ABIM MOC during fellowship

[Leo Spaceman]

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So I tried to look this up, but can't seem to get a clear idea of what exactly I need to do to maintain my IM certification during fellowship. I guess a lot of the requirements are taken care of as I'll still be training, but is there anything else I need to be doing periodically?

 

[jdh71]

It's all so new. As I understand it being in fellowship counts as MOC, but you need to sign up. You will not need to actually do anything during training and up to the year AFTER training. I also don't think you pay while in training. But you need to sign up. (that is IF you want to be counted at "MOC" - older docs will be able to get away without having to do this but it's now being built into hospital contracts and credentialing, just fyi)

 

[Leo Spaceman]

It's all so new. As I understand it being in fellowship counts as MOC, but you need to sign up. You will not need to actually do anything during training and up to the year AFTER training. I also don't think you pay while in training. But you need to sign up. (that is IF you want to be counted at "MOC" - older docs will be able to get away without having to do this but it's now being built into hospital contracts and credentialing, just fyi)

Thanks jdh! I def want to MOC. Just hoping I don't have to shell out any $ in pursuit of it any time soon.

 

[Instatewaiter]

So I tried to look this up, but can't seem to get a clear idea of what exactly I need to do to maintain my IM certification during fellowship. I guess a lot of the requirements are taken care of as I'll still be training, but is there anything else I need to be doing periodically?

Some people have said that you might not be able to take your specialty boards in the future (isn't the case now).

For now, you sign up and have to pay ~200 bucks the first year. Thereafter every year during fellowship it is free. You don't actually have to fulfill any requirements or take courses during fellowship.

MOC technically isn't required to keep your IM certification. It is needed to be MOC compliant though (ie it is a BS way for the ABIM to get money out of you)

 

[rokshana]

It's all so new. As I understand it being in fellowship counts as MOC, but you need to sign up. You will not need to actually do anything during training and up to the year AFTER training. I also don't think you pay while in training. But you need to sign up. (that is IF you want to be counted at "MOC" - older docs will be able to get away without having to do this but it's now being built into hospital contracts and credentialing, just fyi)

yes, you do need to pay...but you get 10 points for every year of fellowship , woohoo!

 

[jdh71]

yes, you do need to pay...but you get 10 points for every year of fellowship , woohoo!

You don't have to pay for the fellowship years. This next year I get credit for my last year of fellowship, I also get the year for free.

 

[wire]

yeah sure sign up for MOC - it's a declaration that you're a giant p*ssy. i respectively disagree with jdh. i'm currently applying for jobs as i finish fellowship and nobody has given a rats ass about being "MOC certified". In fact, I had one person ask if I had signed up for MOC and i said no and was told "good, we don't want that kind here".

 

[jdh71]

yeah sure sign up for MOC - it's a declaration that you're a giant p*ssy. i respectively disagree with jdh. i'm currently applying for jobs as i finish fellowship and nobody has given a rats ass about being "MOC certified". In fact, I had one person ask if I had signed up for MOC and i said no and was told "good, we don't want that kind here".

It's being written in my hospital's new contracts so . . . if you don't need it, then you can roll those dice going forward. But I think it will limit job opportunities going forward. I'm not about to tell people it's no big deal when it could be. Everyone should make an informed decision.

 

[rokshana]

You don't have to pay for the fellowship years. This next year I get credit for my last year of fellowship, I also get the year for free.

really, when i went on there it took me to the payment page...how did you get it so that it didn't cost anything?

 

[jdh71]

really, when i went on there it took me to the payment page...how did you get it so that it didn't cost anything?

On the payment page it says I didn't owe anything. Clicked the button. Magic.

 

[Instatewaiter]

really, when i went on there it took me to the payment page...how did you get it so that it didn't cost anything?

First year you pay. Then your program director will contact them and you get credit for every year of fellowship so won't have to pay during your fellowship and the year after