A Message From Jet

[jetproppilot]

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Dear non-doctors,

The last time I looked at the name of this website, it was called Student Doctor Network. It is intended, I surmise, for people who are in college with aspirations of being a physician, for med students, for residents, and for doctors. Anyone, of course, can log in here.

What I have witnessed over the last few months is an infiltration of para professionals with negative objectives, what I'll term "doctor bashing". I have tolerated this, and tried to downplay it, to no avail.

SO, from now on, CRNAs, SRNAs, if you come to MY TURF and post politically motivated anti-physician propeganda, expect a FULL OFFENSIVE from me, similar to what the USA did to Saddham. I really have yet to understand why you are here posting politically controversial stuff, but that is not within my control. What IS within my control is replies to your political B.S. on a DOCTOR FORUM.

I consider all of you militant para-professionals posting on this site terrorists, and you will be dealt with accordingly.

 

[jetproppilot]

Dear non-doctors,

The last time I looked at the name of this website, it was called Student Doctor Network. It is intended, I surmise, for people who are in college with aspirations of being a physician, for med students, for residents, and for doctors. Anyone, of course, can log in here.

What I have witnessed over the last few months is an infiltration of para professionals with negative objectives, what I'll term "doctor bashing". I have tolerated this, and tried to downplay it, to no avail.

SO, from now on, CRNAs, SRNAs, if you come to MY TURF and post politically motivated anti-physician propeganda, expect a FULL OFFENSIVE from me, similar to what the USA did to Saddham. I really have yet to understand why you are here posting politically controversial stuff, but that is not within my control. What IS within my control is replies to your political B.S. on a DOCTOR FORUM.

I consider all of you militant para-professionals posting on this site terrorists, and you will be dealt with accordingly.

And I encourage all pre-meds/med students/residents/Mds/DOs to follow suit.

I am not a CRNA basher. As all of you know I promote the team approach, and I value CRNAs. I do not, however, value paraprofessionals who come to a doctor website with politically motivated objectives.

 

[powermd]

Dear non-doctors,

The last time I looked at the name of this website, it was called Student Doctor Network. It is intended, I surmise, for people who are in college with aspirations of being a physician, for med students, for residents, and for doctors. Anyone, of course, can log in here.

What I have witnessed over the last few months is an infiltration of para professionals with negative objectives, what I'll term "doctor bashing". I have tolerated this, and tried to downplay it, to no avail.

SO, from now on, CRNAs, SRNAs, if you come to MY TURF and post politically motivated anti-physician propeganda, expect a FULL OFFENSIVE from me, similar to what the USA did to Saddham. I really have yet to understand why you are here posting politically controversial stuff, but that is not within my control. What IS within my control is replies to your political B.S. on a DOCTOR FORUM.

I consider all of you militant para-professionals posting on this site terrorists, and you will be dealt with accordingly.

I don't think you'll have any problem finding wingmen around here, jet. As of today I'm ensign powermd. Hooyah!

 

[militarymd]

I must concur here. What's up with non-premed types entering a pre-med forum and posting policitically motviated stuff???

 

[militarymd]

Yup, just came back from the CRNA forum....no docs there posting policitically motivated stuff....I find that interesting....

Maybe, we should all go over there and post stuff??? 😀

 

[LittleRock]

could not have said it better myself..
this is LONG overdue...

 

[lvspro]

Hey jpp
It's about time. I come here for advice, as well as leisure. Lately I haven't visited as much b/c I've been getting quite fed up with the para's vicious banter on OUR forum. I guess that every once in a while, the children need a beating to keep them in line. Hopefully this gets 'em back in line.

 

[Private Pyle]

I'm game. If I'm gonna keep my rep up, I'ma have ta step up son!

in all seriousness you people need to respect the MFing boundries. You can say all you want but if you're going to post anti-MD stuff, get the F out of here. in the end you'll just make yourself look pathetic and jealous....and we all know that's not what it boils down to now is it.....

 

[lvspro]

Yeeha
I just read JPP's post's on that other thread. Way to lay it to 'em man.

 

[PassinGas]

😱

 

[brains]

I KNOW! What do they get a kick out of coming here and making worthless remarks to us? Out of all their statements I've seen on this board, non of them have been positive, or never have they given us any thumbs up for all the things we do for people. They simply TRY to point out all the technicalities in the doctors field vs. their field.

 

[militarymd]

Jenny,

Are you really in Albuquerque? I have a good friend who is an anesthesiologist in the Lovelace system.

 

[militarymd]

He rides too...I think he has 3 different bikes...His wife, a CRNA, also rides.

