Accepted the fate of not being accepted (farewell post)

[voxveritatisetlucis]

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Hi everybody,

I joined this forum in June after I decided to try getting into medical school (again). Thanks to the helpful and kind people on here (especially @Goro, @LizzyM, @KnightDoc, @gonnif ,@Moko and I’m sure many others I’m forgetting), I had the proper advice to put my best foot forward when writing applications and attending interviews. Unfortunately, despite getting my hopes up after receiving 14 interviews this cycle, it has become clear to me that I will never get a second chance to pursue medicine no matter how much I try to absolve myself of past sins. At this point, at least 12 out of 14 schools that I’ve interviewed at this cycle have released decisions and I have yet to receive a single acceptance (2 post-II waitlist at mid tiers, 1 deferred-decision at a T20. These are all soft rejections based on my research. I also have 9 no decisions despite others with later interview dates having been accepted. These are also soft rejections). The other 2 schools are T10s and if I can’t get into lower ranked schools, I don’t stand a chance at these two.

I wanted to share this post for future applicants because my story clearly shows that the entire AMCAS/secondary applications are not reviewed prior to the interview at most schools. Therefore, if you have a good application but it has one red flag, you will likely get interviews but probably will not get any acceptances (obviously this depends on the severity of the red flag)

People have already told me on this forum that if I don’t get in this cycle, then I never will. It’s been 3 years since the red flag occurred so I doubt adding more temporal space will yield better results. Even if it was possible, I don’t know how much disappointment I have left in me after this cycle. Therefore, as painful as it is to do, I have to accept that I will never be accepted to medical school.

Lately coming on this forum and seeing applicants with later and later interview dates get acceptances has become too painful, I will be leaving this forum for good as I let go of my dream to become a physician. I made the mistake. I own it. But it still hurts.

I guess I will have to pursue alternative career options, but will probably always have regrets over what may have been. Maybe 10 years would be enough for a second chance but by then I will be pushing 36 and be too old for medical school. In the meantime, I would like for my sdn account to be deleted if possible so that I don’t log on when bored and get reminded of my fall from grace.

I wish people on this forum the best of luck in future endeavors and hope that my story can be useful for future applicants (as either an example of what not to do or further motivation to avoid screwing up after being accepted).

VVEL

 

[hello__2019]

Hi everybody,

I joined this forum in June after I decided to try getting into medical school (again). Thanks to the helpful and kind people on here (especially @Goro, @LizzyM, @KnightDoc, @gonnif ,@Moko and I’m sure many others I’m forgetting), I had the proper advice to put my best foot forward when writing applications and attending interviews. Unfortunately, despite getting my hopes up after receiving 14 interviews this cycle, it has become clear to me that I will never get a second chance to pursue medicine no matter how much I try to absolve myself of past sins. At this point, at least 12 out of 14 schools that I’ve interviewed at this cycle have released decisions and I have yet to receive a single acceptance (2 post-II waitlist at mid tiers, 1 deferred-decision at a T20. These are all soft rejections based on my research. I also have 9 no decisions despite others with later interview dates having been accepted. These are also soft rejections). The other 2 schools are T10s and if I can’t get into lower ranked schools, I don’t stand a chance at these two.

I wanted to share this post for future applicants because my story clearly shows that the entire AMCAS/secondary applications are not reviewed prior to the interview at most schools. Therefore, if you have a good application but it has one red flag, you will likely get interviews but probably will not get any acceptances (obviously this depends on the severity of the red flag)

People have already told me on this forum that if I don’t get in this cycle, then I never will. It’s been 3 years since the red flag occurred so I doubt adding more temporal space will yield better results. Even if it was possible, I don’t know how much disappointment I have left in me after this cycle. Therefore, as painful as it is to do, I have to accept that I will never be accepted to medical school.

Lately coming on this forum and seeing applicants with later and later interview dates get acceptances has become too painful, I will be leaving this forum for good as I let go of my dream to become a physician. I made the mistake. I own it. But it still hurts.

