A heads up - Med school exam question structure

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First off, Congratulations to all of those who have been accepted to the classes of 2014!! Just thought I would give you guys a heads up on how they test material at my medical school, and likely your medical school, and a few questions on the subject boards were like this too.

Type of exam questions you might be used to...

What is the capitol of Missouri?

A) St. Louis
B) Columbia
C) Carson City
D) Springfield
E) Jefferson City

Credited Response --->(E) Jefferson City

Example of a Med School "equalizer" type question

Which of the following statements about your patient's experience in Missouri is least likely to be true?


A) While in Missouri, the patient stopped in Kansas City to see his brother's new house.
B) The patient took a helicopter tour of St. Louis and informs you that the famous Gateway Arch is the tallest habitable structure in Missouri.
C) Your patient recently moved 120 miles west from his house in Jefferson County to a ranch in Cole County, just outside of Jefferson City.
D) Missouri and Tennessee are each bordered by 7 states, more than any other state in America.
E) Your patient was found unconscious just north of St. Louis where the Missouri River, the longest river in the United States, empties into the Mississippi.



Answer Reasoning

A) This is a baseline answer in which if you choose this answer choice it tells the instructor that you clearly have no clue about the geography of Missouri, as Kansas City is the largest city in Missouri. But it's still not 100% true, because Kansas City extends into Kansas, and if the patients brother's house is in the part that extends into Kansas, it could be an incorrect answer. So you star this answer choice just in case all of the rest of the possible answer choices are 100% true, which would then make this answer choice the least likely to be true.... get it? 🙂

B) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false (aka least likely to be true) you need to know that: the famous arch in St. Louis is called the Gateway Arch; the arch is in fact habitable; it is 7 feet taller than One Kansas City Place.

C) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false you need to know that: Jefferson City resides in Cole County and not Jefferson County (which is in eastern Missouri); Cole County is ~120 miles west from Jefferson County; There are ranches in Cole County.

D) This is the credited response. While you may have remembered that Missouri and Tennessee each have more border states than any other, the total number of border states is 8 for each, not 7. Thus the answer is false. Answer justification --- Missouri is bordered by Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Illinois --- Tennessee is bordered by Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia.

E) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false, you need to know that: The Missouri River is a tributary of the Mississippi River and empties into the Mississippi River just north of St. Louis; the Missouri River is known to be the longest river in the US as it is ~220 miles longer than the Mississippi River (commonly mistaken as the longest river in the US)


Edit: I removed my opinions on why these types of questions are given in order to prevent thread digression. This thread was meant solely to give matriculants an idea of how questions are structured in med school. Please post your own interpretation of med school type questions 😀
 
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thanks, I definitely see how they might make exam questions tricky like that.

I bombed the sample question though...
 
This is also why you absolutely need to be well rested for exams. All nighters will deplete your ability to get these types of questions correct.
 
You have way too much time on your hands.

Medical school exam are easy to pass, and hard to make an A on.
 
This is also why you absolutely need to be well rested for exams. All nighters will deplete your ability to get these types of questions correct.

I know it varies from person to person and week to week, but on average how many hours of sleep/night have you been getting so far in med school?
 
What the OP is trying to say is that premeds should all sign up for logic courses in preparation for the medical school exam structure. 😛
 
I know it varies from person to person and week to week, but on average how many hours of sleep/night have you been getting so far in med school?

7-8 hrs / night. I usually don't set an alarm unless I absolutely need to be at school early. It's really refreshing to be able to sleep until you naturally wake up. Especially since after next year, I'll likely have to set an alarm for the rest of my life.
 
These are questions that are made in order to ensure that not everyone gets a 100. Not every question is like this, but I have found that on some exams (especially biochemistry) there are a couple of these that will trip you up.
Oh come on. The the reason not everyone gets a 100 isn't because they're trying to trick you, it's because this stuff is hard 🙄 And sorry if you think your questions are tricky, but that really hasn't been the case for me so far; in fact, our biochem questions on the last block were eminently fair and straightforward, I felt.

Med school is hard, yes. Some questions are going to cover minute details, because the minute details are important in medicine. But seeing as your school has invested a lot of money in your education, it would behoove them to try and help you succeed rather than to trip you up on some BS for no reason.
 