 

[nitecap]

Man chill out. This is a discussion board open to the public as long as one follows rules. Dont be intimidated by a few CRNA's, SRNA's speaking up. IF you let something like that get under your skin reaacting the way you did, Id hate to see you truely pissed.

I rarely see CRNA's or SRNA's start posts on this forum though Im sure their has been some. My frequent observations are CRNA's or SRNA's interjecting especially when residents or med students are popping off, sending misleading messages and distributing misinformation. Not to mention the frequent poster that totally bashes the CRNA profession out of intimidation issues.

Similarly I have seen anesthesia MD's, residents and med students speak up and defend their professions when a negative post is on allnurses.com.

If I started a negative, bashing and for the most part totally politicaly biased post about MD anesthesia providers on another board within days if not a day there would be multpile posts defending you guys, prob using foul language, ending up in the closing of the thread.

I have read very informative posts on this forum and monitor if frequently and like it. THe info obtained here I think is much more valuable than that on the CRNA forums, but I must say the posters on here are way more politically motivated than on the CRNA forums. I understand that you forum elders get tired of the whole MD vs. CRNA crap, totally. But for the most part it is young MD anesthesia providers or med students that bring it up and start the bickering. In that situation you just cant expect someone from the other side to speak up. Anesthesiologist and CRNA's though very different practitioners share one common trait. Both are very head strong and hold intense pride toward their respective professions. I would hope you would stick up for and back your profession up in a similar situation.

Hey as long as the dialog stays clean and constructive I say let it go on. A good debate, even aurgument can be very constuctive as long as it doesnt get out of hand. And if people cant control their emotions to get a point across then maybe they need not post. All Im saying is toughen up man. If you wish not to get into the CRNA vs MD crap then dont open up the thread, and by creating threads like this getting your team all geared up, as was done, you only fuel the fire. Which in turn leads to more negative posts, more bashing, just more of the things that you hate and are tired of reading on this board.

 

[anesthesiadrew]

I ain't said sh1t for a while now, trying to let things kewl down and get back to what IS important - clinical knowledge, even if all I ever learn is less than you forgot (sarcasm implied if you can't tell). Real professional of you to call me out on the last post....

 

[nitecap]

Originaly posted byJetpropilot August 13 2005

Nitecap,

I'll start with you.

JWK is a professional. He is valued here. You are not. Go back to your forum. And on the way, go f%ck yourself.
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Millitant CRNA's you say, from your language and tone seems like you are the millitant here. You are right JWK is a professional. I have prob. learned more from his posts than any others. JWK is also very quick to defend and support the AA profession which I totally respect, whether it be on this board or a crna board. Definitely never see him using language as you. Personal threats will get you no where my man, so just stop them now.

Where is your professionalism here? Its for sure not in your language. And not challenging you to anything so dont be so insecure. Last night when I replied to Volitals post I at least used respect. You prob. have forgotten more anesthesia than I have memorized but where will that get you now. Sure hope you dont act out like this regulary. I mean we all blow up every once in a while but doing it on a forum is like someone tape recording it. So if possible can we just throw the personal BS aside. I dont know you and dont care to.

 

[VentdependenT]

Don't go recriminating man. Its a done deal. Jet is rather boldly voicing a mounting frustration we experience too often on this forum.

Anypoops just watched the thin red line. Solid movie and I can't believe I've never seen it before. It makes me want to become a brooding pacifist.

 

[Pooh & Annie]

These guys (and anesthesiology assistants in general), keep reminding me of that little dog in the Bugs Bunny cartoons, bouncing off of his much larger bulldog buddy. "Whada we gonna do now Spike? Huh? Whad'ya say Spike? What should we do now?" At least the little dog was honest enough with himself to know he was far less capable.
pooh n annie MSIV

 

[lvspro]

Hey man
As a med student, I come to this board to ask questions specifically to anesthesiologists. If my, or any other MSX's, questions happen to have a question about para's, then it is a question directed to the anesthesiologists. I can not recall anyone ever coming to this forum and asking "would a para please help me with the answer to this question." So, please, unless a question or comment is directed to you, don't give your opinion b/c no one asked... don't speak unless spoken to.
Also, I see no need for you to "defend" any CRNA. Typically the anesthesiologists stick up for para's whenever "a med student goes popping his mouth off" as you so eloquently put it. I can count a few times w/o looking into old posts that I have read JPP, military, etc. say things like "crna's are my colleagues, and i love em, or, they're great... and the like. Besides, why do you feel the need to "defend," yourself? Would you "defend" yourself if a child swore at you? Also, would you still need to defend yourself if said child was reprimanded by a parent? Much like children, med students look to our senior counterparts for more than just the technological knowledge, but how to develop wholly as a good physician. If a student does fumble, and say something not PC about para's then these anesthesiologists are quick to put us in our place. Hence I see no need for your "defense'" which I think I may rightly categorize as inflammatory and borderline belligerent. Get in where you fit in punk.