I guess I will have to pursue alternative career options, but will probably always have regrets over what may have been. Maybe 10 years would be enough for a second chance but by then I will be pushing 36 and be too old for medical school. In the meantime, I would like for my sdn account to be deleted if possible so that I don’t log on when bored and get reminded of my fall from grace.

I wish people on this forum the best of luck in future endeavors and hope that my story can be useful for future applicants (as either an example of what not to do or further motivation to avoid screwing up after being accepted).

VVEL

I’m sorry that you feel this way and are going through this. I mean you got 14 interviews so clearly you are an incredible applicant. It is only December so maybe just hold out hold hope to see if you may get accepted off a waitlist.

 

[UsernameChecksOut]

I was thinking of you just tonight. Like many others on here, I can honestly say that I am rooting for you and that I follow your story with great hope for you. I have appreciated your posts and your candid contributions to this forum. Of course we do respect whatever it is that you need for yourself. I do hope that, in the event that those dreams come true like we hope they will for you, that you might come back and share with us your story (maybe under a similar name if this one is deleted).

Regardless, know that you have the support of countless members who have been vocal on here, and I'll venture to say many who just lurk. Your academic achievement is superlative, your perseverance is admirable, and I hope that you will someday see what you now think of as a "fall from grace" as a part of your life that led you to something truly wonderful. All the best to you, Vox.

 

[KnightDoc]

Hi everybody,

I joined this forum in June after I decided to try getting into medical school (again). Thanks to the helpful and kind people on here (especially @Goro, @LizzyM, @KnightDoc, @gonnif ,@Moko and I’m sure many others I’m forgetting), I had the proper advice to put my best foot forward when writing applications and attending interviews. Unfortunately, despite getting my hopes up after receiving 14 interviews this cycle, it has become clear to me that I will never get a second chance to pursue medicine no matter how much I try to absolve myself of past sins. At this point, at least 12 out of 14 schools that I’ve interviewed at this cycle have released decisions and I have yet to receive a single acceptance (2 post-II waitlist at mid tiers, 1 deferred-decision at a T20. These are all soft rejections based on my research. I also have 9 no decisions despite others with later interview dates having been accepted. These are also soft rejections). The other 2 schools are T10s and if I can’t get into lower ranked schools, I don’t stand a chance at these two.

I wanted to share this post for future applicants because my story clearly shows that the entire AMCAS/secondary applications are not reviewed prior to the interview at most schools. Therefore, if you have a good application but it has one red flag, you will likely get interviews but probably will not get any acceptances (obviously this depends on the severity of the red flag)

People have already told me on this forum that if I don’t get in this cycle, then I never will. It’s been 3 years since the red flag occurred so I doubt adding more temporal space will yield better results. Even if it was possible, I don’t know how much disappointment I have left in me after this cycle. Therefore, as painful as it is to do, I have to accept that I will never be accepted to medical school.

Lately coming on this forum and seeing applicants with later and later interview dates get acceptances has become too painful, I will be leaving this forum for good as I let go of my dream to become a physician. I made the mistake. I own it. But it still hurts.

I guess I will have to pursue alternative career options, but will probably always have regrets over what may have been. Maybe 10 years would be enough for a second chance but by then I will be pushing 36 and be too old for medical school. In the meantime, I would like for my sdn account to be deleted if possible so that I don’t log on when bored and get reminded of my fall from grace.

I wish people on this forum the best of luck in future endeavors and hope that my story can be useful for future applicants (as either an example of what not to do or further motivation to avoid screwing up after being accepted).

VVEL

Geez. I have become very fond of you after initially being certain that you were trolling us. I am BEGGING you to reconsider and give the cycle time to play out. You might be right, but the unexpected could still happen. You already put up the ante, just let the hand play itself out. And hold off on deleting the account for the time being. After all, if you really can't control yourself, there is nothing stopping you from just creating a new account, and there is really nothing stopping you from lurking.

