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What is the next step for someone who does a Surgery-prelim internship? What PGY-2 programs can they apply to and have a chance of matching into? Thanks.
What is the next step for someone who does a Surgery-prelim internship? What PGY-2 programs can they apply to and have a chance of matching into? Thanks.
What gutonc said. Derm appears to be an option too. Their RRCs program requirement document is rather vague regarding the PGY1 prerequisite.
Depending on the individual program, You might also be able to transfer into open PGY2 spots in EM, FM, and OBGYN, without having to repeat too much.
That said...somebody who can only match (or scramble) into a prelim surg spot is probably not going to be a strong candidate for most (any?) of those specialties. And I don't think ABFP gives any credit for a surgery year.
You may be right about FM, I'm honestly not sure. But I figured one should be able to get at least SOME transfer credit for a prelim surg year. I remember reading something like 2 months for general surgery rotations, and maybe another 2-3 months towards electives? Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.
hi guys
i just have a question iam an IMG graduated 2008 , step 1 252/99 and preparing for the step 2 ck now , also i have 8 months USCE in surgery and IM , i dont need a visa iam a legal resident , i am interested in general surgery so i thought by going to prelim i might have a chance in cat what s your advise for me thanks in advance .
Depends on where he's going. Some people don't get in anywhere after two prelim years, and I know of someone getting a PGY-3 spot after two prelim years.I have what may be a dumb question, but I don't know the answer so I going to ask. There's a resident at the school I just graduated from who didn't match last year and was given a surg-prelim spot. He tried again this year and didn't match again, so they're going to let him do another prelim year. If he tries again next year, would he have to start as a PGY-1 again or would the 2 years he's already done count and allow him to "start" as a PGY-3?
I have what may be a dumb question, but I don't know the answer so I going to ask. There's a resident at the school I just graduated from who didn't match last year and was given a surg-prelim spot. He tried again this year and didn't match again, so they're going to let him do another prelim year. If he tries again next year, would he have to start as a PGY-1 again or would the 2 years he's already done count and allow him to "start" as a PGY-3?
I just saw this thread and it is slightly depressing. My husband is in the AF, encouraged to do a surgical PGY1 year, after that year AF decided it was time to pay his time back. Time is coming to a close and he's looking to reapply as PGY1, but programs are stating funding issues. We are in an overseas tour and short staffed during critical time, he's not allowed personal time off to rotate/visit programs. Are there really no options to train in desired field (oto) other than hoping to find a rare PGY2 position?
Fact: As a prelim PGY1, you have an 18% chance of ever continuing in General Surgery. The vast majority of prelims end up in family medicine.
That said, prelim surgery is the ONLY way for IMGs to get into categorical surgery... Landing a prelim position is hard enough, but landing a categorical surgical position borders the impossible.