 

[LittleRock]

Man chill out. This is a discussion board open to the public as long as one follows rules. Dont be intimidated by a few CRNA's, SRNA's speaking up. IF you let something like that get under your skin reaacting the way you did, Id hate to see you truely pissed.

I rarely see CRNA's or SRNA's start posts on this forum though Im sure their has been some. My frequent observations are CRNA's or SRNA's interjecting especially when residents or med students are popping off, sending misleading messages and distributing misinformation. Not to mention the frequent poster that totally bashes the CRNA profession out of intimidation issues.

Similarly I have seen anesthesia MD's, residents and med students speak up and defend their professions when a negative post is on allnurses.com.

If I started a negative, bashing and for the most part totally politicaly biased post about MD anesthesia providers on another board within days if not a day there would be multpile posts defending you guys, prob using foul language, ending up in the closing of the thread.

I have read very informative posts on this forum and monitor if frequently and like it. THe info obtained here I think is much more valuable than that on the CRNA forums, but I must say the posters on here are way more politically motivated than on the CRNA forums. I understand that you forum elders get tired of the whole MD vs. CRNA crap, totally. But for the most part it is young MD anesthesia providers or med students that bring it up and start the bickering. In that situation you just cant expect someone from the other side to speak up. Anesthesiologist and CRNA's though very different practitioners share one common trait. Both are very head strong and hold intense pride toward their respective professions. I would hope you would stick up for and back your profession up in a similar situation.

Hey as long as the dialog stays clean and constructive I say let it go on. A good debate, even aurgument can be very constuctive as long as it doesnt get out of hand. And if people cant control their emotions to get a point across then maybe they need not post. All Im saying is toughen up man. If you wish not to get into the CRNA vs MD crap then dont open up the thread, and by creating threads like this getting your team all geared up, as was done, you only fuel the fire. Which in turn leads to more negative posts, more bashing, just more of the things that you hate and are tired of reading on this board.

flame posts should come with a warning...

 

[lvspro]

If that link to the sticker/poster isn't the gayest thing I've ever seen, I don't know what is.

 

[LittleRock]

If that link to the sticker/poster isn't the gayest thing I've ever seen, I don't know what is.

lol u can buy it on ebay for 19.95 http://cgi.ebay.com/CAUTION-ANESTHE...199859752QQcategoryZ15910QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[nitecap]

Again your professionalism at its best. Keep up the name calling, it only makes you look bad. Man first of all you sound like you are infatuated with children or something. Who brought up children in this topic? Please this is no place for kids. Second at least speak intellegently "get in where you fit in" . Last I checked this is not the new G-unit hiphop forum. And again this is a public forum med student. Anyone may comment on anyone's post. And the "speak when your spoken to "comment. Hope you dont plan to get anywhere in your medical career with that attitude because that will only lead to just about all your support staff and associates not respecting you one bit. You would never say that to my face whether in a clinical setting or out in public and that is for sure.

Hey man
As a med student, I come to this board to ask questions specifically to anesthesiologists. If my, or any other MSX's, questions happen to have a question about para's, then it is a question directed to the anesthesiologists. I can not recall anyone ever coming to this forum and asking "would a para please help me with the answer to this question." So, please, unless a question or comment is directed to you, don't give your opinion b/c no one asked... don't speak unless spoken to.
Also, I see no need for you to "defend" any CRNA. Typically the anesthesiologists stick up for para's whenever "a med student goes popping his mouth off" as you so eloquently put it. I can count a few times w/o looking into old posts that I have read JPP, military, etc. say things like "crna's are my colleagues, and i love em, or, they're great... and the like. Besides, why do you feel the need to "defend," yourself? Would you "defend" yourself if a child swore at you? Also, would you still need to defend yourself if said child was reprimanded by a parent? Much like children, med students look to our senior counterparts for more than just the technological knowledge, but how to develop wholly as a good physician. If a student does fumble, and say something not PC about para's then these anesthesiologists are quick to put us in our place. Hence I see no need for your "defense'" which I think I may rightly categorize as inflammatory and borderline belligerent. Get in where you fit in punk.

