Academy internship Pubs

[The Cinnabon]

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Hey all

Since I know we have some people who have matched at pretty competitive internships. I'm wondering what the typical publication profile of a successful applicant looks like at academy or other "academicy" sites?

Really, I'm just curious to know if I'm hitting benchmarks for these sites and good goals to set for the duration of my PhD.

 

[cara susanna]

I interviewed at some of those sites and most people had about 5-10 pubs, although some had more than that. Grant funding was also a huge boon. I myself had no grant funding and iirc 5 pubs, I didn't match to an academy site but I made the final cuts at a lot of them, or at least so they told me. I also know that I matched at the site I did (VA affiliated with an AMC and offering a research rotation) because of my research credentials, as the new TD prioritized that first and foremost when submitting rankings.

You might also find this article informative: APA PsycNet

 

[LM02]

A handful of pubs will get you in the door - 5ish or more is a good benchmark. Like meeting the threshold for clinical hours, more is not always looked at as necessarily "better." Faculty recognize that productivity is partially a function of the student, but also a function of the environment. For example, are you coming from a lab where there are a lot of secondary analyses of existing data, and lots of pubs coming out? Or are you coming from a lab where there's a big focus on RCTs that take forever to complete? If you have a lot of pubs, how many are you first or second author on? Other markers of research commitment and productivity, including conference presentations and grants (both large and small) help too.

Don't underestimate that - even for Academy programs - the faculty are intimately aware of the aims and purpose of internship, and this is a primarily clinical year. Your preparedness for the clinical parts of internship will be the most important. That doesn't necessarily mean more hours (see above), but it does mean having robust clinical experiences and an expressed enthusiasm for what you will be doing for the next year of your training.

 

[R. Matey]

I hope I'm wrong about this six years after I went out on internship, but you might be at a bit of a disadvantage coming from a counseling PhD program. I went out for one of these years ago and was told they flat out do not admit counseling students. That's one site though and I welcome stories to the contrary.

 

[The Cinnabon]

I hope I'm wrong about this six years after I went out on internship, but you might be at a bit of a disadvantage coming from a counseling PhD program. I went out for one of these years ago and was told they flat out do not admit counseling students. That's one site though and I welcome stories that prove me wrong.

I'm expecting this, which kinda sucks but is what it is


Luckily APPIC publishes data on who is coming from what type of program, and it seems like research heavy VAMCs have no issue taking counseling psych. I'm meeting with another Counseling Psych PhD grad who got an internship at a highly selective site that doesn't often take Counseling students and I'm wondering how they pulled it off.

 

[R. Matey]

Luckily APPIC publishes data on who is coming from what type of program, and it seems like research heavy VAMCs have no issue taking counseling psych. I'm meeting with another Counseling Psych PhD grad who got an internship at a highly selective site that doesn't often take Counseling students and I'm wondering how they pulled it off.

I can see that with VAs if your primary placement is in VA, rather than the AMC. The site I am speaking of was an AMC only placement.

 

[futureapppsy2]

A handful of pubs will get you in the door - 5ish or more is a good benchmark. Like meeting the threshold for clinical hours, more is not always looked at as necessarily "better." Faculty recognize that productivity is partially a function of the student, but also a function of the environment. For example, are you coming from a lab where there are a lot of secondary analyses of existing data, and lots of pubs coming out? Or are you coming from a lab where there's a big focus on RCTs that take forever to complete? If you have a lot of pubs, how many are you first or second author on? Other markers of research commitment and productivity, including conference presentations and grants (both large and small) help too.

Don't underestimate that - even for Academy programs - the faculty are intimately aware of the aims and purpose of internship, and this is a primarily clinical year. Your preparedness for the clinical parts of internship will be the most important. That doesn't necessarily mean more hours (see above), but it does mean having robust clinical experiences and an expressed enthusiasm for what you will be doing for the next year of your training.

Seconding that second paragraph—even the most research-focused folks see a relative decline in research productivity during internship because it’s truly a clinical year.

 

[The Cinnabon]

Seconding that second paragraph—even the most research-focused folks see a relative decline in research productivity during internship because it’s truly a clinical year.

To this effect ... are name brand internships kinda whatever (assuming you're getting quality clinical training)? Nice to have but far from required for academically oriented folk?