort would be a good experience and I'm sure you can learn a lot from that.
It's nice to have hobbies that aren't related to pharmacy, so it'll make for interesting conversations with classmates, and at interview on parts where it seems appropriate.
I guess at this point I am asking.. just how important is it for me to get this tech position in order for me to get into UK's pharmacy school. Will large amounts of volunteering and impressive GPA and PCAT scores (hopefully) be sufficient?
Tech experience is not required, but it can only help you - in so many ways besides just admissions. That said, life is all about choices. It is not a "wrong" choice to do something besides work as a tech.
Thanks for the response crazybob! I really appreciate it.
So from what I've gathered so far, I should definitely:
1. Try to get a tech position
2. Volunteer more
I'm in kind of a predicament right now. This summer, I am 100% most definitely going to dedicate large amounts of time towards volunteering and studying for the PCAT. However, I'm not sure if I want to get a tech position.
The idea of dedicating significant amounts of time towards propelling my freelance composing work and treating it as a real "job" has been very appealing to me. I am wanting to follow my passion for this while also balancing volunteering and studying for the PCAT. However, the cost for this would be to give up the possibility of having a full-time or part-time tech position. (though I would love to get this on-call position the hospital has open..)
I guess at this point I am asking.. just how important is it for me to get this tech position in order for me to get into UK's pharmacy school. Will large amounts of volunteering and impressive GPA and PCAT scores (hopefully) be sufficient?
I'm not sure how the interviews at UK are, so I'll let people at UK or ones who have applied to UK answer that.
Having tech experience and being able to discuss what you have learned is valuable. If you can pick up on exactly what the pharmacist does every single day, then you could also discuss what you learned from that and also what the pharmacist does in that setting. If you have a pretty good idea of what a pharmacist does and you can explain why you want to be a pharmacist, it'll be good.
Impressive GPA and PCAT are a plus,, but you have to remember the interview is important. You have to consider what you'll say and how you'll say it.
This is my opinion and feel free to not read it, but if you work even part-time as a tech and still study for the PCAT, you could ask people at work about what they did to study for the PCAT and what helped them. So then you can get an idea of what helps some people and what doesn't, so you can try to focus your studying to what helps you the most.
I'll second this. It's cool that you want to get an accounting degree but if getting into school is your priority then those upper level sciences will look much better than a bunch of business classes.Have you considered any upper level sciences courses, such as molecular cell bio, biochem (for majors), etc? Or are you focusing on finishing your major first?
Thanks for the response crazybob! I really appreciate it.
So from what I've gathered so far, I should definitely:
1. Try to get a tech position
2. Volunteer more
I'm in kind of a predicament right now. This summer, I am 100% most definitely going to dedicate large amounts of time towards volunteering and studying for the PCAT. However, I'm not sure if I want to get a tech position.
The idea of dedicating significant amounts of time towards propelling my freelance composing work and treating it as a real "job" has been very appealing to me. I am wanting to follow my passion for this while also balancing volunteering and studying for the PCAT. However, the cost for this would be to give up the possibility of having a full-time or part-time tech position. (though I would love to get this on-call position the hospital has open..)
I guess at this point I am asking.. just how important is it for me to get this tech position in order for me to get into UK's pharmacy school. Will large amounts of volunteering and impressive GPA and PCAT scores (hopefully) be sufficient?
At UK, there is a group interview portion (4 interviewers and 4 applicants) and an individual portion. I felt like my tech experience was extremely helpful during both portions, but I would have been screwed during the group interview without it. I don't want to go into too much detail, but they asked us hypothetical questions about issues facing pharmacy and I made some sort of reference to my tech experience in almost every answer I gave. There was one guy in my group with zero pharmacy experience and he was like a deer in the headlights. When the inevitable "why pharmacy" question comes up, having first hand experience to rely on gives your answer more weight too, IMO. I don't want you to think you can't get in without working as a tech, because people do it all the time (especially with stats as good as yours), but there is no doubt it gave me an advantage.
