Anatomy is Impossible

[futuredoctor1995]

We have a Anatomy test coming up in a week or so and I don't know anything. I have been trying to study and memorize it but I feel that I can't store anything in my brain. I also have this feeling that I might have to repeat this course. This class is extremely overwhelming and I know pre-clinical grades don't matter much but I think even passing is near impossible at this point. My question is does med school get better after this? I just don't know how to study for all this and I feel like a idiot in class because everyone is super smart. Thank you!

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[BorntobeDO?]

We have a Anatomy test coming up in a week or so and I don't know anything. I have been trying to study and memorize it but I feel that I can't store anything in my brain. I also have this feeling that I might have to repeat this course. This class is extremely overwhelming and I know pre-clinical grades don't matter much but I think even passing is near impossible at this point. My question is does med school get better after this? I just don't know how to study for all this and I feel like a idiot in class because everyone is super smart. Thank you!

Thats imposter syndrome, and its normal. While there are some genius' in your class, most people are not. Your on a more level playing field than you thought.

As for encouragement, I hated anatomy, especially the lab. In general, everything is harder later, but on this one point, I will say the rest is better. If MGA is the only thing thats really getting you, you might do better later. That was the case for me, as anatomy dragged my whole first semester down by itself. Once I had that huge time sink off my chest, I did much better.

 

[HueySmith]

Probably doesnt get easier. Enjoy it while you can.

 

[popopopop]

What's your studying strategy so far?

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Thats imposter syndrome, and its normal. While there are some genius' in your class, most people are not. Your on a more level playing field than you thought.

As for encouragement, I hated anatomy, especially the lab. In general, everything is harder later, but on this one point, I will say the rest is better. If MGA is the only thing thats really getting you, you might do better later. That was the case for me, as anatomy dragged my whole first semester down by itself. Once I had that huge time sink off my chest, I did much better.

Thank you so much. It is just so difficult because I cannot just memorize and I like to understand things. I did well in Biochem but this is extremely stressful.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

What's your studying strategy so far?

I have been trying to associate the muscles with the nerves and arteries and then I am trying to connect the clinical importance of each muscle. I think this way I will at least get a 50 percent even though that is still failing haha. It is just that I am having a hard time retaining everything.

 

[Angus Avagadro]

Ok. Do this.
Go to student affairs and get a tutor and/ or a 2nd year mentor, or BIG. Be brutally honest about your study habits and commit to change.
Dont try brute memorization, try to look for concepts about muscle groups, how they function, and try to think of questions professors might ask.
Pre clinical grades ARE important and have good correlation with Step 1 scores.

Take a deep breath, run your own race .There are scary smart people in your class, dont try to do what they do.
You are plenty smart enough to do this, or you wouldn't be sitting I'm that class. You will end the race at the finish line, they just might be faster
So what?

Commit to hard work, but also work smart. Take regular breaks, get enough sleep.
Those feelings of inadequacy will remain for years. They merely indicate what a conscientious person you are.

Good luck and Best wishes. Dumber people than you have gone farther on less ability. If they can do it, so can you!

 

[Goro]

Thank you so much. It is just so difficult because I cannot just memorize and I like to understand things. I did well in Biochem but this is extremely stressful.

Try drawing pictures and match each structure to a function.
Imagine particular structural movements. What team members are taking part?
Spend lots of time in the lab.

 

[UnoMas]

Learning structures alone in Anatomy is very difficult, pick up a Clinical Anatomy review book and read it. I highly recommend BRS Anatomy- the red book. And look at more than 1 cadaver, let the gunners dissect

 

[CoomassieBlue57]

everyone is super smart.

