acupuncture course

[indytravl]

has anyone taken acupuncture courses & gotten an acupuncture license?

any input for where can find out about where programs are offered?

have heard of helms institute (california, ?stanford) & a newer one run by a rehab doctor at harvard (?paul audette) as well as one in upstate new york. know that these ones allow you to be qualified to apply for an acupuncture state license to practice.

please help😕

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[Doctodd]

i heard the california course was the best....but this was 5+ years ago when i was in residency. The course is super expensive i think.....about 5 or 10K. For the amount you get reimbursed (if anything), you might not get many responses here.

 

[chinochulo]

has anyone taken acupuncture courses & gotten an acupuncture license?

any input for where can find out about where programs are offered?

have heard of helms institute (california, ?stanford) & a newer one run by a rehab doctor at harvard (?paul audette) as well as one in upstate new york. know that these ones allow you to be qualified to apply for an acupuncture state license to practice.

please help😕

No need to get an acupuncture license if you are an MD...only certification for 300CME hours. I took the Harvard course--it's not new; it's Japanese style acupuncture organized by Audette from Spaulding Rehab. Lots of hands-on time necessary to pass the course (meaning if you're not in the Boston area, you will have to fly in on the weekends for the hands-on training); the didactics you can get streamed over the internet....it's often compared with the UCLA course; both have very good reps.

 

[MD2Be]

when does the harvard 2008 course start? where's the info for it?

 

[joshmir]

stasrt in the fall

the link is via the Harvard med website which can be googled

learn some cool stuff, meet some interesting docs. less compressed in time than ucla, which can be good and bad

ask if they can teach you the new style korean scalp acupuncture pretty powerful

 

[axm397]

harvard program http://cme.med.harvard.edu/index.asp?SECTION=CLASSES&ID=00282317&SO=N#prgsched

helms http://www.hmieducation.com/

 

[johnf]

acupuncture training program http://www.mystudyinchina.com/shanghai/tcm/shutcm/one-month-tcm-sh.html

http://www.mystudyinchina.com/shanghai/tcm/shutcm/ic.htm

http://www.mystudyinchina.com/shanghai/tcm/shutcm/clinicalpractice.html

 

[PainPsych]

I took the course through UCLA/Helms this past year. It was about $6000. And, it is a lot of work if you want to learn it right. Honestly, though, I don't see how a pain doc would have much use for it. Like anything else, you can take course and workshops, but there are people who get their graduate and PhDs in acupuncture work and theory. You have to ask yourself what you're going to do with it.

MANY of the people who were in the class with me were primary care who wanted to find supplemental income. I was there to learn more about acupuncture, and knowing about what it's useful for, what to tell a patient, etc I could have learned without spending that money.

Acupuncture is such a broad and expansive thing that if you want to do it well and give your patients excellent care, it's a life time investment (like medicine in general).

My 2 cents.

 

[SSdoc33]

stasrt in the fall

the link is via the Harvard med website which can be googled

learn some cool stuff, meet some interesting docs. less compressed in time than ucla, which can be good and bad

ask if they can teach you the new style korean scalp acupuncture pretty powerful

is there anything you CAN'T treat with auricular acupuncture??????

seriously, im not a big believer in acupuncture, but if i was gonna have it (or one of my family members) i would definitely send them to someone who has been doing it for years (if not decades) and preferably trained in the far east. we go thru 10 years of training thats NOT in acupuncture. i have a hard time believing that an MD/DO trained here would be really good at it. if so, they are few and far between

 

[lobelsteve]

What's the point of being good at it? Better in tune with Qi (Chi)? Better at finding acupuncture points though Frank Netter could not find them)? The "energy field" that is being altered is not quantifiable, measurable, or fit into the physical laws of matter and science. If the folks at CERN start mashing up some protons and get the "dark matter" they are looking for and it turns out that this is Qi, I'll issue a public apology. But when sham acupuncture has proven superior (not equal to) to acupuncture in certain studies (quackcast 8,21,27)*.

This would be a perfect modality for PT and CRNA, but as physicians I believe we have a higher (science) standard to meet. If you want more money- rob a bank or ask your patients for tips.

 

[Josh L.Ac.]

Correct, when the German equivalent of medical acupuncturists perform standardized protocols for less than 12 weeks of treatment, their tends to be no significant difference between the outcomes of the "real" and "sham" acupuncture treatment groups.



No evidence of "energy fields" is wonderful application of a red herring.



But on a side-note, if a pain management physician has to use acupuncture to increase their revenue, their practice model probably needs to be modified. It really doesn't make sense financially for a physician to do two acupuncture patients an hour when they can easily do 4 ESI's in that time frame, which bill 8-10 times (or more) per procedure than acupuncture does.