Plenty of people find success at T10s and T20s while being unsuccessful elsewhere. If I'm reading you right, you have zero actual Rs as of today, at least among your IIs. You've come this far, you might as well play the game and send the updates and LOIs the schools want, and see what happens. If the worst case comes to pass and you don't want to keep banging your head against the wall after the cycle is over, I won't blame you, since you have a very attractive Plan B. But others have shown that time really does cure most IAs if you are committed. I'm not saying you should keep going after this year, or that I would if I had your alternative available to me, but still, it's an option if you want it.

Please don't bail yet. We all want to see how this story ends, and many of us have an emotional investment in you now. A LOT of people who are going to be M1s next year have zero As today. Your research here has not been flawless, from the time you declared the cycle over after not receiving an II for 3 weeks back in August-September. With 14 live shots, it's still more likely than not that a few will come through, even with your baggage.

 

[TragicalDrFaust]

Three years isn't that much time. May be wise to move onto other things for now and would definitely take a break from applying for the next couple years. Doesn't have to be final. If ending this venture helps you then I wish you well. But I feel it's premature. If I remember your user name correctly, your and my red flags are of a similar nature. I was able to get into DO school despite my mediocre stats. If you don't want it to be over, it doesn't have to be.

 

[wanttobeamd22]

Man, that makes me sad. I've been rooting for you since I joined SDN this year and started to read your posts and opinions. They are very well written, thought out, you never get mad or lose your cool even when other posters are not so nice or blunt. You don't evade questions, you face them head on. Your stats are amazing and you show a lot of maturity, I really hope you get a chance to be a physician. You deserve a chance. In whatever you do, physician or otherwise, I wish you the best.

 

[deleted1100659]

Im confused 12 interviews and no acceptance? Whats the red flag and wouldnt they have seen that before offering you an interview?

 

[jamaica jan sun princess]

Im confused 12 interviews and no acceptance? Whats the red flag and wouldnt they have seen that before offering you an interview?

Drugs charges.

@voxveritatisetlucis if you received a dozen interviews then I don't think your red flag is keeping you out. The schools wouldn't have wasted interview slots if they couldn't look past your red flags. I know being in your late 20s feels like the edge of being too old for medical school. Let this cycle play out until you receive a rejections or classes start. The waiting game can be extremely mentally exhausting and depressing, and it sounds like you're experiencing that. Try again in two years. A friend of mine went to medical school in his late 20s and is one of the best students I've met.

 

[deleted1100659]

Drugs charges.

@voxveritatisetlucis if you received a dozen interviews then I don't think your red flag is keeping you out. The schools wouldn't have wasted interview slots if they couldn't look past your red flags. I know being in your late 20s feels like the edge of being too old for medical school. Let this cycle play out until you receive a rejections or classes start. The waiting game can be extremely mentally exhausting and depressing, and it sounds like you're experiencing that. Try again in two years. A friend of mine went to medical school in his late 20s and is one of the best students I've met.

Agreed thats why im confused; surely they would have seen the red flag on your app, so I dont understand if they had no itnention of taking you because of the red flag, why bother interviewing you to waste their time/your time? surely has to be more to it than that.

 

[CyrilFiggis]

I had 3 interviews and didn’t get an acceptance until January, despite others hearing prior. Not trying to spark false hope, but nothing about your story says the games over.

 

[FluffyCat1212]

I was waitlisted at 4 schools and ended up getting off of 3 of those waitlists between December and June. Withdrew my application from the 4th, so we'll never know. Can personally attest that waitlists are definitely not the end of the game. Neither is silence from your schools.

Also, as far as ranking goes, I'm currently attending a T20, but was rejected pre-II from my state school. Fit (and sometimes a little luck) >>>> stats/prestige/ranking.