 

[lvspro]

LOL
Yeah, I'll stick it to my a$$ and then run copies. I'll then proceed to place a nice stack of the copies in the CRNA break room. That oughtta get 'em goin.

Really though, in the real world, I've noticed that CRNA's are pretty cool. Even on my surg rotation when I was watching an operation they would always let me behind the blood brain barrier. In fact, that was one of my reinforcing factors in choosing anesthesiology. I ended up being more interested in the brain side. Most of 'em had the same attitude about the so-called CRNA vs Anesthesiologist issue.... "who cares man, there's plenty of work to go around."

 

[jetproppilot]

Again your professionalism at its best. Keep up the name calling, it only makes you look bad. Man first of all you sound like you are infatuated with children or something. Who brought up children in this topic? Please this is no place for kids. Second at least speak intellegently "get in where you fit in" . Last I checked this is not the new G-unit hiphop forum. And again this is a public forum med student. Anyone may comment on anyone's post. And the "speak when your spoken to "comment. Hope you dont plan to get anywhere in your medical career with that attitude because that will only lead to just about all your support staff and associates not respecting you one bit. You would never say that to my face whether in a clinical setting or out in public and that is for sure.

Why are you here? Are you a pre-med/med student/resident/MD??? Do you enjoy coming here with your politically motivated crap? And you question my professionalism? Get a life and go post your crap on your nurse forum.

 

[nitecap]

At least one thing has been accomplished here this evening:

Jetropilot's language has drastically improved. Thanks.

 

[undecided05]

LAME... I can't believe that the powers that be haven't locked this down yet.

 

[lvspro]

Here we go
1. The children thing was an analogy. The fact that you could use something as innocent as that to imply pedophilia is disgusting.
2. The hip-hop argument is flawed. I will refer you to a couple of articles
Med Econ. 2000;19:121
Med Econ. 2000;19:62
Both of these articles indicate that among other things, anesthesiologists typically are musically inclined. This would justify me using quotes from Too Short's older albums in an anesthesiologist forum. Also, check the music trivia thread for proof of this in everyday life.
3. My associates and seniors all respect me b/c I work hard, care about my patients, and am the definition of type b personality. I own a few businesses, and I treat all my employees humanely, and with respect. If any of them have a gripe, I will typically bend to alleviate it, w/i reasonable limits. I have never had a problem working in a team.
4. I would, in fact, say that to you in public if you were as belligerent as you have been on this forum. I also would like to know what makes you so sure I wouldn't say anything?
5. You're last post can be reduced to name calling. Never once did you address the important issues of nobody asking for you're opinion, or "defending" you're specialty. I guess this is you're professionalism at it's best.

6. The important thing is not who can piss further. We are here to discuss patient care scenarios, music, bikes etc... If you don't agree with one doc's choice of induction agent, then that is a reasonable topic to discuss. The CRNA vs Anesthesiologist thing is just getting a little old as JPP recently made clear.

 

[jetproppilot]

At least one thing has been accomplished here this evening:

Jetropilot's language has drastically improved. Thanks.

You really, really are a trip. I mean really. Who do you think you are? My mother?? Why are you here? Why do you continue to post where nobody wants to see your politically motivated crap???

Wanna talk professionalism? How professional is it of you to be here with your political posts? Why wont you answer the question, Slim/Slimette???


This is MY turf, dude/dudette. You are intruding. Expect an onslaught whenever you post politically charged posts.

 

[jetproppilot]

I ain't said sh1t for a while now, trying to let things kewl down and get back to what IS important - clinical knowledge, even if all I ever learn is less than you forgot (sarcasm implied if you can't tell). Real professional of you to call me out on the last post....

Yeah, ok Slim...why don't you reread your posts, read my 500+ posts, and ask yourself who has professionalism issues. YOU came to this board, you havent even started your career yet, and you started talking like Michael Roizen. I didnt do that. YOU did. And this is a DOCTOR FORUM.

Gimme a ***king break.

 

[jetproppilot]

Originaly posted byJetpropilot March 2005

Nitecap,

I'll start with you.

JWK is a professional. He is valued here. You are not. Go back to your forum. And on the way, go f%ck yourself.
__________________
MOISANT TOWER, CHEYENNE TWO-ONE-TWO-HOTEL-HOTEL, WITH YOU ILS ONE-ZERO, GOOD EVENING..


Millitant CRNA's you say, from your language and tone seems like you are the millitant here. You are right JWK is a professional. I have prob. learned more from his posts than any others. JWK is also very quick to defend and support the AA profession which I totally respect, whether it be on this board or a crna board. Definitely never see him using language as you. Personal threats will get you no where my man, so just stop them now.

