amcas, general application process questions

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AnthonyNY

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OK....so, I'm finishing my amcas now, will probably submit it tomorrow, or monday at the latest. what comes next after this? i am asking because i seem to know no one else that i can speak to about how this whole application process works...i feel like im in the dark, my school does not send out many people to med school, so, my "pre-med advisor" (ha!) doesnt really seem to be able to tell me much.

1.how do i check if everything is submitted correctly?, ie. my transcripts are checked, primary is complete etc.
2. when am i to expect secondaries?
3. when do secondaries go back out--is that with the LORs?
4. when are interviews ....?
5. other stuff im probably going to want to ask later

----i am planning of going on vacation from august 17th to the 27th...im worried that i'll be away during an important time in the application process...should i just skip the vacation, or can i keep i touch with things while away or just wait to get back? ugh..

like i said, i feel kind of in the dark with all this.......anything that anyone can tell me at all will be appreciated..

thanks
-Anthony

ps...what's an OOS? :)

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You can search on these forums for many of your answers, but I can answer a few.

You'll get secondaries now, once you're verified by AMCAS (May be awhile...), and later, as some aren't out yet.

OOS means Out of State.

Each school has their own way of letting you know your status...most keep you up to date with emails or online status pages.

Hope this helps, have fun searching the forum for more :)
 
And as for vacation, I'll be gone for three weeks in August doing a mission trip out of the country...I'll have access to email, so it shouldn't be that bad...I wouldn't think of not going :)
 
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It depends. If you have email access on your vacation, it will probably be no problem. If not, some secondaries need to be returned within 2-3 weeks or the schools won't accept them. I think you can avoid that though if you just let the schools know you will be leaving for a week or so.

Also, AMCAS should let you know when everything has been received. There's an option on the left of you screen when you are in AMCAS to check your status. Most schools will also let you know when you are complete (i.e., secondaries, LORs, transcripts are in).

Hope that helps.
 
AnthonyNY said:
OK....so, I'm finishing my amcas now, will probably submit it tomorrow, or monday at the latest. what comes next after this? i am asking because i seem to know no one else that i can speak to about how this whole application process works...i feel like im in the dark, my school does not send out many people to med school, so, my "pre-med advisor" (ha!) doesnt really seem to be able to tell me much.

1.how do i check if everything is submitted correctly?, ie. my transcripts are checked, primary is complete etc.
2. when am i to expect secondaries?
3. when do secondaries go back out--is that with the LORs?
4. when are interviews ....?
5. other stuff im probably going to want to ask later

----i am planning of going on vacation from august 17th to the 27th...im worried that i'll be away during an important time in the application process...should i just skip the vacation, or can i keep i touch with things while away or just wait to get back? ugh..

like i said, i feel kind of in the dark with all this.......anything that anyone can tell me at all will be appreciated..

thanks
-Anthony

ps...what's an OOS? :)

From what I know (I'm also applying this summer, btw)

1. AMCAS will let you know when everything is verified. The important thing to make sure is that everything is as correct as you can possibly make it before submission, because mistakes in the coursework can hold your application up, and if you have misspellings or something obvious, then it won't reflect well on you. I'm sure that most med schools aren't that incredibly anal over a typo or two, but I'd say it's better to be safe than sorry. Just so you know though, if you submit now, it can take weeks for them to verify, maybe even up to six weeks.

2. Some schools don't screen and just want to get your money, so they will send out secondaries as soon as you submit. Other schools wait until you're verified and then screen you before deciding to send you a secondary. Look those up on the forum; there's a bunch of threads dealing with which schools screen and which don't (use the serach feature; also note the 'advanced' button).

3. Some people say that there is a 2 week rule on secondaries, but the basic thing to remember is that you want to get the secondaries out as soon as you can. Some schools have a due date for you, while others just have a general due date for all applicants. Either way, you want to get the secondary back to them well before the due date. As for LORs, yes they should be sent out when you send the secondaries back out (or even before you send the secondaries out). Very often, or so I hear, LORs are the rate-limiting step, because med schools won't consider your application complete before the LORs are in, and some professors can be pretty bad with deadlines.