 

[Kokonaut]

There's nothing wrong with taking a break for your mental health, this process can cause no small amount of despair and anxiety. Stepping away from reminders of the source of that angst is totally fine. That being said, you sure don't sound out of the game yet and those WL's (or pending decisions) could certainly bear fruit.

On a more light-hearted note, as a 30+ year old non-trad I resent the old remark!

 

[Goro]

Im confused 12 interviews and no acceptance? Whats the red flag and wouldnt they have seen that before offering you an interview?

Possession of hard drugs with intent to sell.

@voxveritatisetlucis if you received a dozen interviews then I don't think your red flag is keeping you out. The schools wouldn't have wasted interview slots if they couldn't look past your red flags.

I'm puzzled by this as well. I speculate that they were willing to give the OP a chance, but wanted to hear his/her explanation.

The OP will find that when Life closes one door, others open up.

And also, some things are just not meant to be.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

Possession of hard drugs with intent to sell.

@voxveritatisetlucis if you received a dozen interviews then I don't think your red flag is keeping you out. The schools wouldn't have wasted interview slots if they couldn't look past your red flags.

I'm puzzled by this as well. I speculate that they were willing to give the OP a chance, but wanted to hear his/her explanation.

The OP will find that when Life closes one door, others open up.

And also, some things are just not meant to be.

they don’t read the entire amcas/secondary applications preinterview.

Most plausible explanation, since I did mock interviews with career center and premed advisor and they both said it went well

 

[Means]

they don’t read the entire amcas/secondary applications preinterview.

Most plausible explanation, since I did mock interviews with career center and premed advisor and they both said it went well

did you have a productive conversation about the incident in your interviews?

 

[jamaica jan sun princess]

they don’t read the entire amcas/secondary applications preinterview.

Most plausible explanation, since I did mock interviews with career center and premed advisor and they both said it went well

They wouldn't have to, right? Aren't institutional actions and felonies/misdemeanors discrete questions in AMCAS and some secondaries? They can probably filter by those alone.

I could be wrong.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

People really aren’t going to believe the timing but I received my first acceptance a little while after the latest post I made in this thread. I’m extremely grateful that I have been given a second chance to chase a dream that some people never get to pursue once.

 

[dem0225]

Congratulations!!

 

[LindaAccepted]

People really aren’t going to believe the timing but I received my first acceptance a little while after the latest post I made in this thread. I’m extremely grateful that I have been given a second chance to chase a dream that some people never get to pursue once.

Congratulations!

 

[UsernameChecksOut]

Let’s gooooooooo!!!!! Future Doctor! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

 

[candbgirl]

Now go do some good. Congratulations.

 

[dmblah]

AHHH CONGRATS!!!!! That's so amazing!! The universe is telling you it's meant to be, so you're gonna be an amazing doc in the future 🙂

 

[LeeSin]

People really aren’t going to believe the timing but I received my first acceptance a little while after the latest post I made in this thread. I’m extremely grateful that I have been given a second chance to chase a dream that some people never get to pursue once.

from one guy with an IA to another: GET OFF THIS FORUM AND LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!! congrats man

 

[wanttobeamd22]

Congratulations!! You are going to be an excellent DOCTOR!! Don't even know you, but that made my day.

 

[deleted1000960]

Literally the first thing that came to my mind when I first saw this post was, "watch this guy get accepted like 2 days after this post lol."

Congrats!

 

[TheKingfish]

Congratulations!!! You seem like a really cool guy, so I’m legitimately hoping you got into one of your schools that I have an II with as well!

 

[YCAGA]

People really aren’t going to believe the timing but I received my first acceptance a little while after the latest post I made in this thread. I’m extremely grateful that I have been given a second chance to chase a dream that some people never get to pursue once.

This thread's initial post and then an acceptance 48 hours after asking to delete your account is the most Vox thing ever. Not to mention being a HYPSM valedictorian, fluent in 6 languages, 2 top 10 II, multiple 11-20 II, and 14 II total, all only 3 years removed from felony drug possession with intent to distribute and assault on a law enforcement officer.

