Achiever PAT uhhhh....

[MedHopeful234]

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So I have a few questions on keyholes/TFE in PAT Achiever... It can be good practice for those interested so hope it helps you out too! 🙂

Please help if you can!


Picture 21:

I swear the small pentagon sticking out is further to one side... I ruled out B for this reason but apparently that is the answer. (???)

For Picture 22:

can someone please help me understand what a angled line would resemble on a top view and also on an end view (choice A and then the END view given)? I was choosing between C and A, but wrongly chose A (Answer is C)...

For Picture 24

how can you even tell the longer pole is away from the edge on the bottom rectangle? (Correct answer is E), but I chose A... It looks to me as though its on the edge

For Picture 25

Ok, I simply CANNOT SEE THIS. The answer is C... HOW? what view is this from??

Picture 28

I swear the top extension (at the tip of the triangle) is NOT as long as the bottom two... (The answer is B)... Any help?

 

[StumpMT]

Hell yes! I love PAT stuff. Sorry just had to get that out of the way. My next post will be serious 🙂

 

[StumpMT]

For picture 21,

The smaller pentagon is sticking out further from the octagon than the base is. This rules out A, C, and E. D is ruled out for the fact that the base platform isn't that thick.

For picture 22,

It is not A because the tiny downward right slant at the bottom of the object in the answer choice doesn't correspond to anything on the FRONT or END views.

For picture 24,

It's very hard to tell just by looking at it if the base of the pole lines up with the edge or if it's slightly inward of the bottom platform. I did notice that the top two shorter rods sticking out are slightly longer in A than they are in E. I'm pretty sure for this reason you can rule out A.

For picture 25,

WTF???????????????????????

For picture 28,

You should be able to rule out A, C, and E just by looking at it. The reason it's B and not D is because the inward cutout depths don't line up right with D. Also if you draw an imaginary line down the slant of the top extension you'll see that it lines up with the third extension down and not the shorter one right below it. This means the outer edge sticks out just as far as the bottom two.

 

[KyoPhan]

I remember the first problem from earlier. Here's what some other people said.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/pat-questions.999178/#post-13946034

 

[MedHopeful234]

Thanks StumpMT! Great explanations....

For 22... what would you expect to see in the F/E views if there was that tiny downward slant? I'm struggling with seeing slants in figures and want to make sure I know how to recognize them.

For picture 21,

The smaller pentagon is sticking out further from the octagon than the base is. This rules out A, C, and E. D is ruled out for the fact that the base platform isn't that thick.

For picture 22,

It is not A because the tiny downward right slant at the bottom of the object in the answer choice doesn't correspond to anything on the FRONT or END views.

For picture 24,

It's very hard to tell just by looking at it if the base of the pole lines up with the edge or if it's slightly inward of the bottom platform. I did notice that the top two shorter rods sticking out are slightly longer in A than they are in E. I'm pretty sure for this reason you can rule out A.

For picture 25,

WTF???????????????????????

For picture 28,

You should be able to rule out A, C, and E just by looking at it. The reason it's B and not D is because the inward cutout depths don't line up right with D. Also if you draw an imaginary line down the slant of the top extension you'll see that it lines up with the third extension down and not the shorter one right below it. This means the outer edge sticks out just as far as the bottom two.

 

[StumpMT]

Hey, thanks! I was a fine arts major back in the day and took tons of art classes in high school. I guess you could say I have a natural 3D ability. At the beginning of my DAT prep I just took the PAT section of the 2007 test under timed conditions just to see how I'd do. I had 10 min left on the clock when I finished and got a 23.5. I did the same for the practice test on qvault and got a 22. That was weeks ago. I don't really practice much PAT as it's my very strong area, but I love that section of the test so anytime anyone has a question about it I'm eager to help.

Well since the lines represent changes in elevations I would expect to see one part in the F-view higher or lower than the other (in that represented section). For that diagonal line to be an actual part of the structure there would be a horizontalish line of some sort in the very top-left area in the F-view. A perfectly horizontal line in the F-view could be a slant in the T-view. This would indicate a change in elevation going from front to back. To help visualize is try taking a box and hold it at an angle so the T-view shows a slanted edge, then turn it to the F-view and you'll see what I'm talking about.

If you have any other questions about 3D type stuff don't hesitate to ask.