Aamc 8

[tank you]

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so, is everyone gonna purchase it? and is it even more updated than 7, or do they both contain new material?

 

[DrBorisCA]

Has this test been added recently? First time I saw it....

 

[SuNNNy84]

Can you print out this exam or only take it online?

 

[natureboy]

Agh. They released it one week too late. I already have AAMC tests 6R and 7 planned. We'll see how I do on the April administration...if not, I'll be seeing you PT8 this summer. Hopefully that will not have to happen. I would suspect a paper version by then as they have a photo of it up now. I also think it's like the other tests in that you can print them out.

 

[Overeducated]

I bought it. I think I'll do it on April 9. I'm taking AAMC-7 on April 2.

 

[optimistique]

I had everthing planned out as well.I wish they would have given a "pre-announcement"

Nevertheless, I will be buying 8 and leaving 5r for later.

 

[Turkeyman]

THOSE *(@# $@$&!#!! ive already bought enough tests

 

[americanidiot]

could someone who has tests 7 and 8 in .pdf form PM me? I would appreciate it very much!

 

[stoleyerscrubz]

At least they did change the prices on 3R-7. That would really pis* me off. in fact I logged into my account to see if they changed the price.

 

[aamartin81]

At least they did change the prices on 3R-7. That would really pis* me off. in fact I logged into my account to see if they changed the price.

How did they change the prices? Tests 3R through 6R are still the online membership for $80, while test 7 and 8 cost $40 each.

Confused,

Adam

 

[stoleyerscrubz]

they did not change the price. I only said that I checked to see if they did. sorry.

How did they change the prices? Tests 3R through 6R are still the online membership for $80, while test 7 and 8 cost $40 each.

Confused,

Adam

 

[pseudoknot]

I just took AAMC 8. It seems pretty comparable to the other two I've taken (3R & 4R). I had the same BS scores on all three, PS went up one point from the other two, and VR was the same as in 3R (but lower than 4R). I think the claims that 3R's verbal section is unusually easy are wrong or exaggerated. Also, I didn't notice any huge emphasis on genetics in BS. There was a question requiring you to know the C13 NMR of a carbonyl carbon, which surprised me because I thought ExamKrackers claimed we didn't have to know that.

 

[cheapdate]

I just bought AAMC 8, email me at [email protected] if anyone wants to "talk" about the test.

i browsed through it, it looks VERY similar to the August 2004 mcat...i recognized about 3-4 identicle questions. One the the writing sample prompts were identical as mine. I think its a Mix of the last 2 years and its different versions.

If you already took the mcat, why are you buy 8R for?

 

[SailCrazy]

I guess they're looking to suck more money out of us!!

 

[SilvrGrey330]

If you already took the mcat, why are you buy 8R for?


cuz im a re-taker... 🙁

 

[gujuDoc]

If you already took the mcat, why are you buy 8R for?


cuz im a re-taker... 🙁

If I email you is there a chance I can get a copy of this on pdf? I don't have a credit card I can use to purchase it myself at the moment, otherwise I would've got it.

 

[natureboy]

I just took AAMC 8. It seems pretty comparable to the other two I've taken (3R & 4R). I had the same BS scores on all three, PS went up one point from the other two, and VR was the same as in 3R (but lower than 4R). I think the claims that 3R's verbal section is unusually easy are wrong or exaggerated. Also, I didn't notice any huge emphasis on genetics in BS. There was a question requiring you to know the C13 NMR of a carbonyl carbon, which surprised me because I thought ExamKrackers claimed we didn't have to know that.

If I recall correctly, I think the EK orgo book says that carbon NMR may show up on the MCAT...didn't they just say to treat it similarly to HNMR? I don't have the book with me right now. Guess I should probably go over that area one more time. heh. I also recall reading people also reporting one carbon NMR on the MCAT in 2001 or 2002.

 

[MollyMalone]

Just took AAMC 8... have not taken any of the other AAMC tests, have done Kaplan FL 1-3.

My performance sucked compared to FL #3 (but I rocked that one unrealistically so I guess I'm not too terribly surprised). BS was fairly consistent with all my Kaplan scores, PS was on the low end of my Kaplan range, and VR under my Kaplan range. Possibly this was due to me taking it in the evening instead of in the AM and on computer rather than on paper... or maybe I'm just making excuses. 🙄

I am now officially a bit more nervous about the real deal... but hey, that just gives me more motivation to study!

