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feeling it too. i'm on the west and it seems like programs out here have sent out fewer invites, so I'm being patient. maybe next week will be ours!
 
Applied anesthesia, around 80 programs total across the country (+20 prelims split between IM and TY).
24x/24x
55x/62x
Pass PE first attempt

0 invites. I understand it's still very early, but It's just demoralizing seeing MDs with 21x or 22x have 3+ invites already meanwhile I'm just sitting here waiting to hear back from anything. No red flags, solid LORs, ECs, etc.

How's everyone else doing?
Lol you will easily match anesthesia, relax...
 
209/249
495/599
Have not taken PE yet
Applied 117 IM/10 FM, so far 1 FM and 2 IM invites. Hoping to get an invite from the IM program I want to go next two weeks.
Good luck guys! We can do this
I have similar stats and I'm applying IM. I haven't heard anything yet. I hope i have the same luck.
 
It's seriously been only 3 business days since the applications have been released to programs. Relax, it's early.
Wait it's been 3 days and people already freaking out??? Sounds like pre-med stuff. Be better... This isn't a good look for osteopathy.
 
Wait it's been 3 days and people already freaking out??? Sounds like pre-med stuff. Be better... This isn't a good look for osteopathy.
It's okay to be freaking out about decisions that will determine the rest of your career. And for the record, people from MDs to IMGs are freaking out. This isn't an osteopathic problem, no need to be a jerk.
 
Along with what everyone else has said, we have no idea what other factors vary between you and these applicants you're comparing yourself to. E.g. LORs, personal connections, some interesting history prior to med school that caught their eye, or even what programs they applied to or where they fell on the review stack by pure coincidence.

I know how you feel, and these are all things I have to tell myself too. We got this🙂
 
I hope you realize that anesthesiology applicants and applications are up again this year. The average program is now getting >1100 applications which is an all-time high. It can take time for programs to sort through all those apps (even if they use a prescreening filter).
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Where can you see this data about the 2021 class already? I'm curious to look at other specialties.
 
Wait it's been 3 days and people already freaking out??? Sounds like pre-med stuff. Be better... This isn't a good look for osteopathy.

To be fair, the interview season brings out the worst of insecurities and anxieties. How people having some rookie "Am I doomed?"isms is hardly isolated to DOs only.
 
I am an off cycle 4th year with a MLOA on my application and have 6 interviews and multiple supplemental questions. Below average board scores (COMLEX only) and average extracurriculars. I am not feeling much bias at the moment
 
The bias definitely exists and differs based on specialty. As kthals123 pointed out, the actual programs make a difference. Someone applying primarily well-known historic MD programs is in a different situation than the person applying community and prior AOA programs.
 
Applying psych and only have 1 interview invite right now and a few secondaries.
 
It’s literally been 7 days. And people expect programs to have run through 1000 apps and made decisions immediately. Not like these people have other duties like patient care or anything...I know everyone’s used to being first off the pile of interviews and such like it was for med school but this is a different animal

I don’t remember ever seeing this much neuroticism and insanity in previous years but maybe I wasn’t paying as much attention cuz I wasn’t in it. I know COVID makes things different but dear god guys everyone chill out.
 
It’s literally been 7 days. And people expect programs to have run through 1000 apps and made decisions immediately. Not like these people have other duties like patient care or anything...I know everyone’s used to being first off the pile of interviews and such like it was for med school but this is a different animal

I don’t remember ever seeing this much neuroticism and insanity in previous years but maybe I wasn’t paying as much attention cuz I wasn’t in it. I know COVID makes things different but dear god guys everyone chill out.

It happens every year, but usually its a couple weeks in, not days in. Everyone is more anxious right now for both application-related and global reasons.

I'll also add that it tends to be build exponentially the further we go through the cycle on the DO side, with a lot of doom and gloom about anti-DO bias, and sharply drops off after match-day when the vast majority realize things weren't so bad.
 
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I mean, I'm definitely running into some DO filters, but I've been pleasantly surprised at some of the invites I've gotten. The DO bias is definitely there, but I agree that it's going to take time. Invites will probably keep going out all the way into December..
 
