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is this north2southOMFS at a pro-bush rally..??
...the world will never know.
...the world will never know.
A gentle reminder
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toothcaries said:is this north2southOMFS at a pro-bush rally..??
...the world will never know.
Dude, how'd ya'll get my picture on da screen? Aint I cute? Mullet and all anyhow?
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lnn2 said:
Dude, the picture of the "voat" is absolutely priceless. Thank you for that 🙂.
I'll be passing that one around the Broward GOP!
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Ladies and Gentlemen....tonight's entertainment:
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What a ladies' man....
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Another one...
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Where's OmsRes tonight? Playing catcher? Bring it on, baby...BRING IT!
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Hey, just to be fair that is a circa 1998 picture of us. we are much cooler now.
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updated pic..
btw,
to post pics,
place the url with tag: [*IMG*]http://www.yourhost.com/yourpic.jpg[*/IMG*]
(delete the "*")
if the pic is on your computer..
..upload to a host server.
www.imageshack.us is quick and easy to use..
btw,
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(delete the "*")
if the pic is on your computer..
..upload to a host server.
www.imageshack.us is quick and easy to use..
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toothcaries said:
Good info, thanks. I'll see if I can fix my posts now so we can all laugh with OmsRes. Or is it laugh at OmsRes?
psiyung said:
You do realize that this makes many SDN users very happy, right? 🙂
But in seriousness, I'll repeat my earlier comments. Kerry isn't and never was a candidate. He was merely an option for people to vote against Bush. If Kerry had actually taken a stance on ANYTHING then people might have rushed to the polls more eagerly to vote for him.
I think that any slew of Dems could have had a much better chance in defeating Bush, including Howard Dean. It's too bad, really.
Wait, no it isn't.
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I was hoping it would have been Howard Dean (the leftist that I am), but after the democratic slime machine ruined his reputation, and decided someone who could beat GWB due to early "poll" numbers, they sold their souls...blankguy said:
A lot of my friends didn't vote for this very reason...maybe we can get a decent candidate in 08 who will be ANTI-FRIGGIN-WAR, and is a fiscal conservative who doesn't want to socialize healthcare
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Not in this day and age.
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ItsGavinC said:
Gavin,
That guy scared the heck out of me! I mean, all of that stuff with the infamous yell??? Naw, that didn't scare me... he was just reacting to the energy of the hall he was in Iowa.
What scared me was his EXTREME stance on just about everything. I mean, pulling troops immediately out of Iraq? Guy was nuts, thank goodness he never had a shot.
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He actually was prposing a 6 month time frame to leave Iraq. If you haven't noticed, the quagmire in iraq is getting worse by the day, with projections of the cost reaching over 500 billion over the next five years.mike3kgt said:
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The best part of this is that frenchman george soros, who spent like 60-70 million dollars to help john kerry beat GW.
Oh darn, 60 million more for the US economy.
sorry george.
Oh darn, 60 million more for the US economy.
sorry george.
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Agreed.mike3kgt said:
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ItsGavinC said:
Even though you make me sick to my stomach, Ill have to agree with you 100% on this one....I was saying the exact same thing since the primaries.....good analysis! 👍
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psiyung said:
You liberal wussies need to quit your hippie whining and be happy we have someone in office who will actually take a stance and kick some butt in this world.
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I was expecting a Bush victory. Looks like I was right on the money, close but in the end Bush coming out on top.
Now all we need to do is to declare foreign country who opposed us as a terrorist and bomb them 😀
Now all we need to do is to declare foreign country who opposed us as a terrorist and bomb them 😀
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toothcaries said:down boy.
anyways..
shades of florida 2000 in toothcaries' backyard.
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/977
wow,
it's like deja vu....all over again.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-ohio3nov03,1,3744814.story?coll=la-home-headlines
SWING STATE
This Time, Ohio Takes On Role of Florida
* At least 150,000 provisional ballots must be examined. Kerry needs most of them to win the state and keep his hopes alive.
By Sam Howe Verhovek and Henry Weinstein, Times Staff Writers
COLUMBUS, Ohio ? In a race with eerie overtones of the disputed election four years ago, Ohio was poised to assume Florida's role this time around ? the subject of supercharged legal wrangling and perhaps days or weeks of confusion over the final count.
This time, however, the battle was not over hanging chads or voting irregularities, but what are known as "provisional ballots."