This is far from the truth, especially in a class like anatomy. There's always the fortunate couple of students that are so smart they only need to see the lecture material once before the exam. Others study 14+ hours a day to learn the material. Some have previous experience with anatomy, while other students have none. The point is you know you are struggling and the vast majority are struggling just like you. And trust me, there are absolute f***ing idiots in your class that weaseled their way in to medical school, and act like they are the smartest person in class and try to bring you down. Just concentrate on you and you'll pass the class and then move on.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Learning structures alone in Anatomy is very difficult, pick up a Clinical Anatomy review book and read it. I highly recommend BRS Anatomy- the red book. And look at more than 1 cadaver, let the gunners dissect

I have read over the Clinical Anatomy notes and found the significance of it and now I am doing Gray's Anatomy Questions. Is that a bad approach to follow? I thought maybe after reading some of the answers and explanation, I can find a pattern with the answers and questions. For the lab, I was just going to go into the lab and go through each cadaver.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

This is far from the truth, especially in a class like anatomy. There's always the fortunate couple of students that are so smart they only need to see the lecture material once before the exam. Others study 14+ hours a day to learn the material. Some have previous experience with anatomy, while other students have none. The point is you know you are struggling and the vast majority are struggling just like you. And trust me, there are absolute f***ing idiots in your class that weaseled their way in to medical school, and act like they are the smartest person in class and try to bring you down. Just concentrate on you and you'll pass the class and then move on.

Thank you so much for writing this. I thought I was the only one studying for 14+ hours but I guess that is the norm here. This makes me feel so much better!

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Anatomy was the most miserable class in medical school hands down.

 

[Medic741]

We have a Anatomy test coming up in a week or so and I don't know anything. I have been trying to study and memorize it but I feel that I can't store anything in my brain. I also have this feeling that I might have to repeat this course. This class is extremely overwhelming and I know pre-clinical grades don't matter much but I think even passing is near impossible at this point. My question is does med school get better after this? I just don't know how to study for all this and I feel like a idiot in class because everyone is super smart. Thank you!

Get Netters coloring book and use it (seriously)
Find *anything* in the root of the thing that you're memorizing that you can identify that will trigger memories when you see it on the test. This one really helps me

 

[ARK1234]

I've never taken anatomy before med school, and I can definitely remember feeling overwhelmed by it (I've been told that anatomy is in some ways, like your first real med school class).
Simply put, as you know, anatomy boils down to basically three things: what is this structure, where does it go, and what does it do? A large part of that is muscle innervations, dermatomes, or blood supply. And this takes a lot of repetition to memorize. But I think most med schools will ask them in context of clinical scenarios. That's why I loved gray's anatomy questions, and I recommend doing as many questions as you can - as most people seem to suggest, pattern recognition is still pretty key and can help with repetition. There are only so many ways that a professor can ask about radial nerve palsy, nutcracker syndrome, or a cranial nerve palsy involving ocular nerves. As you do questions and continue to repeat facts, try to group things together and understand how many of these muscles/nerves/blood present in clinical scenarios.
I did not particularly enjoy anatomy labs (particularly because we had no idea what we were doing as first years, and most of us ended up pretty much butchering our cadaver cluelessly), but I also agree that for lab practical tests, it is in your benefit to see as many cadavers as possible. I didn't spend hours at a time trying to cover everything, but I did it systematically. One day, my friends and I would go to the cadaver labs for like a half hour one day and look at the deltoid/upper arm muscle at like 7 different cadavers, and then get out. Then we would go back the next day for an hour, identify the root of the brachial plexus of 7 different cadavers, and then get out. And repeat, systematically each day for a different part each day. It made it more manageable, and still get plenty of exposure by the time lab practicals came without the need to cram.
It's a brutal class, simply because of the sheer amount of information and details that they can test you on, but I will say that in some way shape or form, most people get through it. So I'm sure that you can too! Hang in there!

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

Because you're studying it the wrong way.

You need to understand that in medical school it's all about "high yield" and not about learning or understanding everything. You need to watch each lecture and see what BS the professor is focusing on. You need to know those facts cold. That'll be 80-90% of your test. If they just mention a few muscles here and there, don't bother learning all its insertions, movements, etc. If they go on about how the saphenous v comes from and splits, etc. then you must know that. Forget your "understanding" or trying to cover everything. You will fail out of med school. It's all about memorize and dump from now on.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Because you're studying it the wrong way.