 

[spongiebob]

Would anyone who has aamc #8 be willing to trade? i have mcats 3r-7 with solutions/detailed solutions, and also kaplan mcats 1-11 with solutions. Thanks 🙂

 

[frankrizzo18]

For those that bought test 8 on the aamc site, do they give you feedback on how test-takers that took that actual test did? In the practice booklets they provide the corresponding answer to a specific question and the frequency of people that answered the question correctly. Thanks. Do they also provide a scoring table so you can see how close/far you were from the next scoring bracket? thanks

 

[champali]

I was wondering if anyone out there had the AAMC 8?? 😕 I have the MCAT coming up and I am so understudied! Please Please email me if you have AAMC 8 and I can trade you for the many other MCAT or MD admissions things I have!

Email:[email protected]
AIM: UIUCALI

Be my hero! lol thanksss guys!

 

[pseudoknot]

For those that bought test 8 on the aamc site, do they give you feedback on how test-takers that took that actual test did? In the practice booklets they provide the corresponding answer to a specific question and the frequency of people that answered the question correctly. Thanks. Do they also provide a scoring table so you can see how close/far you were from the next scoring bracket? thanks

They don't, unfortunately. There is a breakdown of how many you get right or wrong by difficulty of question, but the individual questions are not identified.

 

[marimiyaz]

Hello everyone I'm new here although I've been browsing for a bit.

Currently taking a kaplan review course and studying for the april mcats.

I was wondering to those who are taking kaplan - how do you get electronic access to kaplan full-lengths 6-11? I can't seem to find those on my online syllabus. If anyone has these and is willing to trade them for my amcas exams (i have 3R-8) let me know! I don't know, maybe i'm just not seeing these full-lengths on the kaplan website?

Thanks anyone for your help and good luck to those taking it in april 04!

 

[marimiyaz]

^--- oops i meant april 05, good luck to those taking it in april 05.

My brain is frazzled from too many acid base problems, I reckon.

 

[blz]

anyone know the scale for this test?

 

[marimiyaz]

yeesh okay hate to disappoint and i'm really sorry to all those who pmed me but no more requests guys (i guess lots of people taking kaplan). first off i'm a fool and discovered where my kaplan 6-11 exams are on my syllabus (i guess you have to click on show all assignments or something). second my email is being flooded by pms every minute so I've given up checking them and I need to figure out a way to turn off the notification of pm feature anyway, so i won't even be getting your requests.

Ok good luck to you guys, just invest the 40 bucks in exam 8 it's worth it for access to the answers and explanations (which i would not be able to offer you even if i were to send you amcas 8 since amcas prevents us from printing or downloading any answers).

Again apologies to all those who i may disappoint 😳 and i sincerely wish you guys the best of luck! Make sure you get your hands on atleast some of the amcas exams!!!! 😳

 

[tank you]

so has anyone taken the test yet? if u have, is it harder/easier than 7?

 

[BaylorGuy]

I'm taking this test on wednesday, but i realized that i dont have any of the answers. Does anyone out there have the answers to aamc 8??? PM me

 

[SlippingSloth]

I just took aamc 8 but do not have the answers or a scale. Could someone with those PM me. Thanks

 

[tigress]

You can't print out the answers. So I took it and checked it online but I don't have the answers available. Sorry. That's one of the problems with getting the tests illegally -- you don't have access to the answers. (not to assume everybody asking for answers is in this category but certainly some are). Actually it's somewhat shocking that so many people are willing to share tests. I understand that they are expensive, but the risk to yourself and to everybody else is great. If they catch you sharing, they can ban you from taking the MCAT and they can sue you. And they could also make access to tests restrictive for anybody who wants to get them legitimately. As future doctors I think we should really have higher ethical standards.
(and I'm no goody-two-shoes, either)

 

[bodi]

For people that have taken the AAMC 8 exam, could you please post your scores? I know there aren't that many to compare with, yet, but I was pretty disappoinited in mine.

10PS
8VR

I haven't taken the BS section yet. My schedule is so busy I can only do sections at a time. I have been averaging 10 on VR and BS, and 12 on PS, but already I have dropped 4 points!

