Acceptance rate of OMFS residency?

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anyone have any idea what the acceptace rate is for OMFS residency programs in the United States. ? Thanks!

 

[jaiceman]

I think this year, it was about 52% for all people ranking oral surgery in any type of order (i.e with or without other types of programs). Obviously this is a wide brush stroke, and certain other factors have a part.

 

[north2southOMFS]

what your missing is that out of those 48% who did not match, about 90% of them are foreign grads who will never get in. about 90-95% of usa grads probably match without problem.

 

[zsam]

when you say foreign grads--do you refer to people who did not complete a PASS program/2 year DMD program here?

 

[SWD]

what your missing is that out of those 48% who did not match, about 90% of them are foreign grads who will never get in. about 90-95% of usa grads probably match without problem.

Damn, way to make all the American applicants, who didn't match, feel even worse about not matching.hahah You definitely have a valid point though. tons of foreign, and other ineligible applicants, skew those match figures a bit. I think 90-95% might be a bit high of an estimation though. Than again, when ******s like me are matching our top choices...gotta wonder.😀

 

[jaiceman]

what your missing is that out of those 48% who did not match, about 90% of them are foreign grads who will never get in. about 90-95% of usa grads probably match without problem.

I would say its probably closer to 50% of the 52%, but since I am not screening applicants you may know more about it than I would.

By and by I am international, and will say it is substantially tougher for us to get in than a US citizen ( and rightfully so). You guys have it made man😎

 

[NoOMFSMatch]

what your missing is that out of those 48% who did not match, about 90% of them are foreign grads who will never get in. about 90-95% of usa grads probably match without problem.

I hesitated to reply to this, but I think I need to make some sort of response. I did not run into any foreign grads out on the interview trail. I was invited to interview at 10 places, went on 9 and did not match. I don't think I am an idiot when it comes to interviewing (though it's probably debateable since I didn't match). I also met 5 or 6 guys on the trail who also didn't match all with excellent stats and 5-10 interviews each as well. I think people should know that there are a lot more "American grads" in the percentage of unmatched canidates than 10%. Maybe I met the only 5 or 6 guys who didn't match, but somehow I doubt it. I only say this to let people know who are applying that not everyone does match.

 

[wise146]

I agree that plenty of great candidates don't match. What are you plans now--internship, gpr etc.?

 

[gryffindor]

I agree that a large part of those who are not matching are American grads. The stats are computed only from those who entered rank lists into the match system. The only people who would be entering lists are those who have at least 1 interview. Foreign applicants are probably not even getting invited to interview so most of them are excluded from the 48% unmatched group since they have no reason to enter a rank list.

 

[servitup]

I think more like 75% of competitive candidates match. At my school, we had 6 competitive candidates and 4 matched.

 

[north2southOMFS]

Ok, maybe my rate of US grads who didn't match was a bit low, but it is still far greater than a non-US degree'd dental student. I'm only saying this cause the programs get lists of everyone who participated in match, and where they matched or if they didn't match. I believe that is where the "match rate" percentage comes from. If you look at all the non matching candidates a significant (and i mean almost all it seems) have a dental school from somewhere way way far away. So i think even these guys that entered match and didn't get an interview still rank all the programs that they applied to either out of ignorance or as a prayer?

I never did mean to insult anyone of you who didn't match. And i hope you all reapply next year. I meant it more for the foreign guys around here to let them know there chances are slim without coming and doing dental school over here as well.

 

[1992Corolla]

Ok, maybe my rate of US grads who didn't match was a bit low, but it is still far greater than a non-US degree'd dental student. I'm only saying this cause the programs get lists of everyone who participated in match, and where they matched or if they didn't match. I believe that is where the "match rate" percentage comes from. If you look at all the non matching candidates a significant (and i mean almost all it seems) have a dental school from somewhere way way far away. So i think even these guys that entered match and didn't get an interview still rank all the programs that they applied to either out of ignorance or as a prayer?