You need to understand that in medical school it's all about "high yield" and not about learning or understanding everything. You need to watch each lecture and see what BS the professor is focusing on. You need to know those facts cold. That'll be 80-90% of your test. If they just mention a few muscles here and there, don't bother learning all its insertions, movements, etc. If they go on about how the saphenous v comes from and splits, etc. then you must know that. Forget your "understanding" or trying to cover everything. You will fail out of med school. It's all about memorize and dump from now on.

My professor focuses alot on the clinical relevance of the muscles. Should I just focus more on that? Thanks

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

My professor focuses alot on the clinical relevance of the muscles. Should I just focus more on that? Thanks

I haven't sat in your lectures, so I can't know what your professor seems he's focusing on. If you think he's focusing on that, then yes, study that the most. There's no point in knowing the origin of your 3rd lumbrical if your professor is screaming to you that the superior gluteal is the nerve involved in trendelenburg sign.

 

[jcve34]

I loved and hated Anatomy. That class would honestly be the reason for soul searching if I had to decide to repeat first year or find another career path. Go to the anatomy lab a ton and get the complete anatomy app and quiz yourself. Anatomy has very little conceptual stuff to know so you just need to be able to conjure up an image of the body in your head and match it to the question or tag for the practical. If you are at KCUMB the rest of the stuff you need to know are in blue boxes and Grays Anatomy Review
Questions.

 

[libertyyne]

Here is what worked for me. Take netter's images, all of them in the current unit, image occlude each label on the image on individual anki cards. Testing yourself is the quickest way to learn and assess anatomy. Repeat this for 8 hours a day until all the cards are done. Earn an A.

 

[Ho0v-man]

It’s not impossible. There’s tons of physicians practicing right now who went through it proving it’s not impossible. When you consider the fact med school stats creep up a little every year, then you realize that you’re in a class at your school that’s technically the most qualified bunch of students to ever sit in those chairs. Seriously, just try to remember that the radiologists and surgeons teaching you guys anatomy (or whatever other class for that matter) that make this stuff look easy likely couldn’t have even gotten an interview at your school today. You are capable of doing this.

 

[Hadstuff]

totally feel you.... I just spent 40+ hours studying this weekend only to find out that I can get less than 70% of the Grays anatomy questions right..... I just couldn't settle for a desk job could I?

what I am doing is going through the questions I got wrong in Grays review, and finding the topics I keep getting wrong. from there I am gonna go through my lecture notes tomorrow and try to learn them, then retest myself on more grays questions... and repeat.

 

[ololona]

You need to get Complete Anatomy!

 

[Hippocrates II]

I'm right there with you struggling in anatomy right now. I'm finding that there is sadly no substitute for just sitting in the cadaver lab and identifying everything over and over again. It's tedious and I personally hate it, but hopefully we'll all make it through this and then never have to focus on 70% of this anatomy ever again. As for people recommending to focus on 'high yield' or important topics, my lecturer (and maybe OP's) simply says to know everything on his slides. "If it's on the slide, it's important."

 

[Hippocrates II]

Ya, you'll definitely have to focus on 70% of it again. I use anatomy every day. Honestly, anatomy was the most efficient part of the preclerkship years. I can't think of anything we learned in anatomy that isn't important. Muscles location and action, blood supply, innervation. All of it is of the utmost importance.

So, I would hunker down if I were you.

You're telling me you really utilize knowing every tubercle, tuberosity, and innervation point of every muscle in the arm daily? I ran our structure list by my friend who is almost done with his FM residency and he recognized like half of our list. And by recognize, I mean had heard of it and remembered it, not being able to identify it on the body specifically.

