advice please

[hbb2020]

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Hey guys,
i don't know what is the best thing to do in my situation so please let me know what you think. I made this timeline so hopefully its easier to follow
1. did two years of undergrad
2. got accepted to pharmacy school at a young age, wasn't prepared
3. dismissed from pharmacy school due to poor academics
4. went back to finish undergrad (undergrad gpa 3.18)
5. got inot science MS program finished it and earned 3.75 gpa.
6. being in the ms program decided to pursue medicine
7. have been studying for the mcat but will take it in June 16th, practice exams are still not so great.
8. brief of experience: worked in pharmacy 3 years, 2 service trips, chem lab ta, volunteer experience, shadowed physicians
I am not sure if i should apply or wait another year. what are my chances to get into med school? should i wait for mcat school (released in July 16th) or submit the application before then.
help much appreciated
thanks

 

[pms_testosterone]

Hello! I got into med from pharm, but my pharm GPA was high. You should do a 2-year post bacc (formal or self-created). You aren't going to get into med with a 3.18 and failures, and most med schools don't include your grad school marks in your GPA, unfortunately.
You need to decide whether an extra 2 years of undergrad is worth it to you, considering there is no guarantee you'll get into med school after.
On the plus side, your ECs are good.
Best of luck.

 

[hbb2020]

Hello! I got into med from pharm, but my pharm GPA was high. You should do a 2-year post bacc (formal or self-created). You aren't going to get into med with a 3.18 and failures, and most med schools don't include your grad school marks in your GPA, unfortunately.
You need to decide whether an extra 2 years of undergrad is worth it to you, considering there is no guarantee you'll get into med school after.
On the plus side, your ECs are good.
Best of luck.

hey thanks alot for your reply. So you don't think having the ms with good gpa will help? also, since i already have bs in biology do you i just take more bio classes or re-take them

 

[pms_testosterone]

Check the websites of the MD programs you're applying to in order to be absolutely sure...but generally, med schools don't factor graduate GPA into your overall GPA. So they would calculate your GPA as 3.18. That's not to say your MS won't help you - it's always good to have research experience - but it won't make up for your subpar undergrad performance.

In terms of which courses you should take, I'd recommend looking into post-bacc/SMP programs and either applying for one, or taking similar courses. Alternatively, you could take upper level science courses you haven't taken before. It's probably a good idea to seek advice on this subject from the admissions offices of some of the schools where you intend on applying. In my experience, admissions staff are often pretty helpful.

I'd also postpone your MCAT if you're not scoring 510+ on the AAMC FLs. You'll need a strong score to convince admissions committees that your academic difficulties are in the past.

 

[hbb2020]

Check the websites of the MD programs you're applying to in order to be absolutely sure...but generally, med schools don't factor graduate GPA into your overall GPA. So they would calculate your GPA as 3.18. That's not to say your MS won't help you - it's always good to have research experience - but it won't make up for your subpar undergrad performance.

In terms of which courses you should take, I'd recommend looking into post-bacc/SMP programs and either applying for one, or taking similar courses. Alternatively, you could take upper level science courses you haven't taken before. It's probably a good idea to seek advice on this subject from the admissions offices of some of the schools where you intend on applying. In my experience, admissions staff are often pretty helpful.

I'd also postpone your MCAT if you're not scoring 510+ on the AAMC FLs. You'll need a strong score to convince admissions committees that your academic difficulties are in the past.

Hey, I am sorry I mis-wrote the ms part. So the program I did was two semester of post-bacc, then took extra classes in the summer which i earned ms in physiology. so it was like a duel program where the first two semesters just post-bacc and taking extra physiology classes gave a chance to earn ms physiology. not sure if this will make a difference tho.
also, do you think the pharm classes will be included in the gpa? because in the university transcript: the pharm classes where under professional school and undergrad classes were operate. Do you think that will make a difference?

 

[pms_testosterone]

A PharmD is an undergraduate degree, so yes, your pharmacy classes will likely be included in your undergrad GPA.

Oh, I didn't realize your MS included a post-bacc component. Your situation is a bit complicated. Maybe some of the admissions committee members on here such as @Goro or @gyngyn would be able to help you.