Where is your professionalism here? Its for sure not in your language. And not challenging you to anything so dont be so insecure. Last night when I replied to Volitals post I at least used respect. You prob. have forgotten more anesthesia than I have memorized but where will that get you now. Sure hope you dont act out like this regulary. I mean we all blow up every once in a while but doing it on a forum is like someone tape recording it. So if possible can we just throw the personal BS aside. I dont know you and dont care to.

Originally posted by Jet in Mar 2005????? What are you, high? I posted that yesterday, the first day I've EVER resorted to this.

Get your facts straight.

 

[jetproppilot]

Originaly posted byJetpropilot March 2005

Nitecap,

I'll start with you.

JWK is a professional. He is valued here. You are not. Go back to your forum. And on the way, go f%ck yourself.
__________________
MOISANT TOWER, CHEYENNE TWO-ONE-TWO-HOTEL-HOTEL, WITH YOU ILS ONE-ZERO, GOOD EVENING..


Millitant CRNA's you say, from your language and tone seems like you are the millitant here. You are right JWK is a professional. I have prob. learned more from his posts than any others. JWK is also very quick to defend and support the AA profession which I totally respect, whether it be on this board or a crna board. Definitely never see him using language as you. Personal threats will get you no where my man, so just stop them now.

Where is your professionalism here? Its for sure not in your language. And not challenging you to anything so dont be so insecure. Last night when I replied to Volitals post I at least used respect. You prob. have forgotten more anesthesia than I have memorized but where will that get you now. Sure hope you dont act out like this regulary. I mean we all blow up every once in a while but doing it on a forum is like someone tape recording it. So if possible can we just throw the personal BS aside. I dont know you and dont care to.

Originally posted in Mar 2005, what are you, high? Why are you posting inaccurate data? I posted that yesterday.

 

[nitecap]

Originally posted in Mar 2005, what are you, high? Why are you posting inaccurate data? I posted that yesterday.

No not high. In oberserving your reckless temper and freq. outburts maybe it's time you start self medicating now that you bring it up.

 

[jetproppilot]

No not high. In oberserving your reckless temper and freq. outburts maybe it's time you start self medicating now that you bring it up.

Wreckless temper? FREQUENT OUTBURSTS? B4 yesterday, miss srna, I've never posted an extreme post. Why are you making this crap up? And why wont you answer my question of the misleading dates of my post? Thats an inaccurate date maliciously changed by you, Ms. Militant. Why are you here???? Why wont you answer my question????? And why are you changing dates on my posts????

And you question my professionalism, Ms. Inexperienced Nurse On A Doctor Forum????

 

[jetproppilot]

No not high. In oberserving your reckless temper and freq. outburts maybe it's time you start self medicating now that you bring it up.

Frikkin lying terrorist. Go back to your nurse forum. You are not wanted here.

 

[nitecap]

The whole march 2005 thing was a mistake chill. I wanted to respond to your rediculous post on the other thread where you were raging but it was locked d/t your language. I then cut and pasted it to your new thread but it didnt include the date. I mistakenly put March 2005. It was the date you started posting here.

I edited my own post to correct the date. Dont know how thats mallicious in anyway. Anyway what makes you think I am a woman. I have never once disclosed any personal info about myself so dont assume things. You really should check your BP about right now. Sit down and take a few deep breaths. In through your nose and out through your mouth. You sure do let people get under your skin easily and you sure have no restraint when displaying your frustration, aggrevation, humiliation or what ever it is you are doing. You really should think before you speak.

 

[jetproppilot]

The whole march 2005 thing was a mistake chill. I wanted to respond to your rediculous post on the other thread where you were raging but it was locked d/t your language. I then cut and pasted it to your new thread but it didnt include the date. I mistakenly put March 2005. It was the date you started posting here.

I edited my own post to correct the date. Dont know how thats mallicious in anyway. Anyway what makes you think I am a woman. I have never once disclosed any personal info about myself so dont assume things. You really should check your BP about right now. Sit down and take a few deep breaths. In through your nose and out through your mouth. You sure do let people get under your skin easily and you sure have no restraint when displaying your frustration, aggrevation, humiliation or what ever it is you are doing. You really should think before you speak.

Believe me, dudette, I've thought long and hard. This is a premeditated strike.

Of course you terrorists have been coming to this board for some time, and I always overlooked it. But about a month ago anesthesiadrew and another gangsta SRNA came to this board and began posting WAY beyond their experience. WAY beyond. And I was like, WTF?? Why are they even here and why are they talking like they are anesthesia chairmen?