Multiple adcoms on here stand by Vox being a real account so I guess I will say that you truly are a rainbow unicorn if even half your story is real.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

This thread's initial post and then an acceptance 48 hours after asking to delete your account is the most Vox thing ever. Not to mention being a HYPSM valedictorian, fluent in 6 languages, 2 top 10 II, multiple 11-20 II, and 14 II total, all only 3 years removed from felony drug possession with intent to distribute and assault on a law enforcement officer.

Multiple adcoms on here stand by Vox being a real account so I guess I will say that you truly are a rainbow unicorn if even half your story is real.

It wasn’t felonies, but misdemeanors. Still bad and I regret it. I know that the school is in a state in which it wouldn’t prevent licensing so perhaps that is the reason it was overlooked by one school of the many I interviewed at. This seems to be a common thread in my application experience. Schools in certain states seemed to be a lot more willing to extend interviews than schools in other states (New York and California have been particularly brutal in terms of the application to interview ratio). Also, 14 interviews is impressive but I did apply to 50ish schools. I’ve seen some of here get 15+ interviews on 25 applications. Previous cycle, I had a much higher interviews per application ratio and more acceptances at this point m. So on adjusted basis, it’s more like I got 7 interviews. Obviously I’m grateful for these interviews, but it’s not like I didn’t have a noticeable downturn in terms of success

 

[Select All That Apply]

It wasn’t felonies, but misdemeanors. Still bad and I regret it. I know that the school is in a state in which it wouldn’t prevent licensing so perhaps that is the reason it was overlooked by one school of the many I interviewed at. This seems to be a common thread in my application experience. Schools in certain states seemed to be a lot more willing to extend interviews than schools in other states (New York and California have been particularly brutal in terms of the application to interview ratio). Also, 14 interviews is impressive but I did apply to 50ish schools. I’ve seen some of here get 15+ interviews on 25 applications. Previous cycle, I had a much higher interviews per application ratio and more acceptances at this point m. So on adjusted basis, it’s more like I got 7 interviews. Obviously I’m grateful for these interviews, but it’s not like I didn’t have a noticeable downturn in terms of success

He's got you pegged. Only photo ID, a birth certificate, a school confirmation acceptance letter, fingerprints, baby photos, a COVID-19 vaccination card, and social security card can validate your existence to him at this point. I appreciate where he's coming from though as five months is a good run for a troll account especially to mitigate a lot of stress during taking the MCAT and seeing how people react to a ridiculous narrative. Probably more old school millennials who grew up on vBulletin have the balls to trust their tuition and call this stuff out based on years of seeing other people get caught on it. There's no more teeth to people anymore especially with new chat platforms offering so many opportunities for trolls to catfish other people with new accounts and alternative identities. The farewell goodbye thread in the pre-med subforum and then the 180 reversal though was gold. I love good art.

 

[Damson]

from farewell post to an acceptance, all within 2 days

life is full of surprises

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

from farewell post to an acceptance, all within 2 days

life is full of surprises

It reminded me of one of my favorite books, fooled by randomness: the role of chance in life and in the markets


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[proudofmykids]

You seem to totally neglect the fact that many candidates receive their T10/20 Acceptances later, and even very late in the cycle.

 

[arnim]

It wasn’t felonies, but misdemeanors. Still bad and I regret it. I know that the school is in a state in which it wouldn’t prevent licensing so perhaps that is the reason it was overlooked by one school of the many I interviewed at. This seems to be a common thread in my application experience. Schools in certain states seemed to be a lot more willing to extend interviews than schools in other states (New York and California have been particularly brutal in terms of the application to interview ratio). Also, 14 interviews is impressive but I did apply to 50ish schools. I’ve seen some of here get 15+ interviews on 25 applications. Previous cycle, I had a much higher interviews per application ratio and more acceptances at this point m. So on adjusted basis, it’s more like I got 7 interviews. Obviously I’m grateful for these interviews, but it’s not like I didn’t have a noticeable downturn in terms of success

I have nowhere near your stats with 7IIs and I think about the ratio as someone who applied to 39 schools. But I don’t think there is any value in focusing on that as any of these can turn into As depending on a myriad of factors we have no control over or insight on. While I completely understand where you are coming from as a re-applicant I know that the cycle isn’t over yet and there is time for the tide to turn. This is the first of multiple for you my friend!

