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[NontradCA]

My problem is this:

I want to retake Precalc. The Precalc course at my current school is only 3 credits.

The course I took before was 4 credits...and the school is over 1,500 miles away. So taking the course at my previous school won't work...


The material is the same but the credits are different...


Wat do?

Wat it do? Nm, chillin. 😎

Take it at a community college where it's 4+ credits.

 

[NontradCA]

same problem


and I'm not in a big education state

if that makes sense




Should I just take it at my current school and appeal aacomas on it?

No because it probably will not work. You can look into doing online somewhere at a CC(longshot) or go somewhere in the summer to take it (logistics problem). Is it a failing grade? If not, take Calc and ace it. Or, just make sure you follow up with great grades after that precalc class. 1 bad grade is not going to sink you.

 

[advair250]

AACOMAS is firm about their requirements. Don't bother.

 

[advair250]

Like the other poster said, one bad class won't sink you. Especially since its only counted towards your cGPA, and its pre-calc, so its not even a class of substance. Don't stress it

 

[advair250]

AFAIK, pre-calc would still be math and its not included in sGPA.

 

[coolingglasses]

Yeah, math isn't in your sGPA.

If you're looking to bump up your BCPM for MD though, this might be good to do. And no, don't retake it this way and attempt to appeal AACOMAS, it won't work. I had a 3.3 semester credit equivalent course that I failed and tried to replace it with a 3.0 semester credit course. No dice.

 

[DocScrooge]

I would ask specific schools about the situation. It's possible that if its a 1 credit hour difference, some would not mind.

 

[hallowmann]

not part of science gpa?

As others have mentioned, the AACOMAS sGPA is a BCP grade point average, and does not include any math grades. That should have been one of the first things you noticed about the AACOMAS application.

Again, one grade won't be a big deal for you. I have about 4 bad grades that are not possible for me to replace due to their awkward credit hour size, cost, and timing. Its not a big deal.

I would ask specific schools about the situation. It's possible that if its a 1 credit hour difference, some would not mind.

What are you talking about? Specific schools don't calculate your AACOMAS GPAs, AACOMAS does. If a school wants to they might calculate your GPA themselves, but I doubt they will count a course as a replacement if AACOMAS doesn't label it as such. Its not like its an arbitrary rule. If a course has more credit hours it is usually more advanced or at the very least more time consuming, so it makes sense that you wouldn't be able to replace a more time consuming/advanced course with a less time consuming/advanced one.

 

[coolingglasses]

BCPO*

that "Other Science" category is pretty handy

 

[TriagePreMed]

So bottomline:

material and course description may be the same BUT if # of credits is not equal to or greater than

then it won't replace the old grade....

Correct.

 

[mappingmedicine]

Ok, I think i may have found a CC that offers a 4 credit equivalent


BUT they label it as "Trigonometry " then you can go onto Calc I


Is this different label of the class an issue or should it be good as long as its the same material?

Looks like to me its the same material but just called "Trig" instead of "Precalc"

Trigonometry and Pre-Calculus are two different classes; some CCs/Universities opt for different routes when requiring pre-requisite classes to Calculus I. That particular CC may just include topics of trigonometry into their pre-calc class so it will prepare students for Calc I quicker, but i don't believe it will equate to an exact trigonometry class for AACOMAS. Especially since the course titles are exactly different. It wouldn't hurt to try though.

On a second note (sorry if it sounds like a thread hi-jack, but I think this Q relates), would anyone happen to know if AACOMAS would replace a 4cr. class with a 5cr. class when both courses met 5 hours a week; or are they strict about what it lists exactly on the transcript regardless of how a certain college does things? (both were 5days/week in the form of 1 hour per class) The college I retook the course just happened to make that class a 4cr class on paper, even though we met 5 hours a week.

 

[advair250]

Like its been said numerous times, the updated class must be equal or greater in credit value than the previous course. No exceptions.

 

[TriagePreMed]

I agree that trigonometry won't count.

 

[mappingmedicine]

Like its been said numerous times, the updated class must be equal or greater in credit value than the previous course. No exceptions.

Appreciate the insight, but I ask because I've read previous posters stories during their application process of AACOMAS having "let it slide" and had still replaced their higher unit class with a lower unit class barring it was the same type of course. I would look for the exact thread but it was a while ago, but i'm sure i've seen it mentioned in multiple threads. It would also make a small, but possibly significant GPA bump for me and many others if true.

 

[coolingglasses]

Appreciate the insight, but I ask because I've read previous posters stories during their application process of AACOMAS having "let it slide" and had still replaced their higher unit class with a lower unit class barring it was the same type of course. I would look for the exact thread but it was a while ago, but i'm sure i've seen it mentioned in multiple threads. It would also make a small, but possibly significant GPA bump for me and many others if true.

And I've read/experienced the opposite during this past cycle. You're welcome to try, but don't hold any expectations about it.

 

[hallowmann]

And I've read/experienced the opposite during this past cycle. You're welcome to try, but don't hold any expectations about it.

I had exactly the same experience as coolingglasses here. I had a class that happened to be 3.3 credits, and they wouldn't replace it with a 3 credit class that actually met for slightly longer per week. Most people seem to have that experience, but you are welcome to try.

 

[hallowmann]

Just found out something else my adviser is wrong about


WF will count as F on aacomas if that WF is calculated in my gpa


my adviser said not to worry about it cause it wouldn't matter to aacomas


https://aacomas.aacom.org/survey/views/client/aacomas/collegesInstructions4.html

Withdraw/Fail: if the grade of "WF" is granted and is included in the GPA at your institution, the letter grade of "F" will be listed in the AACOMAS Grade column and included in your GPA calculations.

Wow, that's a pretty big mistake on the part of your pre-med adviser. To be honest though, pre-med advisers seem to know very little about the AACOMAS application process, unless they are affiliated, linked, or closely related to a DO school.

 

[coolingglasses]

Yeah, your pre-med advisor is generally going to be geared towards AMCAS. Mine missed a few things too, although nothing major if I remember right.

 

[SD3321]

I want to bump this thread as I don't want to make a new thread. My questions is do DO schools generally require math as a pre requisite?

 

[TriagePreMed]

I want to bump this thread as I don't want to make a new thread. My questions is do DO schools generally require math as a pre requisite?

No, there's not a single DO school that requires math.

 

[SFU]

No, there's not a single DO school that requires math.

False, TOURO-COM NY requires 4 credits of either Math or Computer Science😎

 

[scarecrow90]

So for science GPA I take it psych courses don't count. What about neuroscience courses? My undergraduate degree was in neuroscience, so the majority of my science courses are neuro. 😕

Is BCP strictly biology, chemistry, and physics?