Then last nite I read your posts, and ya know what? It was time. It was time for an experienced, successful, well liked director of an anesthesia department (that would be me), nine years outta residency, to say something. Something STRONG to you out-of-place people posting self-serving political agenda ON AN MD FORUM. Geez, you just dont get it, do you??

And I ask you again, WHY ARE YOU HERE????

 

[jetproppilot]

The whole march 2005 thing was a mistake chill. I wanted to respond to your rediculous post on the other thread where you were raging but it was locked d/t your language. I then cut and pasted it to your new thread but it didnt include the date. I mistakenly put March 2005. It was the date you started posting here.

I edited my own post to correct the date. Dont know how thats mallicious in anyway. Anyway what makes you think I am a woman. I have never once disclosed any personal info about myself so dont assume things. You really should check your BP about right now. Sit down and take a few deep breaths. In through your nose and out through your mouth. You sure do let people get under your skin easily and you sure have no restraint when displaying your frustration, aggrevation, humiliation or what ever it is you are doing. You really should think before you speak.

NO RESTRAINT??? Au contraire. My posts in the last six months speak for themselves. Read them. Do not distort the facts for your own justification. I am not anti crna/aa. Quite the contrary. I am anti paraprofessional-coming-to-an-MD-board-and-stirring-$%it. That would be you and your terrorist counterparts. So keep posting your %&it, and I'm continuing my premeditated, long-overdue SCUD missile counterstrike against you and your terrorist counterparts.

 

[nitecap]

If you did not like my post you really could have aproached the situation a little different. Blowing up and calling me out like that was dickk and pissed me off. Now we have been going at it all day. I will limit the political jargon in my posts, thats not a problem. My post last night wasnt promoting pollitical issues, it was rubuting crap and misinfo that someone else had posted. Look Im am not here to stirr up crap. NOt at all but blowing up like that on me was BS. IF you would actually take a second to read what you type you would realize how rediculous it sounds. I am sure you are a seasoned expert within your profession, but if a lay person would read your post they would prob. doubt it.

Terrorism is a serious issue our country faces. Comparing pro CRNA posters to terrorists is a little over blown huh. Its actually ridiculous that you go off talking about scud missles. You hardly sound like the average director of anesthesia or what ever title you threw out there. I am prob. 15 plus years younger than you but am at least socially aware of my vocabulary and when it is inappropriate.

 

[jetproppilot]

The whole march 2005 thing was a mistake chill. I wanted to respond to your rediculous post on the other thread where you were raging but it was locked d/t your language. I then cut and pasted it to your new thread but it didnt include the date. I mistakenly put March 2005. It was the date you started posting here.

I edited my own post to correct the date. Dont know how thats mallicious in anyway. Anyway what makes you think I am a woman. I have never once disclosed any personal info about myself so dont assume things. You really should check your BP about right now. Sit down and take a few deep breaths. In through your nose and out through your mouth. You sure do let people get under your skin easily and you sure have no restraint when displaying your frustration, aggrevation, humiliation or what ever it is you are doing. You really should think before you speak.

Even MilitaryMD, the Zen man himself, questioned your recent terrorist tactics. If you wont listen to me, listen to the Zenmaster. And that goes for all of your terrorist counterparts as well.

 

[jetproppilot]

If you did not like my post you really could have aproached the situation a little different. Blowing up and calling me out like that was dickk and pissed me off. Now we have been going at it all day. I will limit the political jargon in my posts, thats not a problem. My post last night wasnt promoting pollitical issues, it was rubuting crap and misinfo that someone else had posted. Look Im am not here to stirr up crap. NOt at all but blowing up like that on me was BS. IF you would actually take a second to read what you type you would realize how rediculous it sounds. I am sure you are a seasoned expert within your profession, but if a lay person would read your post they would prob. doubt it.

Terrorism is a serious issue our country faces. Comparing pro CRNA posters to terrorists is a little over blown huh. Its actually ridiculous that you go off talking about scud missles. You hardly sound like the average director of anesthesia or what ever title you threw out there. I am prob. 15 plus years younger than you but am at least socially aware of my vocabulary and when it is inappropriate.

Approach the situation a little different? Again, dudette, you are speaking from an ignorant standpoint. I've posted, and posted, and posted "a little different." And you militants kept posting militantly. Again, my post history speaks for itself.

So, again, I ask you, what are your motivations posting your propaganda on an MD forum?

