AEGD? Reality or a joke

[welle]

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👍 Hi everybody?

 

[brush]

according to ADA some states will allow u to practice after an accredited post grad program like AEGD.U can look up this information under licensure for international graduate.

 

[welle]

according to ADA some states will allow u to practice after an accredited post grad program like AEGD.U can look up this information under licensure for international graduate.

Yes I have read that. but does anyone really went through this? Was it easy to get a reasonable offres after finishing?

Plz plz plz share your opinion so everyone can benefit.....👍 THANX

 

[LKY]

One of the AEGD program accept foreigners is Rochester university...look at the thread and you may find more information abt it good luck!

 

[NileBDS]

👍 Hi everybody? I have an important question that needs a realistic answer.
Alot of people now including me are interested in AEGD program, hoping to get a lisence after. Now imagine you are done with those two years, what is next? How sure you are to get your lisence,and after how long?
I am just worried that I may find myself still struggling after loosing 2 years and much money on this program. Specially most of the people have no real clues on how things goes after that program? And most of the answers even from faculty members in that respected program is : We are not sure? It is not 100% guaranted to get your lisence after 2 years.

👍.........plz share your views and your experience..........👍

They are not sure and it is not guaranteed because rules change everyday. If you ask me though, you would probably "at least" be able to get a NewYork license. Most states now are moving towards licensure by post graduate training, and that seems to be the emerging trend. The only problem I see though, is most dentists will have a hard time taking your CV and/or job application seriously with a foreign degree. But on the bright side, you can always apply for advanced standing later, and you will have a much better shot at acceptance.
PS: I know for a fact that foreign grads with foreign degrees will eventually find jobs, but you must ask them what the nature of their jobs are. Some end up doing hygiene, working as temporary employees, fast turnover chain offices with poor pay. It is a good thing that you decided to investigate this now, and I would encourage you to continue to ask around for better answers.

 

[welle]

Thank you Nile bds. Yes I think you are right. It may be easy to get the license but it may not be easy to find a good offer with a good salary. plus I think the malpractice will be very high in the beginning for those who keep their foreign degree.
I don`t know, I am really confused. I have a high chance to get into AEGD program this year. That is why I am trying to understand every aspect of it first, and I think here is the best way to share ideas and opinions. So plz everyone share your experience and your opinion about this topic.

Again, HOW DO YOU EXPECT YOUR FUTURE AFTER 2 YEARS OF AEGD???


SHARE YOUR OPINION WITH US

 

[dilema]

Thank you Nile bds. Yes I think you are right. It may be easy to get the license but it may not be easy to find a good offer with a good salary. plus I think the malpractice will be very high in the beginning for those who keep their foreign degree.
I don`t know, I am really confused. I have a high chance to get into AEGD program this year. That is why I am trying to understand every aspect of it first, and I think here is the best way to share ideas and opinions. So plz everyone share your experience and your opinion about this topic.

Again, HOW DO YOU EXPECT YOUR FUTURE AFTER 2 YEARS OF AEGD???


SHARE YOUR OPINION WITH US

me too i'm more inclined towards/ AEGD/GPR because its loan free..
but at the same time think its better if i had a US degree too, but you know in the end it will all be the same. Maybe it will be tough INITIALLY to get a job with good pay for AEGD graduates than a DMD/DDS graduate.
i did speak to alot of DMD graduates, they have not done alot of cases, they believe in quality than in quantity. i guess we should be fine after 2 years of extra practice we get in these programs. but its really HARD to get in. its highly competetive, tougher than a dmd/dds program

 

[mapleh]

me too i'm more inclined towards/ AEGD/GPR because its loan free..
but at the same time think its better if i had a US degree too, but you know in the end it will all be the same. Maybe it will be tough INITIALLY to get a job with good pay for AEGD graduates than a DMD/DDS graduate.
i did speak to alot of DMD graduates, they have not done alot of cases, they believe in quality than in quantity. i guess we should be fine after 2 years of extra practice we get in these programs. but its really HARD to get in. its highly competetive, tougher than a dmd/dds program

Hi dilema, could you please tell me how much a person have to pay for AEGD program? Need to pass NBDE 1and 2? Can be a dentist after the program? Thanks!