Thanks,
bodi

 

[gujuDoc]

You can't print out the answers. So I took it and checked it online but I don't have the answers available. Sorry. That's one of the problems with getting the tests illegally -- you don't have access to the answers. (not to assume everybody asking for answers is in this category but certainly some are). Actually it's somewhat shocking that so many people are willing to share tests. I understand that they are expensive, but the risk to yourself and to everybody else is great. If they catch you sharing, they can ban you from taking the MCAT and they can sue you. And they could also make access to tests restrictive for anybody who wants to get them legitimately. As future doctors I think we should really have higher ethical standards.
(and I'm no goody-two-shoes, either)

Wow I cannot believe what yoou just implied. I don't think that a person giving a practice test to someone is unethical and I do not believe it says anything about someone's future practices as a doctor. Cheating may be, and selling it illegally maybe unethical. But letting someone use your account to gain access to the test is not that big of a deal. Frankly in my opinion it is no different than if say my brother or cousin paid for it since I didn't have the money so that I could use it. There are a lot greater things that are unethical like people cheating and selling things illegally. But trust me, this is nowhere near the category of the latter two.

 

[tank you]

Wow I cannot believe what yoou just implied. I don't think that a person giving a practice test to someone is unethical and I do not believe it says anything about someone's future practices as a doctor. Cheating may be, and selling it illegally maybe unethical. But letting someone use your account to gain access to the test is not that big of a deal. Frankly in my opinion it is no different than if say my brother or cousin paid for it since I didn't have the money so that I could use it. There are a lot greater things that are unethical like people cheating and selling things illegally. But trust me, this is nowhere near the category of the latter two.

not to mention most pre-meds are poor/cheap to begin with.

 

[tigress]

Wow I cannot believe what yoou just implied. I don't think that a person giving a practice test to someone is unethical and I do not believe it says anything about someone's future practices as a doctor. Cheating may be, and selling it illegally maybe unethical. But letting someone use your account to gain access to the test is not that big of a deal. Frankly in my opinion it is no different than if say my brother or cousin paid for it since I didn't have the money so that I could use it. There are a lot greater things that are unethical like people cheating and selling things illegally. But trust me, this is nowhere near the category of the latter two.

I agree that many things are more unethical than giving your AAMC test to somebody, but the latter is still unethical. Not to mention illegal. AAMC specifically says you aren't allowed to do this. I don't think I'm off in saying it's wrong.

Here's what the AAMC says about it: "In consideration of being permitted to take this practice test, I affirm that I am bound on my honor to take the practice test without sharing the content in any form including printed, electronic, voice, or other means. . . . I understand that if the AAMC has reason to believe that I have violated this non-disclosure statement, it may, at its discretion, bar me from future practice tests and/or examinations, or take other appropriate actions."

So aside from violating this agreement, you are risking being barred from ever taking the MCAT and also being sued. That sounds extreme, but they do have copyright. I agree they should make the tests cheaper, and it stinks, but that's life.

By the way, it would also be wrong if your brother or cousin paid for it.

 

[tigress]

For people that have taken the AAMC 8 exam, could you please post your scores? I know there aren't that many to compare with, yet, but I was pretty disappoinited in mine.

10PS
8VR

I haven't taken the BS section yet. My schedule is so busy I can only do sections at a time. I have been averaging 10 on VR and BS, and 12 on PS, but already I have dropped 4 points!

Thanks,
bodi

Did you do the other tests (that your averages are from) all together? You might actually do better if you sit down and take the whole test all at once, because it puts your brain in testing mode. Just an idea.

(I'm not going to post my score but I was pleased with this test. I went up a few points.)

 

[pseudoknot]

For people that have taken the AAMC 8 exam, could you please post your scores? I know there aren't that many to compare with, yet, but I was pretty disappoinited in mine.

10PS
8VR

I haven't taken the BS section yet. My schedule is so busy I can only do sections at a time. I have been averaging 10 on VR and BS, and 12 on PS, but already I have dropped 4 points!

Thanks,
bodi

12/12/12

 

[tigress]

12/12/12

hey that's a cool score 🙂

 

[aamartin81]

For everyone who jumped aboard to condemn Tigress for suggesting you pay for the exam and that sharing your account is okay:

This is FRAUD. The amount is less than $250 or $500 (whatever the cut-off is), so it is petty fraud, a misdemeanor. I truly hope you understand the potential consequences of your actions. Though the likelyhood of getting caught is slim, try explaining a misdemeanor of AAMC fraud to potential interviewers. If you are past this stage, try thinking about it coming up when applying for a medical license. If you have yet to take the exam, try thinking about being barred from the process completely (not sure how many schools look at applicants without an MCAT).

And while you're asking for a copy of the exam, why not ask for $40, $80 or even $160 (the cost of all the AAMC tests), I'm sure most people will be more than obliged to throw you a bone...