I just can't believe the negative attitude of most SDN posters, even a mod(?) wow.... I'm trying to help these people get an idea of what they need to prepare themselves for, and the responses from other med students is no more useful than airborne dung. I'm glad I'm surrounded by benevolent, altruistic folk at my school, while other schools harbor cotton headed ninny muggins. 😀
 
LOL, theres like a pretty high chance that you guys go to the same school if you are in Houston
 
the question put forth by the OP is actually very rare to see on the important exams in medical school.

This is one of those pre-clinical Phd trick questions that are annoying but ultimately meaningless.

On step 1,2,3 and shelf exams (the tests the actually matter) questions are presented as clinical cases often asking you the mechanisms, diagnosis, management or about a complication. The question stems are long full of both important and non-important details, but the answer choices are short and not difficult to understand. These questions tests your knowledge of the topic and you ability to rapidly read and synthesis information, not your deduction of what the question wording is truly asking.
 
i thought med school was all memorization

i guess it tests science reasoning as well... now it makes sense why they have the MCAT 😀
 
wtf? Just study and you will pass. Period. Med school isnt hard, its just time consuming.
 
yea but still, ninny muggins

Lol. Also, since he talked about subject boards when we don't take those at my school, I think he probably goes elsewhere 😉

All I'm saying is, whenever a pre-med sees a medical student come and make a thread about what med school is like, they should bear in mind that it is only one student at one school's experience. Their own med school experience may well be similar, but it could also be very different. Sorry if I came out a bit more brash than I meant; I'm just a little tired of threads that are like, "ZOMG MED SCHOOL IS SO HARD!!!!!111" I mean, yes, you've gotta work hard, and I suppose how stressful it is for you is also something of a function of how badly you want to kick butt on every exam or if passing is enough for you (personally I'm pretty cool with passing); but for me personally, if I got one or two questions like this on an exam that were a little tricky, I'd be OK with that.
 
Cool. I guess this means I should attempt to finish my book, "The Book of Useless Information"
 
First off, Congratulations to all of those who have been accepted to the classes of 2014!! Just thought I would give you guys a heads up on how they test material at my medical school, and likely your medical school, and a few questions on the subject boards were like this too.

Type of exam questions you might be used to...

What is the capitol of Missouri?

A) St. Louis
B) Columbia
C) Carson City
D) Springfield
E) Jefferson City

Credited Response --->(E) Jefferson City

Example of a Med School "equalizer" type question

Which of the following statements about your patient's experience in Missouri is least likely to be true?


A) While in Missouri, the patient stopped in Kansas City to see his brother's new house.
B) The patient took a helicopter tour of St. Louis and informs you that the famous Gateway Arch is the tallest habitable structure in Missouri.
C) Your patient recently moved 120 miles west from his house in Jefferson County to a ranch in Cole County, just outside of Jefferson City.
D) Missouri and Tennessee are each bordered by 7 states, more than any other state in America.
E) Your patient was found unconscious just north of St. Louis where the Missouri River, the longest river in the United States, empties into the Mississippi.



Answer Reasoning

A) This is a baseline answer in which if you choose this answer choice it tells the instructor that you clearly have no clue about the geography of Missouri, as Kansas City is the largest city in Missouri. But it's still not 100% true, because Kansas City extends into Kansas, and if the patients brother's house is in the part that extends into Kansas, it could be an incorrect answer. So you star this answer choice just in case all of the rest of the possible answer choices are 100% true, which would then make this answer choice the least likely to be true.... get it? 🙂

B) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false (aka least likely to be true) you need to know that: the famous arch in St. Louis is called the Gateway Arch; the arch is in fact habitable; it is 7 feet taller than One Kansas City Place.

C) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false you need to know that: Jefferson City resides in Cole County and not Jefferson County (which is in eastern Missouri); Cole County is ~120 miles west from Jefferson County; There are ranches in Cole County.

D) This is the credited response. While you may have remembered that Missouri and Tennessee each have more border states than any other, the total number of border states is 8 for each, not 7. Thus the answer is false. Answer justification --- Missouri is bordered by Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Illinois --- Tennessee is bordered by Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia.

E) In order to exclude this answer choice from being false, you need to know that: The Missouri River is a tributary of the Mississippi River and empties into the Mississippi River just north of St. Louis; the Missouri River is known to be the longest river in the US as it is ~220 miles longer than the Mississippi River (commonly mistaken as the longest river in the US)


Edit: I removed my opinions on why these types of questions are given in order to prevent thread digression. This thread was meant solely to give matriculants an idea of how questions are structured in med school. Please post your own interpretation of med school type questions 😀

Hopefully, this school is in Missouri, and not someplace like Idaho.
 
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