4th year pimping

[drmel]

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im on a med subi and i feel sick about something that happened on rounds with the senior resident today. she was pimping both me and the 3rd year, and the 3rd year was showing me up. i knew the asnwers but after 1 wrong one, i got so down on myself that i shut down and couldnt even think straight and any answers i knew, i felt stupid saying in case i could be wrong. i felt so humiliated. my resident thinks i am great and always says my notes and presentations are excellent, but i feel incredibly embarrassed by this because now they probably think i dont even know basic stuff. i feel like as a sub i, i should be better able to handle pimping. i think there is a huge element of social anxiety for me, but i was wondering if anyone else ever had this happen to them? how do you handle this?! thanks.

 

[FutureInternist]

You never know more as a med student/ doctor than the day after the last of of 2nd year....don't sweat it.
It WILL happen again & again 😀

 

[The Angriest Bird]

It's okay. Trust me, it really IS okay.

Nobody will expect you to know everything just because you went from MS3 to MS4. In fact, I think the general belief is that even interns don't know anything.

 

[drmel]

yea

 

[Rendar5]

but it was so simple...work up for a gi bleed, something i could spew off to my patients, my friends, my family, but in that setting, i completely lost it and its killing me.🙁

get over it. you'll do better next time. we've all forgotten stuff we can do in our sleep from time to time

 

[JStub]

get over it. you'll do better next time. we've all forgotten stuff we can do in our sleep from time to time

I've seen questions being asked by another student (not pimping but a legitimate question she had) to a group of 3 students, an intern, a resident, and an attending. The only person who knew the answer was a 3rd year student. Nobody, including the attending, got upset about it. You are never expected to know everything and you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.

 

[45408]

It happens. The only thing you did wrong is worry about it so much. The M3s got a few questions that I didn't remember a few times.

 

[tfom08]

Yeah, you know it's not really a big deal. When I was studying hard for my medicine shelf, I definitely knew more about some topics than even the residents (not about typical patient care stuff, but about more obscure workups) to the point that I made sure not to ask anymore questions because I didn't want to seem like I was questioning their knowledge. Stuff like that just happens. A 3rd year who was studying for the shelf last night and just read about the w/u for GI bleeding is going to be able to recite it as well or better than anyone on the team. Just let it slide. But if it happens again, pull the 3rd year aside Samuel L style and tell them you have a knife in your bag and you will cut a mother****** if it happens again.

 

[QofQuimica]

im on a med subi and i feel sick about something that happened on rounds with the senior resident today. she was pimping both me and the 3rd year, and the 3rd year was showing me up. i knew the asnwers but after 1 wrong one, i got so down on myself that i shut down and couldnt even think straight and any answers i knew, i felt stupid saying in case i could be wrong. i felt so humiliated. my resident thinks i am great and always says my notes and presentations are excellent, but i feel incredibly embarrassed by this because now they probably think i dont even know basic stuff. i feel like as a sub i, i should be better able to handle pimping. i think there is a huge element of social anxiety for me, but i was wondering if anyone else ever had this happen to them? how do you handle this?! thanks.

Medicine isn't a competition; we are all part of the same team. No one knows it all, and everyone can learn something from everyone else, even from the MS3. These days, the lines of greatest knowledgeability are blurrier anyway. Particularly when there are nontrad students who may have more experience or knowledge in certain areas than their AIs or junior residents do, there is bound to be some reversal of roles sometimes. For example, there may be other students on your team at some point with backgrounds as paramedics, nurses, or EMTs. They are sometimes even better than the residents at performing certain procedures such as starting IVs just because they have more experience. On one of my teams, we had an intern who had been a pharmacist before going to med school. Even the attending asked that intern for help with pharmacy-related questions. I have a background in pharmaceutical chemistry, and sometimes I was the one helping teach my teams about pharm mechanisms and pharmacokinetics.

In general, whenever someone else knows more about something than you do, take advantage of them as a resource and ask them to help you learn. Maybe that third year has a good mnemonic s/he could teach you, or a helpful article that explains the concepts especially clearly. It doesn't matter where you or they are in the official hierarchy; if they know more about something than you do, then they can help you know more about it, too. Don't be too proud to ask someone for help just because s/he is your junior. I promise you that there will be many, many more times when that same third year will be the one asking for *your* help.

 

[BAM!]

hey OP, you should come back to this post in 2 days after some relaxation and read your original post. promise me you won't let the machine define your being.

 

[J ROD]

Just remember you are the pimp and a pimp cant be pimped yo! lol!!

 

[freakystud]

I've been through many times... so depressed when u cant answer even basic questions... well ignore bout humiliations.. just think we are all learners... from cradle to grave.....

 

[Pinkertinkle]

i cant believe you got played like a tape by a 3rd year, i would be so mad.

 

[funshi baba]

i cant believe you got played like a tape by a 3rd year, i would be so mad.

lol! trying to feed the fire?

 

[Clemson Doc]

I got pimped by an attending last week, and it bothered me that I did not know the answer to a few questions. As I was walking home, I thought "Who cares? I am a fourth year. He isn't really grading me, and I will definitely not forget the answers to those questions in the future."

As a third year, I would sometimes get nervous about being pimped. But really, does it matter how much you get right or how much you get wrong? Nope. So don't worry about it.