 

[cincincyreds]

Hi everybody,

I joined this forum in June after I decided to try getting into medical school (again). Thanks to the helpful and kind people on here (especially @Goro, @LizzyM, @KnightDoc, @gonnif ,@Moko and I’m sure many others I’m forgetting), I had the proper advice to put my best foot forward when writing applications and attending interviews. Unfortunately, despite getting my hopes up after receiving 14 interviews this cycle, it has become clear to me that I will never get a second chance to pursue medicine no matter how much I try to absolve myself of past sins. At this point, at least 12 out of 14 schools that I’ve interviewed at this cycle have released decisions and I have yet to receive a single acceptance (2 post-II waitlist at mid tiers, 1 deferred-decision at a T20. These are all soft rejections based on my research. I also have 9 no decisions despite others with later interview dates having been accepted. These are also soft rejections). The other 2 schools are T10s and if I can’t get into lower ranked schools, I don’t stand a chance at these two.

I wanted to share this post for future applicants because my story clearly shows that the entire AMCAS/secondary applications are not reviewed prior to the interview at most schools. Therefore, if you have a good application but it has one red flag, you will likely get interviews but probably will not get any acceptances (obviously this depends on the severity of the red flag)

People have already told me on this forum that if I don’t get in this cycle, then I never will. It’s been 3 years since the red flag occurred so I doubt adding more temporal space will yield better results. Even if it was possible, I don’t know how much disappointment I have left in me after this cycle. Therefore, as painful as it is to do, I have to accept that I will never be accepted to medical school.

Lately coming on this forum and seeing applicants with later and later interview dates get acceptances has become too painful, I will be leaving this forum for good as I let go of my dream to become a physician. I made the mistake. I own it. But it still hurts.

I guess I will have to pursue alternative career options, but will probably always have regrets over what may have been. Maybe 10 years would be enough for a second chance but by then I will be pushing 36 and be too old for medical school. In the meantime, I would like for my sdn account to be deleted if possible so that I don’t log on when bored and get reminded of my fall from grace.

I wish people on this forum the best of luck in future endeavors and hope that my story can be useful for future applicants (as either an example of what not to do or further motivation to avoid screwing up after being accepted).

VVEL

I just want to say I'm sorry the medical field is absolutely unforgiving when people make mistakes.

 

[YCAGA]

It wasn’t felonies, but misdemeanors.

From your original post on SDN:

Downside:
Arrested Sophomore year for distribution of a controlled substance (think cocaine, MDMA, non prescription benzodiazepines) Plead down to possession plus IA. Very bad decision. Kicked off my team and had to take time off for undergraduate. Finished parole but can’t get it expunged due to statutory limitations.

Tldr: can solid stats overcome questionable past?

edit: during the arrest I was technically charged with evading arrest and class a assault on an officer. These were also dropped.

I am not aware of any state where "distribution of a controlled substance" is not a felony. I understand you plead down but the charges were still felonies, where they not?

Your posts are normally entertaining so I thank you for that, although it is a little disturbing how many people think that your story is real.

 

[deleted1119853]

From your original post on SDN:

I am not aware of any state where "distribution of a controlled substance" is not a felony. I understand you plead down but the charges were still felonies, where they not?

Your posts are normally entertaining so I thank you for that, athlough it is a little disturbing how many people think that your story is real.

The part that gets me is “finished parole.” How long were you in prison, Vox?

 

[KnightDoc]

The part that gets me is “finished parole.” How long were you in prison, Vox?