Adam

 

[gujuDoc]

I agree that many things are more unethical than giving your AAMC test to somebody, but the latter is still unethical. Not to mention illegal. AAMC specifically says you aren't allowed to do this. I don't think I'm off in saying it's wrong.

Here's what the AAMC says about it: "In consideration of being permitted to take this practice test, I affirm that I am bound on my honor to take the practice test without sharing the content in any form including printed, electronic, voice, or other means. . . . I understand that if the AAMC has reason to believe that I have violated this non-disclosure statement, it may, at its discretion, bar me from future practice tests and/or examinations, or take other appropriate actions."

So aside from violating this agreement, you are risking being barred from ever taking the MCAT and also being sued. That sounds extreme, but they do have copyright. I agree they should make the tests cheaper, and it stinks, but that's life.

By the way, it would also be wrong if your brother or cousin paid for it.

Well I'm sorry I didn't realize this was such a big deal. I've edited my earlier post to the poster telling them I'll give it to anyone, so it won't cause trouble. However, I don't know how much AAMC people are going to come on here trying to figure out who is sharing tests. As long as I've been on here, I have seen people do it all the time. Meaning, that I'm not the first person to do this. At least its not like I'm selling them. That would be what I consider unethical. But by those same rights, students sell MCAT books and other things all the time from Kaplan and TPR courses, I would tend to think making a profit off of those things are illegal too since it is copyright. I think its a moot point because the AAMC people aren't going to come into this board any day now to start trying to figure where people across the country are getting access to the tests from.

 

[aamartin81]

But by those same rights, students sell MCAT books and other things all the time from Kaplan and TPR courses, I would tend to think making a profit off of those things are illegal too since it is copyright. I think its a moot point because the AAMC people aren't going to come into this board any day now to start trying to figure where people across the country are getting access to the tests from.

Do you really not see the inherent difference in purchasing a service under a specific agreement which explicitly forbids you from providing those services to others? You do not own the services, you do own the books. You can do whatever you like with your own property, though I'm not sure you will ever find someone selling second hand books for a profit on this board. I cannont imagine that anyone would be willing to pay $125 for my marked up EK books. Though you are most likely correct that no one will check this board, it is possible. Aligning yourself with such a public thread would not be the best way to protect yourself from prosecution were it to occur.

What bothers me the most is that you are asking people who paid $40 to get the test to send it to you for free, or for half-price. I can't believe people actually respond. You're talking about maybe 5% of the application process, be real.

Adam

 

[gujuDoc]

Do you really not see the inherent difference in purchasing a service under a specific agreement which explicitly forbids you from providing those services to others? You do not own the services, you do own the books. You can do whatever you like with your own property, though I'm not sure you will ever find someone selling second hand books for a profit on this board. I cannont imagine that anyone would be willing to pay $125 for my marked up EK books. Though you are most likely correct that no one will check this board, it is possible. Aligning yourself with such a public thread would not be the best way to protect yourself from prosecution were it to occur.

What bothers me the most is that you are asking people who paid $40 to get the test to send it to you for free, or for half-price. I can't believe people actually respond. You're talking about maybe 5% of the application process, be real.

Adam

First off, I'm not asking anyone for the test. It was the other way around. I did initially ask for it but I paid the damn forty dollars myself and bought it. I was just stating that I didn't think my one comment would heat such a big deal because I have seen people doing this on this board since like forever. I'm sorry if it caused a big problem with you. I deleted my initial post. I never ever ever asked anyone to send me the test for half off because I have paid for it. I just told one person that if they wanted me to send it to them I would send it to them, that's all. I'm sorry that I didn't realize that was soooooooo very wrong in everyone's eyes.

I'm aware selling of the tests is illegal, and was never selling or buying it from someone.

Secondly, regardless of what you say, selling books from a course like Princeton Review or Kaplan is as ILLEGAL as selling of AAMC practice tests. I believe QofQuimica even pointed that out earlier this year or last semester sometime when people put a for sale thing on the board. Because as you say with AAMC, so is TPR and Kaplan material copyrighted and those that are course materials are not supposed to go to other people. And believe it or not, not all people mark up their books. Some leave them in new condition and write on paper instead. I for one did that so my books would remain in good condition.

 

[gujuDoc]

Do you really not see the inherent difference in purchasing a service under a specific agreement which explicitly forbids you from providing those services to others? You do not own the services, you do own the books. You can do whatever you like with your own property, though I'm not sure you will ever find someone selling second hand books for a profit on this board. I cannont imagine that anyone would be willing to pay $125 for my marked up EK books. Though you are most likely correct that no one will check this board, it is possible. Aligning yourself with such a public thread would not be the best way to protect yourself from prosecution were it to occur.