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Most states now are moving towards licensure by post graduate training, and that seems to be the emerging trend.

... And why shouldn't they? All US states do this for international medical graduates. Why shouldnt they do it for dental graduates. As long as you have completed at least 2 years of ADA/CODA accredited postgraduate residency training. I believe you should be eligible for a US license.


And what is all this talk about not being able to get a good job?

Dentistry allows you to (Be your own boss).. ie. Open your own bloody practice. No one said you can't. Go for it and good luck! 👍

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

It may be easy to get the license but it may not be easy to find a good offer with a good salary. plus I think the malpractice will be very high in the beginning for those who keep their foreign degree.

Again.. open your own practice. Job problem solved.

Again.. are international medical graduates after they become ECMFG cetified and complete a US residency required to pay more medical malpractice than any other US doctor? No? Where are you getting this information from?

 

[gottago]

It may be easy to get the license but it may not be easy to find a good offer with a good salary. plus I think the malpractice will be very high in the beginning for those who keep their foreign degree.

Both things you stated are NOT true. You will get job offers just as anyone else, all they care about is that you're licensed. Malpractice insurance premiums will be the same for an FTD as it's for everybody else.
Only disadvantage that I know of of doing a 2 yr AEGD or GPR is that you are limited in the number of states where you can get licensed which is not a big deal as most DDS graduates choose one or 2 states to obtain a license anyways!

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

It may be easy to get the license but it may not be easy to find a good offer with a good salary. plus I think the malpractice will be very high in the beginning for those who keep their foreign degree.

Both things you stated are NOT true. You will get job offers just as anyone else, all they care about is that you're licensed. Malpractice insurance premiums will be the same for an FTD as it's for everybody else.
Only disadvantage that I know of of doing a 2 yr AEGD or GPR is that you are limited in the number of states where you can get licensed which is not a big deal as most DDS graduates choose one or 2 states to obtain a license anyways!

agreed.

Heck, they might start requiring even US grads to do a min of 1 year GPR or AEGD in the future anyways. (a few states already do this) 👍

 

[BlueToothHunter]

Here are the facts:

1. Most employers will state the fact that the dentist be a graduate of and holders of DDS/DMD from an accreditted university.
2. Malpractice insurance will be higher if you are an FTD.
3. NY state won't give you a full dental license unless you are a US citizen or a greencard holder. You also must have a US dental school conferred DDS/DMD degree. Foreign degree won't do.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Here are the facts:

1. Most employers will state the fact that the dentist be a graduate of and holders of DDS/DMD from an accreditted university.
2. Malpractice insurance will be higher if you are an FTD.
3. NY state won't give you a full dental license unless you are a US citizen or a greencard holder. You also must have a US dental school conferred DDS/DMD degree. Foreign degree won't do.

1. Not a legal requirement. Some employers may prefer this, but if thats the case... open your own practice. Problem solved.
2. How is this legal? If you have the same dental license as an American grad, how can they charge you more for malpractice? They don't do this to internationally trained Doctors.
3. All US states require you to be a US citizen or Greencard holder, I have no problem with this. Obviously NY state is included in the list of states that require a CODA degree to obtain a license.

 

[gottago]

Here are the facts:

1. Most employers will state the fact that the dentist be a graduate of and holders of DDS/DMD from an accreditted university.
2. Malpractice insurance will be higher if you are an FTD.
3. NY state won't give you a full dental license unless you are a US citizen or a greencard holder. You also must have a US dental school conferred DDS/DMD degree. Foreign degree won't do.

1. Some not most and that is not a big deal, I know quite a few FTDs that did residencies and found jobs just like anyone else. I did one too and I speak from personal experience.
2.Again where did you come up with this "fact", I'm an FTD who did a residency, now licensed and employed and my premiums for malpractice insurance are the same as the next guy.
Care to back up your "facts"?