 

[anesthesiadrew]

Top o' the day to you also MOFO. First off, it was a response to an individual, a freaking COUNTERPOINT. Sometimes a counterpoint is needed to offset something else that was stated, which might be incorrect. Not meant at you, nor anyone else for that matter, except for that WB toughlife. Did I wave the "CRNAs are taking over flag around"? Nope. All I said was CRNAs were capable providers under the guidelines of ATC environment. You have even agreed with this in the past so where you are getting off is beyond me. Try reading my posts dude. What agenda you came up with is all your own. You chose to get involved and now you are acting like a manic 5 year old that keeps coming back with responses, all in a row. Take your med, post a single, measured, and concise post and then STFU.

Why don't you reread your posts, read my 500+ posts, and ask yourself who has professionalism issues.

Since when did posting and showing the intellectual world that you are master of the smilies (alot of your posts) equate with professionalism and when did a raw number directly correlate with professionalism? Since when was being wrong about 5 mg of phenylephrine in an epidural "blowing your carotids out" make you a professional. You tell me chief and while your at it, you

Gimme a ***king break.

because you started this one my friend. If you indeed want to have the biggest pissing match online ever and make both of us look like complete dumbarses, then so be it. This kind of stuff thrills me and actually is the spice of life...But in the end, it will become silly and stupid, both of us trying to come up with clever ways to cursing without actually spelling it so the censors don't cut it out. Real grown up there Mr. MDA from Tulane. All this is would be internet bickering. I was laying low until you started in on me...In real life your probably a cool guy, guess what - I am too dude. And in real life you would not be saying the sh1t you said earlier, guaranteed. So hide behind the keyboard and strut your stuff for your circle jerk friends.

Speaking of that, you probably aren't the smartest thing Tulane ever graduated. Mr. post-my-pic on the internet, tell everyone where I live and work, state your future location (A$A convention) and tell everyone what you just might be arriving in (Yukon XL - correct?) and then get your jolllies off by telling complete strangers to go F off. Not real bright there surfer cracker dude from Florida. So much for highly educated bra.

DISCLAIMER TO THE COPS: NOT A THREAT, JUST ADVICE THAT THIS ISN'T THE SMARTEST THING TO BE DOING ON A PUBLIC FORUM.

Oh and

I've accomplished more in the last year than you will ever accomplish. I've forgotten more anesthesia then you'll ever memorize

is absolute bull**** and **** you very much. Oh look, it doesn't take an MD degree to type F_U_C_K YOU S_U_M_B_I_T_C_H so here's to acting like 2 year olds.

 

[lvspro]

Talk all you want, but you still haven't answered his question: what purpose are any para's serving by coming to OUR forum, and posting politically motivated propaganda? I'm behind JPP all the way.
Had all of you stayed nice, and not continued trampling on the eternal patience the anesthesiologists were displaying then we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead you come here and start arguments with a group of peace loving people, and then have the sac to say we are being militant when we respond in kind.
I give this thread about 5 posts b4 it closes... any takers?

 

[jetproppilot]

Talk all you want, but you still haven't answered his question: what purpose are any para's serving by coming to OUR forum, and posting politically motivated propaganda? I'm behind JPP all the way.
Had all of you stayed nice, and not continued trampling on the eternal patience the anesthesiologists were displaying then we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead you come here and start arguments with a group of peace loving people, and then have the sac to say we are being militant when we respond in kind.
I give this thread about 5 posts b4 it closes... any takers?

WELL, militant paras?? Why wont you answer the question?? Why are you here??

I'm defending my turf against YOUR incessant, militant intrusion. Interpret that however you want, but its pretty simple. I've had enough.

 

[blocks]

Whatever troll. You have been on this site for years posting political, inflammatory crap. You have yet to add anything of merit to the discussion on any level. You pop your head up every time the idea is put forth that CRNAs and anesthesiologists serve different roles, and that CRNAs should not be completely unsupervised. In your wisdom, why have you not added to the clinical threads, SRNA? Why have you not engaged in friendly, non-argumentative discourse about the places you have trained, interesting war stories, etc.? Number 1, because it deviates from your political talking points that CRNA's can and should do anything that anesthesiologists can do. Number 2, because you are a turd.

You should have been tossed from this site a long, long time ago.

If you did not like my post you really could have aproached the situation a little different. Blowing up and calling me out like that was dickk and pissed me off. Now we have been going at it all day. I will limit the political jargon in my posts, thats not a problem. My post last night wasnt promoting pollitical issues, it was rubuting crap and misinfo that someone else had posted. Look Im am not here to stirr up crap. NOt at all but blowing up like that on me was BS. IF you would actually take a second to read what you type you would realize how rediculous it sounds. I am sure you are a seasoned expert within your profession, but if a lay person would read your post they would prob. doubt it.