What bothers me the most is that you are asking people who paid $40 to get the test to send it to you for free, or for half-price. I can't believe people actually respond. You're talking about maybe 5% of the application process, be real.

Adam

Oh and another thing, people pay up to 150-200 dollars sometimes for people's used MCAT books from Kaplan or TPR. It isn't anymore legal then them borrowing AAMC tests from anyone. Don't confuse selling AAMC materials with borrowing someones materials. I never sold nor bought from someone else. i only leant out the tests to someone. They are two totally different things.

 

[aamartin81]

Oh and another thing, people pay up to 150-200 dollars sometimes for people's used MCAT books from Kaplan or TPR. It isn't anymore legal then them borrowing AAMC tests from anyone. Don't confuse selling AAMC materials with borrowing someones materials. I never sold nor bought from someone else. i only leant out the tests to someone. They are two totally different things.

I guess this means that I illegally sold my used car then... When you purchase a service and sign contract (whether physically or electronically) that states you will not distribute the material, doing so is a breach of contract and is illegal (don't believe me, call AAMC, see what the think of you "lending" the tests out). When you purchase an object (be it a book, car, or television), there is a transfer of ownership that is not present in purchasing a service (AAMC never gave you test 8, they gave you access). You sign no contract and are not bound by any such regulations. Your point of view deems Ebay to be an illegal, underground marketplace, good call. Any other arguments? And those books you're talking about, you think the people didn't pay more than the $150-$200 originally for them? Objects that are used lose value and are not sold at a profit (unless you have an original GT500, then we should talk...).

Adam

 

[Tinker Creek]

http://www.e-mcat.com/programs/mcat/terms.htm

 

[firebird69guy]

I guess this means that I illegally sold my used car then... When you purchase a service and sign contract (whether physically or electronically) that states you will not distribute the material, doing so is a breach of contract and is illegal (don't believe me, call AAMC, see what the think of you "lending" the tests out). When you purchase an object (be it a book, car, or television), there is a transfer of ownership that is not present in purchasing a service (AAMC never gave you test 8, they gave you access). You sign no contract and are not bound by any such regulations. Your point of view deems Ebay to be an illegal, underground marketplace, good call. Any other arguments? And those books you're talking about, you think the people didn't pay more than the $150-$200 originally for them? Objects that are used lose value and are not sold at a profit (unless you have an original GT500, then we should talk...).

Adam

What are you studying for, medical school or law school? Gujudoc apologized and deleted her post, what more do you want? I've seen more of your comments about people cheating AAMC than anything else.. I understand your concern, but it will still happen regardless of your posts. And all you will do is make enemies.. Just let it go and get back to studying..

 

[aamartin81]

I was actually coming on here to do just that. I did not mean to offend you, but instead meant to defend a poster who got railroaded by people saying that sharing was okay and legal.

Good luck,

Adam

 

[nicholonious]

seriously, its time to drop the arguing. if one wants to share, then let them share...at their own expense. if one does not want to take the risk and buy it themself, then let them. simple as that. no need to butt heads...

 

[Elastase]

Shouldn't you guys be studying?


Cause I know the f#ck am...

 

[gujuDoc]

seriously, its time to drop the arguing. if one wants to share, then let them share...at their own expense. if one does not want to take the risk and buy it themself, then let them. simple as that. no need to butt heads...

I totally agree with this. Now I'm going to sign off, finish my paer that's due today and studying for my test tonight, then focus solely on MCAT from tomorrow on forward til the day of the test. So if anyone has anything to say to me, they can tell it to me after April 16th. Oh and by the way to the poster above the one I quoted, I am a she not a he. but that's ok.

 

[natureboy]

Here's the scale for the score breakdown for test 8 for anyone who was interested...

MCAT Practice Test 8

PS VR BS
15 77-77 59-60 74-77
14 72-76 58-58 72-73
13 69-71 56-57 69-71
12 66-68 53-55 66-68
11 63-65 50-52 62-65
10 58-62 47-49 56-61
9 55-57 42-46 50-55
8 49-54 40-41 44-49
7 44-48 36-39 40-43
6 38-43 32-35 35-39
5 32-37 27-31 30-34
4 25-31 23-26 27-29
3 16-24 18-22 22-26
2 5-15 12-17 16-21
1 0-4 0-11 0-15