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Such ballots arise from questions over the legal eligibility of the people who showed up to cast them, and state rules require that elections officials hold them for at least 10 days before investigating whether the voters were properly certified.
President Bush was leading in Ohio as of early today by more than 140,000 votes with 99% of precincts reporting, and with its 20 electoral votes he would win reelection. But at least 150,000 provisional ballots, as well as some absentee ballots and votes cast by state residents living in other countries, had yet to be counted.
This year's potential post-election confrontation would also take place against a different backdrop than four years ago. Then, Vice President Al Gore led Texas Gov. George W. Bush in the nationwide popular vote by about half a million votes, while this year Bush held a lead early this morning of more than 3 million votes.
Republicans, led by Ohio's two GOP senators, quickly began to apply pressure on Sen. John F. Kerry to concede the state and thus the presidency. Sens. Mike DeWine and George Voinovich said their experience in the state's politics told them "that the president's lead in Ohio is clear and that it cannot be surmounted."
But Kerry's campaign was holding out hope that the provisional ballots would win him the state ? and could give him the presidency, depending on the outcome in a handful of other closely contested states.
Bush's lead in Ohio was large enough that the odds appeared against the Kerry scenario for victory. To win Ohio, Kerry would have to rack up a huge margin among the uncounted ballots.
Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell said that as many as 150,000 of the more than 5 million ballots cast here Tuesday were provisional, and some elections officials put the number at more than 200,000.
Asked whether his state might be this year's Florida, Blackwell told CBS News' Dan Rather early today, "As long as you don't mean that in a pejorative sense."
Blackwell promised "an honest, solid count that reflects the will of the people."
About 98,000 provisional ballots were cast in the 2000 presidential election here ? with roughly 90% of them ultimately determined to be properly cast. But they did not play a role in the outcome because Bush's margin over then-Vice President Al Gore was higher than that total: Bush got 2,351,209 votes and Gore 2,186,190.
Elections officials said early Wednesday that most provisional ballots were concentrated in the state's three largest cities, where Democrats usually perform strongly.
In Ohio, provisional ballots can be cast in a variety of situations in which a question arises about a voter's status at the polls.
Frequently, it happens when someone has moved and is not on the rolls at the polling place where he or she shows up to vote. Local election officials are directed to find out what the correct polling place is for an individual, and send the person there.
Mark Weaver, the chief Republican attorney in Ohio, said he believed Bush had prevailed in the Buckeye State. However, he added that it appeared that the president's margin of victory would be less than the number of provisional ballots cast ? which could mean that the result would not be certified for at least 10 days.
Professor Rick Hasen of Loyola Law School emphasized that the Help America Vote Act, passed after the 2000 vote difficulties, "guarantees a right to cast a provisional ballot and have it counted if the voter is eligible. Ohio has a process for counting these provisional ballots, but some of the procedures are open to question and ? open to litigation as well."
Provisional ballots would be reviewed by election boards in each of Ohio's 88 counties. Two Democrats and two Republicans sit on each of the boards. But Ohio State University law professor Daniel Tokaji said Ohio "has very little in the way of standards" for assessing the validity of a provisional ballot.
The state's election code allows challenges of voters who, for instance, are not at least 18 or a resident of the state for at least 30 consecutive days before the vote. But previous cases could give little clue how state statutes would be applied now, because of the passage of the new federal voting law, several experts said.
Tokaji predicted that Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell might recommend a very stringent standard for acceptance of the provisional ballots, while Democrats "will be pushing for the most liberal standard possible."
In any event, the mathematics of the prolonged count did not favor Kerry.
Taking a hypothetical example of 200,000 provisional ballots, Ohio State law professor Edward Foley noted that even a high 70% Kerry margin in those votes would net only 80,000 votes, not enough to close the margin with Bush.
Political discussions are usually reserved for the Everyone forum (http://forums.drslounge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12), but many felt it was important to have a place to vent & post about election night here in our dental forums, and I wholeheartedly agree.
Thanks to all those who voiced their opinions, either in seriousness or in humor.
Please feel free to continue these discussions in the Everyone forum. And, as we move on, let's remember that although our political opinions may divide us, our profession is one of the many things that unites us.
Thanks again,
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Thanks to all those who voiced their opinions, either in seriousness or in humor.
Please feel free to continue these discussions in the Everyone forum. And, as we move on, let's remember that although our political opinions may divide us, our profession is one of the many things that unites us.
Thanks again,
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