I have a strong feeling he meant probation, not parole.

 

[deleted1119853]

I have a strong feeling he meant probation, not parole.

I don’t believe anyone actually involved with the criminal justice system would confuse the two very different realities of parole and probation.

 

[KnightDoc]

From your original post on SDN:

I am not aware of any state where "distribution of a controlled substance" is not a felony. I understand you plead down but the charges were still felonies, where they not?

Your posts are normally entertaining so I thank you for that, athlough it is a little disturbing how many people think that your story is real.

I thought the same thing, but have been told, several times by several different people, that background checks only pick up convictions, not arrests. I haven't been through it yet myself, so I have no first hand experience one way or the other. I know for a fact, though, that AMCAS only asks about convictions. So the fact that there was a felony arrest is now irrelevant because it did not result in a felony conviction and consequently is not subject to a felony disclosure.

I admit that I was initially convinced that this was an elaborate troll, and I guess it still could be, since the dramatic farewell immediately followed by the sudden turn definitely looks funny. But everything he is saying is very plausible, including the near total shutout from the schools where he had live applications at the time of the incident, since they are privy to information from that time that is not subject to disclosure now (felony arrest).

 

[KnightDoc]

I don’t believe anyone actually involved with the criminal justice system would confuse the two very different realities of parole and probation.

Let's see how he responds. You make a valid point, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have misspoke. Nothing in anything he has been saying (particularly the reduction of the felony to misdemeanor and dismissal of charges related to resisting arrest and assaulting an officer) suggests he spent a minute in prison due to this. It could all be BS (including the fact that any of it happened at all! 🙂), but, if it isn't, there is no reason to think he is hiding having spent time in prison. He's been extremely open in sharing all kinds of details. I don't think he would stop there, only to slip by referring to parole,

 

[YCAGA]

He's been extremely open in sharing all kinds of details.

As most trolls are, and I would not even say this is elaborate since it is not subtle. Maybe...dedicated? Given the huge number of posts and the intense fluctuation between reasonable advice and insanity (breaking up with girlfriend if it would mean an acceptance comes to mind).

 

[UsernameChecksOut]

It’s probably fair to point out that not all SDN posters know the full story of a given member, even if they have been following the gist. I have found Vox to be a very educated (on the process) and interesting contributor. If he’s a troll, at least he’s a likable and entertaining one whose posts have inadvertently led to other valuable contribution/knowledge-sharing from others across many topics.

 

[allseasons]

It’s probably fair to point out that not all SDN posters know the full story of a given member, even if they have been following the gist. I have found Vox to be a very educated (on the process) and interesting contributor. If he’s a troll, at least he’s a likable and entertaining one whose posts have inadvertently led to other valuable contribution/knowledge-sharing from others across many topics.

Yes, I strongly agree with this. I have a moderate understanding of finance from many friends in the field, and vox's comments on it are very very accurate, and honestly nice to have as an occasional sidebar in a forum where almost everyone else is has only pre-med knowledge.

I think most likely vox is a wonderful applicant without quite the criminal past he makes himself out to have. There's been a few inconsistencies here and there like the parole/probation thing. That's a pretty major mistake to make for someone that's been through the process. Not to mention, the reason everyone here thinks he got a felony is because originally he wrote that he was "charged with a felony" and then later in the comments clarified that he was only convicted of a misdemeanor after someone told him a felony would be an absolute DOA no chance of success. This is kind of an important detail to include in an initial post I think. I also have a vague memory of him saying he applied last cycle and got no interviews at one point, then saying later that didn't happen, though that might just be my memory being faulty.

@YCAGA don't forget he was also a varsity athlete lol. btw, what does your username mean?

I'm pretty sure he's gonna finish out this cycle with a T10 acceptance (somewhat expect it to be Harvard or Stanford). Or at least he'll tell us that. And honestly, maybe he really will have gotten one, who knows what is true and what isn't.