4. The earliest that interviews start is in September, and they can go until January or so, I believe (I'm not sure when the last interviews are conducted). Basically, if you want to be considered in the first group of interviews, you need to get everything out by no later than mid-August (even that might be too late for September, though).

5. No, don't wear khaki's to an interview.

Yes, look it up if you want to know your chances of acceptance.

Yes, look up tips on different schools.

No, don't consider yourself any less if you don't get in med school this time around; are you prepared to reapply and do more things in the meantime to build your credentials up, or are you going to look at a different career?

Yes, a 3.8 with a 35+ MCAT gets you in med school, no matter what the rumors are.

Yes, the people who didn't get in with those kinds of stats did something terrible on their application, including, but not limited to, shooting someone down in cold blood, flagrantly cheating on their inorganic chemistry final exam, sexually assaulting a TA, etc.

Yes, you're most likely going to get in with a 3.5-3.6 GPA and a 30 MCAT, as long as the rest of your application is solid and doesnt have many red flags.

Yes, a red flag is a bad thing on your application that stands out in the ad-com's eyes. For example, a C in a class is not bad red flag, but a lot of C's are.

Yes, you're still pretty early.

No, you won't be early if you keep asking if you're early.

Yes, apply only to schools you actually want to go to school at.

Yes, 30+ schools is excessive.

No, 10-20 schools is not excessive.

Yes, you are a qualified applicant.

No, you're not being neurotic.

No, the population posting on SDN is not representative of the general applicant pool.

Yes, checking out the website alone and getting the tips from it helps you as a student and applicant.

Yes, enjoy your vacation.

No, you won't be getting another one for a while.

No, don't schedule a vacation during interview season.

No, schools do not consider ability to pay when you apply.

Yes, the reputation of the school you graduate from can help your application.

No, the reputation does not matter if your application is that poor.

Yes, the California schools are impossible to get into from OOS (out of state).

No, you're not getting in if you're from out of state unless you have stats that would make Harvard jealous.

Yes, you can get in if you have cured cancer or have blackmail information on a bunch of ad-coms.

Yes, ad-com means admissions committee.

Yes, you will have more questions down the road.

No, most of the people on SDN won't flame you, call you a troll, make fun of you, or make snide comments.

Yes, some people will.

Yes, some of them are mean.

No, most of them are not mean; they just want to get to the magical 500+ posts status.
 
To check if your transcripts have been received, you can click the link on the left of the 'Main Menu' of AMCAS. It says 'Details'. You should also receive an email once your transcripts have been received. It will probably take a few weeks for your primary to be verified. According to this thread, they're verifying people who submitted on about July 10th today:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3954821#post3954821
(make sure to go to the last page/last post to see the most current.

You'll receive some secondaries almost right after you submit (well probably monday if you submit this weekend). Other schools wait until your primary application is verified (probably ~2-3 weeks) before sending you a secondary, and still others make a more thorough review of your primary before sending a secondary. Some schools haven't even made their secondaries available to anyone yet. You can check out this thread to see who has made theirs available (again make sure to go to the end for the most up-to-date list):
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3954785#post3954785

If you feel like you're behind, you can check out this next thread, which has a listing of some of the secondary essay questions. This will also help you get ahead of the game so you can get as much done as possible before your vacation. If you see that a secondary has been released (last thread) and it's not listed in this thread, you can request that someone post the questions for you (and everyone else):
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3945754#post3945754

To answer some of your other questions, secondaries should go back out ASAP (while spending enough time on them to make them well written and thoughtful). I think a good idea is to have them in by late-August at the latest. Some schools only give you a limited amount of time to complete them, others give you until December or January. Earlier is definitely better. The 'two week rule' is a rule of thumb (submit within 2 weeks of receiving it).

Interviews start at different times, depending on the school. Usually they start in September. Some SDNer's have alread been invited to interviews (lucky bastards :oops:) and others have been rejected :eek: . Check it out:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3955057#post3955057

Hope all that helps! Oh and good luck :luck: :luck:

Cheers!
J
 
defrunner said:
No, the population posting on SDN is not representative of the general applicant pool.

This is an important point to keep in mind if you're getting worried wandering around the forum...
 
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