Accp vs AsHP

[hotpepper]

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what is the difference between ACCP and ASHP? to me they both seem very similar. Why did they open ACCP in 2004? what kind of need was it based on?

 

[owlegrad]

what is the difference between ACCP and ASHP? to me they both seem very similar. Why did they open ACCP in 2004? what kind of need was it based on?

There was a desperate need for your dues.

 

[willrocks]

You complain that the organizations in pharmacy exist solely for the purpose of collecting money, but what if they were gone? Then we would really have nothing. Would we be better off? No.

Now let the flood of posts saying I don't know what I am talking about begin.

 

[Praziquantel86]

The two organizations advocate for different groups of pharmacists and different issues.

ASHP (originally the American Society of Hospital Pharmacists), when it initially split from APhA, was organized to focus on the needs hospital pharmacy. The clinical model of pharmacy practice was really in its infancy, and the vast majority of its members were in what would today be considered staff hospital roles. Likewise, members of APhA were found, overwhelmingly, in staff roles in retail settings.

The growth of clinical pharmacy, both in the inpatient and outpatient settings, has created a new type of pharmacist (neither better nor worse, just different). Clinical pharmacy is concerned with a wholly different set of issues, that can't be properly addressed by either APhA or ASHP. Hence, ACCP was founded.

To those who say that organizations simply take their member's dues, then that's entirely your fault for paying them and not getting their money's worth. Become involved in an organization at a local, state or national level, and you'll see where that money goes. If you want to simply dump an annual fee and not bother trying to get benefit for it, then keep on going. I get value out of every dollar I pay, and I'm proud to say I'm a member of the organizations to which I belong.

ETA: I think your founding date is off, by the way. ACCP has been around since 1979.

 

[owlegrad]

The two organizations advocate for different groups of pharmacists and different issues.

ASHP (originally the American Society of Hospital Pharmacists), when it initially split from APhA, was organized to focus on the needs hospital pharmacy. The clinical model of pharmacy practice was really in its infancy, and the vast majority of its members were in what would today be considered staff hospital roles. Likewise, members of APhA were found, overwhelmingly, in staff roles in retail settings.

The growth of clinical pharmacy, both in the inpatient and outpatient settings, has created a new type of pharmacist (neither better nor worse, just different). Clinical pharmacy is concerned with a wholly different set of issues, that can't be properly addressed by either APhA or ASHP. Hence, ACCP was founded.

To those who say that organizations simply take their member's dues, then that's entirely your fault for paying them and not getting their money's worth. Become involved in an organization at a local, state or national level, and you'll see where that money goes. If you want to simply dump an annual fee and not bother trying to get benefit for it, then keep on going. I get value out of every dollar I pay, and I'm proud to say I'm a member of the organizations to which I belong.

ETA: I think your founding date is off, by the way. ACCP has been around since 1979.

I agree 100% with that statement, although my solution is to not pay the dues.

 

[pharm B]

Prazi, can you give an example of the issues that ACCP addresses that ASHP does not?

I'm only asking because I thought ASHP basically accredited the residencies most clinical pharmacist wanna-be's are pursuing. Does ACCP advocate clinical pharmacy without a residency, or do they work in tandem with ASHP?

 

[Praziquantel86]

Prazi, can you give an example of the issues that ACCP addresses that ASHP does not?

I'm only asking because I thought ASHP basically accredited the residencies most clinical pharmacist wanna-be's are pursuing. Does ACCP advocate clinical pharmacy without a residency, or do they work in tandem with ASHP?

Board-certification is one that comes to mind, as well as additional opportunities for PharmD research training. ACCP and ASHP do have some substantial overlap on advocacy issues, which stands to reason in my mind. ACCP advocates residency training, and they work with ASHP on a lot of those issues. Ultimately though, ASHP is the resdency-accrediting body.

The difference between ACCP and ASHP is primarily research based, particularly practice-based research. You'll find a lot of the members of ACCP are very involved in clinical and translational research, and ACCP has developed several initiatives to foster that movement. If you want to find specifics on the differences, I'd recommend reading each organization's mission statement, then their strategic initiatives, white papers, positions, etc. There's a lot of good stuff out there.

Just make sure you're looking at the correct ACCP...there's a few out there. I'm referring to the American College of Clinical Pharmacy, but you also have the American College of Clinical Pharmacology (they're an interesting bunch as well, and very relevant to pharmacy research).

 

[pharm B]

Thanks! 🙂