Terrorism is a serious issue our country faces. Comparing pro CRNA posters to terrorists is a little over blown huh. Its actually ridiculous that you go off talking about scud missles. You hardly sound like the average director of anesthesia or what ever title you threw out there. I am prob. 15 plus years younger than you but am at least socially aware of my vocabulary and when it is inappropriate.

 

[nitecap]

Lyspro,

Arent you just a med student maybe you are in practice but thought you said earlier you were a med student. Dude you may not even have grades to even go into the field so please spare me. If you are just a med student then your knowledege of anesthesia is very poor at best so please step down boy.

This is a public forum last time I checked, that allows anyone to post here as long as they follow the rules. If this forum were not open to the public then I would not be able to access it, nor be able to post. Just get one thing straight. No one is trasspassing on anyones forum. This forum is here for me to use as much as it is for you to use. I will use it whenever i want without even thinking twice.

I know doctors are medically and even some scientifically smart or intelligent, but street smart and socially smart you guys are not. JPP and Lyspro your post sound so childish, its actually pretty funny to know that a director of anesthesia of a group or institution that them themselves flaunt to the public would stoop that low and speak, argue or debate (what ever we are doing) in such an ignorant, unprofessional almost desperate tones. Come on now JPP grow up and step up to the level of the position that you hold.

 

[jetproppilot]

Lyspro,

Arent you just a med student maybe you are in practice but thought you said earlier you were a med student. Dude you may not even have grades to even go into the field so please spare me. If you are just a med student then your knowledege of anesthesia is very poor at best so please step down boy.

This is a public forum last time I checked, that allows anyone to post here as long as they follow the rules. If this forum were not open to the public then I would not be able to access it, nor be able to post. Just get one thing straight. No one is trasspassing on anyones forum. This forum is here for me to use as much as it is for you to use. I will use it whenever i want without even thinking twice.

I know doctors are medically and even some scientifically smart or intelligent, but street smart and socially smart you guys are not. JPP and Lyspro your post sound so childish, its actually pretty funny to know that a director of anesthesia of a group or institution that them themselves flaunt to the public would stoop that low and speak, argue or debate (what ever we are doing) in such an ignorant, unprofessional almost desperate tones. Come on now JPP grow up and step up to the level of the position that you hold.

No, whats funny is that an SRNA comes to an MD forum with politically controversial material (incessantly) and cries wolf when someone steps up to the mike with micatin and calls them on it, albeit in anger.

Ignorant? Unprofessional? Call it whatever you wish but you and your counterparts have had it coming a long, long time.

And I guess I'll stop asking you to justify why you are here with your politically motivated posts. Your mum, diverted response speaks volumes.

 

[nitecap]

Blocks not sure where you get your info from. I think I have a total of like 30 something posts on this board since 2004. Just recently have I even interjected in any posts concerning political issues.

Listen this was b/t JPP and me and anesthesiadrew which JPP brought into this rudely. I apologize to you reg. and respectable posters if you are disgusted with this type of BS. My posts though discussing a topic you may not like or may be tired of reading are clean, informative, real and for the most part state my opinion backed with facts. Though at times cocky I have never once called anybody out, threatened anyone or did any sort of act that was done by JPP today.

Bottom line is this aurguement is over. This is a public forum relating to anesthesia, therefore I have a right to be here. I will continue to frequent this board and in the instance of misinformation or attacks I will put in my 2 cents. I am always up for a constructive debate or critizism but this went way to far and got way to personal. We all know who started the personal attacks, so if anyone should be told to simmer down by moderators than it should be he.

Done here for now. Wasted way to much time bickering with so called professionals that without a doubt had pseudo professional demeanors and handling of situations. I will let the hard feelings and embarassment cool. See you around, and have a great night.

 

[jetproppilot]

We all know who started the personal attacks

Uh, that would be you, and your srna counterparts, with your incessant militant posts, on this PHYSICIAN forum.

Let the embarrassment cool? Whos embarrassed? Ever seen a heart surgeon blow up justifiably? Ever seen a baseball manager charge the umpire?

Sometimes one has to step up to the mike. And I did. Call it what you wish, but I, and pretty much everyone else here, wishes that you'd disappear into the internet wonderland.

 

[EW1779]

Dear post,

Please get involved in a horrible, horrible MVA and be so terribly disfigured that you're too embarassed to ever return.

much love,
ew


sorry to one up the person who originally posted the "thread please die" but i thought it needed to be seconded.