 

[libertyyne]

You're telling me you really utilize knowing every tubercle, tuberosity, and innervation point of every muscle in the arm daily? I ran our structure list by my friend who is almost done with his FM residency and he recognized like half of our list. And by recognize, I mean had heard of it and remembered it, not being able to identify it on the body specifically.

having an excellent base of anatomy helps understand other aspects of medical school, including pathology, genetics, nutrition, cardiovascular systems, cns, etc... Furthermore there have been studies where Anaatomy NBME performance moderately to highly correlates with step performance. It is in your best interest to bust your ass to do as well as you can and understand as much as you can. If not for anatomy itself, just so you can develop study methods that will serve you well throughout medical school.

 

[Lawpy]

Try drawing pictures and match each structure to a function.
Imagine particular structural movements. What team members are taking part?
Spend lots of time in the lab.

Could we get a Goro’s Guide to Anatomy?

 

[Roxas]

Thinking back on it I'm not sure how I passed anatomy tbh.

Definitely some of the darkest times of med school

 

[Hippocrates II]

having an excellent base of anatomy helps understand other aspects of medical school, including pathology, genetics, nutrition, cardiovascular systems, cns, etc... Furthermore there have been studies where Anaatomy NBME performance moderately to highly correlates with step performance. It is in your best interest to bust your ass to do as well as you can and understand as much as you can. If not for anatomy itself, just so you can develop study methods that will serve you well throughout medical school.

Yeah, I don't doubt any of that. I'm just skeptical that I will routinely use and remember most of this moving forward. Major muscles, innervations, arteries? Sure. Every bump, tuberosity, foramen, and associated nomenclature of every part of the cervical vertebrae? Probably not. I think this is more of a case of a phd wanting a very focused understanding of anatomy beyond what will ultimately be used. Then again, I'm 3 weeks into anatomy, so what the hell do I know. Just a hunch I suppose.

 

[Goro]

Could we get a Goro’s Guide to Anatomy?

In all truth, SDN doesn't pay me to do my real job!!!

 

[Hippocrates II]

Innervation to muscles is 100% important for every single physician. As I stated in my previous post. Maybe your buddy is a terrible doctor? Dunno

As you'll find out you dont get routinely tested on tubercle/ tuberosities, unless, shocker, they are clinically relevant.

Agree to disagree. I think if that were the case (being tested solely on clinically important anatomy), we would probably discuss why a tubercle is important rather than throwing 50 at us and never mentioning 95% them again. We have gone over clinical correlations for maybe 10% of our structure list. Given that we have no more days of upper anatomy lecture, I'm guessing that won't be the case (further elaboration on the importance of various anatomical structures). I'm not complaining, I understand this is how medical school and most education is, but if I remember 50% of this stuff moving forward I will be shocked and amazed.

 

[dpmd]

Yes anatomy is important and I use it every day at work as does probably every type of doctor in a way. However it is only a really focused version depending on what your specialty is and you kind of relearn most of it a bunch of different times and use references when appropriate. It isn't like those who struggle in anatomy class won't make it as doctors or will be limited in specialty. Let's put it this way, I am a surgeon and do most of my daily work in the abdomen and I once called the spleen a kidney on a lab practical. I review the anatomy when I do something new just like I did before cases I scrubbed into as a med student and like I did in residency.

Because of the way I learn best, things did get easier for me as med school went on. Keep working on it and hopefully you won't fail even if you don't do as well as you would hope to.

 

[dpmd]

Agree to disagree. I think if that were the case (being tested solely on clinically important anatomy), we would probably discuss why a tubercle is important rather than throwing 50 at us and never mentioning 95% them again. We have gone over clinical correlations for maybe 10% of our structure list. Given that we have no more days of upper anatomy lecture, I'm guessing that won't be the case (further elaboration on the importance of various anatomical structures). I'm not complaining, I understand this is how medical school and most education is, but if I remember 50% of this stuff moving forward I will be shocked and amazed.