It’s literally been 7 days. And people expect programs to have run through 1000 apps and made decisions immediately. Not like these people have other duties like patient care or anything...I know everyone’s used to being first off the pile of interviews and such like it was for med school but this is a different animal

I don’t remember ever seeing this much neuroticism and insanity in previous years but maybe I wasn’t paying as much attention cuz I wasn’t in it. I know COVID makes things different but dear god guys everyone chill out.
More than 1,000. Way more. My little program got over 700 US MD/DO applicants on day 1 for four slots, split about 50/50. And then there's about that many IMG applicants.
 
I have commented on this before. I believe in anesthesia, the DO pile gets looked at later in the process. One of my students had 240+ Step 1, non trad. Had no interviews until Dec. I called one program on their behalf and they received an interview. In total, 3 top 10 interviews and accepted at their #1, which many consider #1 in the nation.
Calm yourself, this is gonna take some time. Good luck and best wishes!
 
^ This 100%. I got interviews at 2 places that I'm semi-underqualifying for because an attending reached out. If you have anybody with that relationship, big time or not, have them do it. Especially if they trained at that program. Mine was from a couple community, general neurologists that happened to go to residency at these programs
 
Y'll think the neuroticism is bad here? Try the anesthesia discord... I think it's reasonable especially with this cycle for DOs. No away rotations, LoRs that may not be in their field, applicants over-applying, no dinners or in person evaluations. Even the interview days are shortened. People with below average apps were banking on those to boost their chances. So the confirmation bias is definitely not doing anyone's insecurities any favors.

Let's just try to support each other and show more empathy. It's easy to tell someone everything will be okay when you crossed the bridge already. And more often than not, telling a med student to calm down usually = putting more fuel into the fire.
 
Comlex only applying IM with low 500s level 1 score. I legitimately have gotten over 20 interview invites about half from university programs and stronger community programs rest is DO programs. Not sure if random luck or if there is something else in my app drawing interest
 
Y'll think the neuroticism is bad here? Try the anesthesia discord... I think it's reasonable especially with this cycle for DOs. No away rotations, LoRs that may not be in their field, applicants over-applying, no dinners or in person evaluations. Even the interview days are shortened. People with below average apps were banking on those to boost their chances. So the confirmation bias is definitely not doing anyone's insecurities any favors.

Let's just try to support each other and show more empathy. It's easy to tell someone everything will be okay when you crossed the bridge already. And more often than not, telling a med student to calm down usually = putting more fuel into the fire.
I think for the most part replies have been supportive, a couple a little blunt. I have been seeing this trend with anesthesia giving late interviews to strong DO applicants for 3 or 4 cycles now. This year is a mess all around. But as someone said above, this bias talk all settles down after match day. Hang in there, match day is like 5 months away.
 
DO applying EM with 22x/23x and 55x/59x scores. 6 Interviews so far and 1 rejection. 2 are former DO programs and 2 were from a places i auditioned (1 regular and 1 subspecialty rotation). No geographic ties to any of them. One at university program in a major city I met the APD during the EMRA residency fair and networked with residents a few months back.
 
Comlex only applying IM with low 500s level 1 score. I legitimately have gotten over 20 interview invites about half from university programs and stronger community programs rest is DO programs. Not sure if random luck or if there is something else in my app drawing interest
Which regions are those programs if you don't mind me asking?
 
Every year a thread like this one inevitably appears. It happened when I applied last year. The short answer, yes there is a bias and there will be programs that won’t take a glance at you. However, there are some great programs that will look at you. The invites tend to come in later in the cycle so don’t feel brow beaten yet.
 
I'm feeling the bias strongly in EM but not as much in IM (or maybe I am but am oblivious to it). I've gotten 2 interviews for EM (applied to 50) and 6 for IM (applied to 40). USDO 243/237, COMLEX 538/578. I'm kinda glad I ended up dual-applying because perhaps I overestimated my EM application if I got a not-so-hot SLOE.

