A bit jealous of these spiritual care workers at hospitals

[Poit]

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Whenever I see a note with the treatment plan: "prayed and provided supportive care", I get a bit jelly. The diagnostic workup has already been done, the treatment plan is the same every time, you don't get sued for a poor outcome, and if they make a recovery, you get some of the credit.

 

[Newyawk]

Whenever I see a note with the treatment plan: "prayed and provided supportive care", I get a bit jelly. The diagnostic workup has already been done, the treatment plan is the same every time, you don't get sued for a poor outcome, and if they make a recovery, you get some of the credit.

Ask them to show you their paycheck

 

[subdermallight]

Whenever I see a note with the treatment plan: "prayed and provided supportive care", I get a bit jelly. The diagnostic workup has already been done, the treatment plan is the same every time, you don't get sued for a poor outcome, and if they make a recovery, you get some of the credit.

Credit where credit is due. Talking to patients in stress or pain can lower cortisol levels and promote healing and improve compliance. People getting better isn’t some zero sum situation.

 

[RinShanKaiHo]

As a dead hard atheist I hear you

 

[nimbus]

This reminds me of a meme....unfortunately it violates TOS.

 

[siliso]

I don’t think the chaplain is getting much of the credit for your work. Unless you’re actually jealous of God. Anyway who else are you gonna call when you can’t fix grandma and the family is devastated and you can’t sit there for hours providing supportive listening yourself (neither can the nurses or the palliative doc, even). Someone gets to try to clean up the emotional messes we leave behind for about the same money as cleaning up the physical messes. I’m grateful.

 

[puahate]

Whats their paycheck?

 

[getdown]

Whenever I see a note with the treatment plan: "prayed and provided supportive care", I get a bit jelly. The diagnostic workup has already been done, the treatment plan is the same every time, you don't get sued for a poor outcome, and if they make a recovery, you get some of the credit.

When I see med students and read their notes I get jelly about how ****ty their notes (copy and paste), how minimal responsibility is placed on them and how they can't get sued. The diagnostic and treatment plans have been thought of by the attending and residents and you're usually not around when there is a complication or the pt comes back for a poor outcome.

But then I look at my paycheck and lifestyle and life is much better.

See how ridiculous comparing yourself to other people sounds? Grass is always greener on the other side

 

[RNthenDoc]

The chaplains I’ve worked with are some of the hardest-working, lowest paid, most helpful people in the hospital.

The good ones set up POA before patient is incapacitated (in my health system all chaplains are Notaries and carry POA papers), help guide family decisions and assuage consciences when the time to stop is there, and diffuse awful situations.

Times I’ve asked a chaplain to help me in a family meeting: dozens. Times I’ve asked a Med student to be involved in a family meeting: zero.

They don’t provide medical care, but half of psych care is listening and asking questions, so for many patients they can have a direct therapeutic benefit aside from the practical ones mentioned above.

 

[SLC]

You could have just come right out and said that you think spirituality is bull$&@!, and that you as a doctor (in training no less) deserve all the credit and adoration, it would have been more efficient.

 

[RNthenDoc]

You could have just come right out and said that you think spirituality is bull$&@!, and that you as a doctor (in training no less) deserve all the credit and adoration, it would have been more efficient.

Wait until OP sees nurses get 80% of the credit. Heads will explode. Lol.

 

[siliso]

When the latest progress note was 20 hours ago and you have new ideas about today, you could do them the courtesy as your partners in patient care to let them know.

 

[MEN2C]

Whenever I see a note with the treatment plan: "prayed and provided supportive care", I get a bit jelly. The diagnostic workup has already been done, the treatment plan is the same every time, you don't get sued for a poor outcome, and if they make a recovery, you get some of the credit.

Then go do their job. Seriously. Just try it I'm so thankful for them. Sitting next to a grieving mom and dad for hours as they're holding their dying son and have no idea how they'll cope. Giving relief to them, praying for that baby's soul and and comforting them over hours, days and weeks. Seriously, what a self centered, trollish, and ridiculous statement.

On a scale of 1-10 of religiousness, I rank about a 0. But for those who place importance on spirituality, these people are amazing. And even those who aren't religious will sometimes benefit from just having someone to talk to.

 

[DrSnips]

Wait until OP sees nurses get 80% of the credit. Heads will explode. Lol.

They can have 100% of the credit as long as I clean 0% of the poop.

 

[Rekt]

They can have 100% of the credit as long as I clean 0% of the poop.

Eventually all that credit will go to their heads and they'll think they can play doctor.

Oh wait.

 

[nimbus]

Some cutting edge spiritual care...

 

[nimbus]

Then go do their job. Seriously. Just try it I'm so thankful for them. Sitting next to a grieving mom and dad for hours as they're holding their dying son and have no idea how they'll cope. Giving relief to them, praying for that baby's soul and and comforting them over hours, days and weeks. Seriously, what a self centered, trollish, and ridiculous statement.

On a scale of 1-10 of religiousness, I rank about a 0. But for those who place importance on spirituality, these people are amazing. And even those who aren't religious will sometimes benefit from just having someone to talk to.

The notes are all the same but the service they provide is incredibly varied depending on the patient and the situation.

 

[Tenk]

My neighbor at my last house was a chaplain. Literally the nicest man I’ve ever known. Anytime he talked to me I just felt better about life and we talked zero about religion. These people serve a purpose that you may not appreciate as a student but will understand more as an attending. Picture them like a human sized Xanax. They make families calm during stressful situations. Love them and utilize them a lot in the ED during bad cases.

 

[NITRAS]

I really like our chaplains, but the whole thing is actually pretty secular ( blowing some of yalls minds I know).

 

[SurfingDoctor]

Our spiritual care workers are super nice, but I don’t envy them. Not one bit. Probably if my salary doubled... I still won’t do it. Same with social workers.

 

[VincentAdultman]

Awesome take OP.