I don't like posting on my phone very much. This post took like 10 minutes

Research, and more research! I wasted a lot of money on my application such as applying to schools that I wasn't serious about. I only knew about SDN half-way through my application process, if I had known sooner I probably would have saved some $. Apparently you're more prepared than I was but it's still benefitial to find out more before you start your cash burning road.
Your GPA and sGPA are pretty solid. I'd say if you can, get a little more volunteer in different aspects of pharmacy. If you can volunteer in an industrial pharmacy, go ahead and do it.
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I'm just going to throw this out there, but upper level science courses are not needed to get into pharmacy, especially with the poster's 3.9 GPA and solid science GPA.I'll second this. It's cool that you want to get an accounting degree but if getting into school is your priority then those upper level sciences will look much better than a bunch of business classes.
I think if he wants to get a degree in something other than science, more power to him...it also might help him stand out more from the other applicants.
Science is never a bad thing to major in, but the idea you need to be a science major to get into pharmacy school or medicine just isn't true.
Not only that, but accounting is *really fundamental* for business in general. He could certainly use this knowledge within pharmacy.
Obviously anything beyond the minimum prerequisites is technically "not needed." But any advisor will tell you how good upper level biochemistry/biology/chemistry classes look, especially if they are relevant to what you will be studying. It shows a certain amount of dedication to the field you are going into that you just can't achieve by taking business classes.I'm just going to throw this out there, but upper level science courses are not needed to get into pharmacy, especially with the poster's 3.9 GPA and solid science GPA.
I think if he wants to get a degree in something other than science, more power to him...it also might help him stand out more from the other applicants.
Science is never a bad thing to major in, but the idea you need to be a science major to get into pharmacy school or medicine just isn't true.
Not only that, but accounting is *really fundamental* for business in general. He could certainly use this knowledge within pharmacy.
Not only that but I can't see how going into pharmacy school without taking any sciences for over a year can be a good idea. Just my opinion.
Your adviser is correct. A bachelor's in anything will look good, and business is just as advisable as the hard sciences.I actually asked my advisor about that a while back and she said that it probably wouldn't improve the competitiveness of my application but that it would make me more prepared for pharmacy school.
In any case, my schedule is set for fall semester and if I do get into pharmacy school, I'll definitely keep your advice in mind and possibly take some upper level science classes in the spring
Ask the schools yourself. I'm sure most will concur.
Do you think I could gain enough knowledge to answer those hypothetical questions just by researching on the web and supplementing that info with knowledge I gain while volunteering?
I guess my core question is this: besides money and having "pharmacy technician" on my resume, are there any other benefits to working as a pharm tech that cannot be attained through other means (such as volunteering or researching regularly on the web)
I'm not really sure how much experience a person actually gains from volunteering, so it's hard for me to fully answer that. As a volunteer, are you allowed to do more than just observe? Are you able to get involved in the process of filling prescriptions? Do you handle phone calls from patients, nurses, doctors, etc.? Do you get a feel for what it's like using their computer system? Dealing with insurance issues? Order entry? Talking to patients? Techs do all of those things and more on a regular basis (depending on the setting, hospital vs. retail) and I think that experience, in addition to helping with the interview, should either solidify your interest in pharmacy or help you to realize it isn't for you. I honestly see that as the main benefit of tech experience, and it isn't really something you can learn by reading about pharmacy or possibly even by shadowing.
Also, a quick question about letter of reference. Is it THAT important for whoever writing them to know you very well? For example, I am hoping to have my organic chemistry professor write one of my references but he has some severe eye problem. I doubt he knows what I look like, but I am almost positive that he recognizes my name after me going into his office multiple times throughout the year and looking over my (high) test grades. He knows I am a good student, but not much else.
It helps to have it from someone who can discuss how you are as a person and be very specific. Just knowing your name and face doesn't mean you'd get the LOR that you might want. If the professor knows what kind of student you are and what your interests are, that helps IMO.
If you're involved in clubs, ECs, research, etc, then the prof can probably see more about what all you do.