I have classmates who have not taken USMLEs and are getting a bunch of IM community program interviews. I have a few applying gas you have I think like 8-10 interviews lined up -- their scores are competitive.
 
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I'm feeling the bias strongly in EM but not as much in IM (or maybe I am but am oblivious to it). I've gotten 2 interviews for EM (applied to 50) and 6 for IM (applied to 40). USDO 243/237, COMLEX 538/578. I'm kinda glad I ended up dual-applying because perhaps I overestimated my EM application if I got a not-so-hot SLOE.

I have classmates who have not taken USMLEs and are getting a bunch of IM community program interviews. I have a few applying gas you have I think like 8-10 interviews lined up -- their scores are competitive.
Do you think you applied top-heavy for EM? What was you community/county/Uni program split out of those 50. I'm a DO with 228/238 and have 18 IIs for EM (canceled a few), applied to 70 (50% were community, 50% were county/Uni).
 
Theres definitely bias of not having a home program.

It feels like a lot of programs are just banking on their own students sticking around for residency.

They are Playing it safe. Especially without as much exposure to students via sub-I. Just makes it harder to risk. And DO students are absolutely going to feel it this year.

For any DO who anecdotally has a lot of interviews this seasons: firstly, congrats. But that doesn’t mean everyone else is. You may have something very unique like a strong leadership position, research that helped you stand up and allow programs to take a chance in you.
 
Every year a thread like this one inevitably appears. It happened when I applied last year. The short answer, yes there is a bias and there will be programs that won’t take a glance at you. However, there are some great programs that will look at you. The invites tend to come in later in the cycle so don’t feel brow beaten yet.

how late in the cycle do we wait until? and when is it time to start freaking out about not having enough lol

I'm trying to be patient and wait for the next waves to come from people who HOPEFULLY cancel but i feel like they wont since theres no traveling required. i feel like most of the interviews are going to the same chunk of MD's and they're hoarding them all
 
how late in the cycle do we wait until? and when is it time to start freaking out about not having enough lol

I'm trying to be patient and wait for the next waves to come from people who HOPEFULLY cancel but i feel like they wont since theres no traveling required. i feel like most of the interviews are going to the same chunk of MD's and they're hoarding them all

I think there is a real concern in people not canceling interviews because they are all virtual. It’s still not productive to freak out. Eventually people get tired of doing interviews because they are tiresome. I think I started canceling interviews from the middle of December on. I was just burnt out. This is a different ball game without traveling but the interview process itself is still tiring.
 
I think there is a real concern in people not canceling interviews because they are all virtual. It’s still not productive to freak out. Eventually people get tired of doing interviews because they are tiresome. I think I started canceling interviews from the middle of December on. I was just burnt out. This is a different ball game without traveling but the interview process itself is still tiring.
Some people are on online rotations as well. So it makes it even easier to hold more interviews.
 
Some people are on online rotations as well. So it makes it even easier to hold more interviews.
My school is letting us do up to 4 months of online courses this year bc of COVID. I know people who were able to make their entire interview season virtual.
 
Applied GS, ~50 programs. 24X/26X. A few II and secondaries trickling in.

*Update: definitely feeling a bias from academic/university programs. Have 5-10 II's but all from community programs. Received "thank you for applying, we have sent out all interviews for the year" from 6 academic programs this week.
 
Applied GS, ~50 programs. 24X/26X. A few II and secondaries trickling in.

*Update: definitely feeling a bias from academic/university programs. Have 5-10 II's but all from community programs. Received "thank you for applying, we have sent out all interviews for the year" from 6 academic programs this week.
Crush your interviews, work super hard in residency, and snag a fellowship at those university programs. That will really stick in their craw
 
Applied GS, ~50 programs. 24X/26X. A few II and secondaries trickling in.

*Update: definitely feeling a bias from academic/university programs. Have 5-10 II's but all from community programs. Received "thank you for applying, we have sent out all interviews for the year" from 6 academic programs this week.

Do you have any publications? I have a friend with very similar board scores with almost 20 GS interviews and several at academic programs, but has a very solid research resume. DOs with research seem to be a hot commodity in GS this year (likely due to the merger)
 
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