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I'm applying to OUCOM this year and am very interested in the PCC curriculum. For those of you at OUCOM, when do students apply for the PCC track? I'm wondering if you find out if you're accepted to PCC shortly after you're accepted or when you enter in the fall...Thanks in advance for any input.
 
Punchap said:
I'm applying to OUCOM this year and am very interested in the PCC curriculum. For those of you at OUCOM, when do students apply for the PCC track? I'm wondering if you find out if you're accepted to PCC shortly after you're accepted or when you enter in the fall...Thanks in advance for any input.
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If I remember correctly the PCC application is sent along with the other application and after acceptance you will find out if you were accepted into the PCC curriculum. You should know before school starts, but not at the same time as you are accepted into school. Most people that apply get into the curriculum, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
 
DORoe said:
If I remember correctly the PCC application is sent along with the other application and after acceptance you will find out if you were accepted into the PCC curriculum. You should know before school starts, but not at the same time as you are accepted into school. Most people that apply get into the curriculum, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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Cool...thanks. 😀
 
Punchap said:
I'm applying to OUCOM this year and am very interested in the PCC curriculum. For those of you at OUCOM, when do students apply for the PCC track? I'm wondering if you find out if you're accepted to PCC shortly after you're accepted or when you enter in the fall...Thanks in advance for any input.
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My advice to you is NOT to go into the PCC. Many of the people that go into the PCC are incredibly lazy and/or weird and will drive you nuts. Plus, the many potential personality conflicts (both student-to-student and facilitator-to-student) could drive you to alcohol or worse.

I survived PCC with only a moderate alcohol dependency and just a few homicidal thoughts, but without ideation or a plan.

In all seriousness, though, my advice to you is go into the default CPC curriculum and just skip classes as needed, review the lectures online with the intranet's voice and powerpoint lectures, and you'll be fine. Yes, problem-based learning is glamorous and all, but in the end you all learn the same things.

If I had to do it again I would've gone CPC.
 
Shinken said:
My advice to you is NOT to go into the PCC. Many of the people that go into the PCC are incredibly lazy and/or weird and will drive you nuts. Plus, the many potential personality conflicts (both student-to-student and facilitator-to-student) could drive you to alcohol or worse.

I survived PCC with only a moderate alcohol dependency and just a few homicidal thoughts, but without ideation or a plan.

In all seriousness, though, my advice to you is go into the default CPC curriculum and just skip classes as needed, review the lectures online with the intranet's voice and powerpoint lectures, and you'll be fine. Yes, problem-based learning is glamorous and all, but in the end you all learn the same things.

If I had to do it again I would've gone CPC.
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Good to know..thanks for your input.

I noticed your profile says Cleveland? Do you do rotations/residency there?
 
See Shinken and I are in the same class and feel totally opposite about our experience. I loved doing the PCC, but he is right people can be very strange/lazy/difficult to work with which can cause a lot of problems (of course Shinken and I were wonderful group members). Make sure that you sit in a group before you make the final decision as to what you want to do.
 
Punchap,

I recognize that this thread was started as a question regarding the application to the PCC program, but I have some unsolicited advice for you. As far as PCC/CPC goes - I don't think it matters so much which you choose - both turn out SOBs like Student Doctor Roe (just kidding, Sean). I would, however, recommend that you consider other schools altogether. OUCOM is in the midst of making changes in the requirements for scheduling 3rd/4th year rotations. These changes will make it difficult for you to complete rotations at hospitals outside of OU's CORE. This, in turn, may limit your choices for post-grad training programs. Other programs (e.g. DMU, Kirksville, etc.) are much less restrictive in the scheduling of 3rd/4th year electives, and thus their students have greater choice in visiting other programs. Something to consider.
 
Although I haven't rotated there as a medical student, I did do some volunteering...I recommend the Free Clinic of Greater Cleveland. Tell Dr. Steve Punchap says hi...actually, he won't know who that is, so nevermind.

Enjoy the mistake by the lake that is Cleveland! Oh I miss it. 😛
 
yoosername said:
Punchap,

I recognize that this thread was started as a question regarding the application to the PCC program, but I have some unsolicited advice for you. As far as PCC/CPC goes - I don't think it matters so much which you choose - both turn out SOBs like Student Doctor Roe (just kidding, Sean). I would, however, recommend that you consider other schools altogether. OUCOM is in the midst of making changes in the requirements for scheduling 3rd/4th year rotations. These changes will make it difficult for you to complete rotations at hospitals outside of OU's CORE. This, in turn, may limit your choices for post-grad training programs. Other programs (e.g. DMU, Kirksville, etc.) are much less restrictive in the scheduling of 3rd/4th year electives, and thus their students have greater choice in visiting other programs. Something to consider.
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If this is true you probably should think twice. It is already a bit restrictive and to make it more so would put you at a pretty big disadvantage for competitive specialties.
 
I just received their secondary today but I am stuck as to what to say on the essay. I mean I know what the questions ask but I just want to make sure I hit the main points that are really important to them. What do you guys think? Any OUCOMers out there?
 
Sistahnik,

OUCOM was formed in order to meet Ohio's demand for primary care physicians, especially in underserved areas. So they like to hear how you plan to practice family medicine, internal medicine, peds, etc in a rural area or urban clinic, that sort of thing. Additionally, it's a DO school, so you should probably talk about how admire the osteopathic philosophy of "treating the person as a whole" and are interested in incorporating manipulative treatment in the practice of medicine. Besides that it should be a pretty standard personal statement: Why you want to go into medicine, why you'll be good at it, where you see yourself in 10 years, etc.

Good luck!
 
Thank you so much yoosername. I guess I'm on the right track then. 😉
 
Just trying to find out if anyone knows someone at OUCOM who got an interview invite when the LOR's were received but not the secondary. Thanks for all the help guys!
 
sistahnik said:
I just received their secondary today but I am stuck as to what to say on the essay. I mean I know what the questions ask but I just want to make sure I hit the main points that are really important to them. What do you guys think? Any OUCOMers out there?
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Make sure you check out SDN's interview feedback archive. It's pretty useful to get an idea of what questions people thought were the toughest.
 
Hey guys,

I just stumbled across this threat and I have to say its made me a little nervous. I am currently a second year medical student at OUCOM and am not aware of the "restrictions" in 3rd/4th year that you are talking about? Could you elaborate? Why are they implementing these restrictions and is there anything we can do about it besides vent at yet another focus group?
 
megswinter82, if you'd like, you can send me a private message
 
So are you guys saying that future students will have to do all of their 3rd and 4th year in Ohio? Wouldn't that be a good thing though?
 
I'm not saying that you HAVE to do all of your 3rd/4th years in Ohio. Only that these new restrictions will make it difficult for you to rotate outside the CORE, which is all of about 12 or so hospitals. When it comes time start thinking about residency, this will be a bother since it behooves you to rotate at a hospital you think you'd like to train, both to see what the program is like and to demonstrate to the docs there that you'll be a good fit for their program. Certainly there are many good residency programs in OU's CORE, especially in family practice. But the training available in the CORE will not suit every student's needs. For example, there are no psychiatry residencies in the CORE. There is only one pediatrics residency. Ditto for neurology. This is why it is important that OUCOMers be able to do out rotations at non-CORE hospitals, whether they're in Ohio or elsewhere.
 
The PCC rocks. There is absolutely no better way to learn medicine. I was more than pleased with my decision to do that curriculum. Bottom line though, try to sit through a group session and see if you enjoy it. As for the new 3rd/4th year restrictions, if true, would give me serious concern for choosing OU again. Although, I really enjoyed OUCOM and would recommend it to anyone who asked.
 
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