But regardless, he's been really polite even when people attack him on here, and he's been really interesting to say the least, so I certainly hope he stays haha.

I thought the same thing, but have been told, several times by several different people, that background checks only pick up convictions, not arrests. I haven't been through it yet myself, so I have no first hand experience one way or the other. I know for a fact, though, that AMCAS only asks about convictions. So the fact that there was a felony arrest is now irrelevant because it did not result in a felony conviction and consequently is not subject to a felony disclosure.

I admit that I was initially convinced that this was an elaborate troll, and I guess it still could be, since the dramatic farewell immediately followed by the sudden turn definitely looks funny. But everything he is saying is very plausible, including the near total shutout from the schools where he had live applications at the time of the incident, since they are privy to information from that time that is not subject to disclosure now (felony arrest).

He's since gotten interviews from schools that accepted him before, I assume, as he asked what are the odds of him getting a post-II acceptance from a previously rescinded acceptance (that of course, absolutely no one could answer for him).

Also, I can near guarantee that background checks only show convictions, not charges (unless they're pending). Can't really show proof at it was through a certiphi customer service representative, but here's another guy that did the same thing: Do arrests without conviction show up on the CBC?
just from a moral standpoint, I would have a major problem with seeing arrests disclosed in these background checks as you can be arrested for literally anything and with little proof, and as we've seen more and more lately sometimes for racist reasons.

You can also google "do background checks show arrests" which will tell you "Criminal background checks will reveal felony and misdemeanor criminal convictions, any pending criminal cases, and any history of incarceration as an adult. Arrests pending prosecution may also be reported."

 

[Nave]

Agreed thats why im confused; surely they would have seen the red flag on your app, so I dont understand if they had no itnention of taking you because of the red flag, why bother interviewing you to waste their time/your time? surely has to be more to it than that.

So this is a common misconception among applicants. There are schools that do interview students they have no intention of accepting (for various reasons). I personally experienced this myself.

Anyway, congratulations @voxveritatisetlucis! I am sure you're feeling an amalgamation of emotions.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

So this is a common misconception among applicants. There are schools that do interview students they have no intention of accepting (for various reasons). I personally experienced this myself.

Anyway, congratulations @voxveritatisetlucis! I am sure you're feeling an amalgamation of emotions.

Is this usually legacy/donor? Connections to a school’s premed office (ex. Doing the advisor/office a favor?)

 

[allseasons]

Is this usually legacy/donor? Connections to a school’s premed office (ex. Doing the advisor/office a favor?)

I've heard URMs too sometimes, at top schools. They need to show the LCME they're putting in the effort (told to me by a URM from Harvard through reddit PMs).

 

[Nave]

Is this usually legacy/donor? Connections to a school’s premed office (ex. Doing the advisor/office a favor?)

I am sure there are a myriad of reasons. In my personal circumstance, it was a state school who interviewed me late with the intention of showing that they were interested in me as an applicant, but wanted me to improve my application and apply again the next cycle.

 

[YCAGA]

@YCAGA don't forget he was also a varsity athlete lol. btw, what does your username mean?

lol his resume is so extensive that I legit forgot that part. and username is summed up in this video haha




Aviation (especially the airlines) has some good lessons to teach medicine in terms of safety, but that is very much a sidebar.

 

[KnightDoc]

Is this usually legacy/donor? Connections to a school’s premed office (ex. Doing the advisor/office a favor?)

These are the so-called "courtesy" interviews. Yes, typically doing a VIP a favor, or not wanting to piss them off. I think @Angus Avagadro has some first hand experience, if I recall correctly. If it applied to you, you'd know it! 🙂

 

[YCAGA]

These are the so-called "courtesy" interviews. Yes, typically doing a VIP a favor, or not wanting to piss them off. I think @Angus Avagadro has some first hand experience, if I recall correctly. If it applied to you, you'd know it! 🙂

There is at least one person in my class that people swear got in from one of these. Whoopsies