academic vs community surgeon

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I would like to know the plus and minus for becoming an academic surgeon vs working in the community. I am really debating whether to add two years of research to residency so I can get an academic postition. Can someone get tenure at a university without ever publishing or research? Thanks
 
Bottom line, no. Tenure is not going to happen at a university without publishing, and publishing usually involves research (I will except a few celebrity types that could potentially pull it off).

However, you can teach and not do research. Most universities provide for two ways this could happen. 1) A non-tenure track at a major affiliate or the main hospital. Most major teaching centers have at least some provision for people who are great teachers but not interested in research as a primary goal.
2) Teaching staff at a minor affiliate. These people generally are in a community hospital and either are in private practice and still teach (they carry a non-paid appointment) or are on the University staff but don't do research (akin to #1)

Again, there are exceptions, but this is true at every place that I've ever paid attention to.
 
Lifestyle is a big difference. Academic surgeons get paid less, but are pampered more. For example, the residents buffer a lot of things that the private practice surgeon may have to deal with (like middle of the night phone calls for post op problems). They also do a lot less of the day to day hands on care of the patient. At my institution, they round once or twice a week, (if at all), and they're called to come to the OR after the case is well underway and they'll scrub in (if at all) only for the critical portion of the case. Academic surgeons see more tertiary care, challenging cases than a private practice surgeon. The flip side is again, they get paid less, and they are under the gun to publish. Plus, there are the politics involved with every academic center which can be a major hassle. Private practice surgeons probably have better hands-on skills (time is money) and make more money as well. They probably work longer hours than their academic collegues, although the transplant and trauma surgeons would disagree with this statement. Also, academic surgeons usually have a specific specialty in which they focus (ie endocrine, hepato-biliary, colorectal, etc) whereas a community general surgeon can often do it all. Both have distinct advantages and disadvantages. It's a tough choice, believe me.