I never did mean to insult anyone of you who didn't match. And i hope you all reapply next year. I meant it more for the foreign guys around here to let them know there chances are slim without coming and doing dental school over here as well.

You are such a jerk!😀

I applied but didn't match or interview. I am just a second year dental student though...mine was more out of ignorance than prayer, lol.

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So is it 75% of people match and out of those who don't match 50% are foreign? Or is my reading comprehension score low?

 

[jmp20]

anyone know exactly how many available OMFS spots there are in the US each year?

 

[toofache32]

anyone know exactly how many available OMFS spots there are in the US each year?

roughly 200.

 

[specialcaredent]

hey guys. anyone know the acceptance rate for dentists that have been out in practice for over 6 years? I have formal anesthesia training (2 year residency) and a GPR, along with experience working in a pediatric/special care dental practice and oral surgery practice for 3 years...I'm afraid I may be too late to start applying...getting older here!!

 

[north2southOMFS]

hey guys. anyone know the acceptance rate for dentists that have been out in practice for over 6 years? I have formal anesthesia training (2 year residency) and a GPR, along with experience working in a pediatric/special care dental practice and oral surgery practice for 3 years...I'm afraid I may be too late to start applying...getting older here!!

You haven't considered with your ability to IV sedate to just start shuckin' wizzies without the certificate? That is a good percentage of OMS's day who have done the residency...

 

[DiaperDandy]

You haven't considered with your ability to IV sedate to just start shuckin' wizzies without the certificate? That is a good percentage of OMS's day who have done the residency...

And forego all the kick-a surgery experience of a residency? You crazy.

Anyone could probably go out there and "shuck wizzies" if they wanted to without enduring a residency, but let's be honest, if you're going to cut corners, the OMFS residency is not cuttable. Not for anyone who really wants exposure to OMFS. The MD, however...

 

[north2southOMFS]

anyone could shuck wizzies except those who have patients who wnt to be sedated.......right?

 

[DiaperDandy]

anyone could shuck wizzies except those who have patients who wnt to be sedated.......right?

All you have to do is get a license to sedate and you are good to go. Each state has its own requirements for licensure, but any dentist can take some ce, qualify for a license, and sedate pts.

Or you could employ the services of a dental anesthesiologist and skip the ce.

 

[toofache32]

All you have to do is get a license to sedate and you are good to go. Each state has its own requirements for licensure, but any dentist can take some ce, qualify for a license, and sedate pts.

Or you could employ the services of a dental anesthesiologist and skip the ce.

Just to clarify, general dentists can do sedation, but not general anesthesia as oral surgeons do. That means no propofol/ketamine/sevoflurane....only periodontist-drugs like versed and fentanyl.

How about this to stir the pot: I am very wary of general dentists who perform true IV sedation (beyond oral anxiolysis). Most attend courses where they intubate mannequins and do maybe 20 sedations. There is no way this will prepare you for the moments of terror that accompany anesthesia.

 

[DiaperDandy]

Just to clarify, general dentists can do sedation, but not general anesthesia as oral surgeons do. That means no propofol/ketamine/sevoflurane....only periodontist-drugs like versed and fentanyl.

There are different types of "sedation" of course. valium and ketamine are certainly not in the same boat.

I was under the impression, though that if you did any kind of anesthesia training (enough to fulfill state mandated req's) like in a GPR you could do full scale IV sedation as a general dentist. Do most GPRs provide that kind of experience? That I don't know...

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

There are different types of "sedation" of course. valium and ketamine are certainly not in the same boat.

I was under the impression, though that if you did any kind of anesthesia training (enough to fulfill state mandated req's) like in a GPR you could do full scale IV sedation as a general dentist. Do most GPRs provide that kind of experience? That I don't know...

If a general dentist truely wants to provide higher levels of sedation safely (and is not interested in training as a Maxfacs); then I would suggest that completion of an accredited Anesthesia training program would be ideal.

North American accredited anesthesia residency programs

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[north2southOMFS]

There is no way this will prepare you for the moments of terror that accompany anesthesia.

Amen to that.