The tubercules come up during procedures where they are helpful landmarks. Like when I find the tibial tubercle to plan my fasciotomy incision or use the public tubercle and ASIS to plan my inguinal hernia incision.

 

[dpmd]

The reason why we get tested on all this crap that seems like minutiae that we could easily look up and in fact docs often do exactly that when they need to remind themselves of some detail is so that when a patient is sick and you are trying to make them better at some point some tidbit might flash through your brain and help you accomplish that. Because you only know well what you do often but if someone comes in with something a little different having learned about stuff ever means you know to look it up instead of just thinking everything is fine. Because you can't be looking up everything every day but you don't know until later what information is important.

 

[Hippocrates II]

You don't have a leg to stand on in order to agree or disagree. You've been a medical student for like 6 weeks. You have no idea what is important and what's used in the practice of medicine. Harsh but that's the reality.

Ah, the good ole medical school hierarchy where someone pulls out there "I've been in medical school x number of whatever longer than you, so therefore I am right". A great standby that never fails to appear in any sort of med school debate. I'll be sure to ask you in 15 years to describe in intricate detail ever facet, fovea, tubercle, and other descriptors of the atlas vertebra because you will surely know it.

 

[Hogwartz]

Hey guys n=1 but I looked for this exact advice on Reddit a year ago

I did TERRIBLY in anatomy. I put in more time than I put into biochem and physio combined and still struggled to get above 75%. To put it shortly- I think there's 2 very typical groups of medical students.

One group is very good at memorizing large amounts of information, drilling them down in their head, and just looking at these details over and over. The other group of students (like myself) really likes to fully understand a topic, needs to make sense of that topic and thinks of things in a more systematic way. This is a slower process and in the end this process also requires a TON of memorization. The majority of us are a mix of these two groups but some people (like myself) are more of an extreme.

ANATOMY caters to the first group. Sometimes, even when you understand the origin/insertion, the action, look at it both in slides/on a cadaver there is still a way to get the question wrong. I failed so many practicals despite putting in lab time and I was seriously down about it. My classmates who were good at anatomy with less effort made me feel like ****.

The interesting thing is as soon as that class ended I found myself loving every quarter since. I think there are a lot more to the "relationships" in physiology than those in Anatomy, I love knowing how deficiencies in enzymatic pathways lead to a disease process (biochem), the very logical clinical nature of Neurology, Pathology, Microbiology, etc. Alot of those kids who were anatomy all stars couldn't keep up with these courses and have struggled since.

I have done well in nearly all of my classes but anatomy (90+). I strongly suggest once you realize this isn't going to be your strong suit DO WHAT IT TAKES to get the best grade but DON'T let it get you down. Some of us think differently and anatomy is a special kind of beast.

Best of luck man, and keep working at it you'll get the hang of it

 

[NecrotizingFasciitis]

You're not alone OP. Like has been mentioned above, not everyone is a hardcore memorizer. Conceptual people like you & I & others on this thread have to work a lot harder when it comes to hardcore memorization subjects than others. Look for ways to make things conceptual.

e.g.) You don't need to memorize a muscles' origin/insertion/action. You either need its action, or it's origin & insertion, & you can rationalize the remainder. I think I just memorized all the actions and did totally fine. And I knew where most of the nerves/arteries ran from studying my atlas/dissecting, so there really wasn't a tremendous amount of memorization leftover for lecture exams after that (if a nerve/artery goes somewhere....it's probably innervating/supplying that area.)

If you chunk information like that, then all you have to do is tease out the exceptions to the rules you make up & it makes things much easier for us conceptual people.

As for lab, I'm not a huge fan of spending endless hours down there. I think it's a waste of time. And sometimes the loudest people down there (loud: very open about how much anatomy they "know") actually don't know that much. Sometimes they are even blatantly wrong, but they are coming off so confident that others start to believe everything they say. There's potential for that type of thing to happen. And if you don't know your anatomy well enough, you won't even know that it's happening. The times I went into lab and really knew my stuff I heard that happen every once in a while.

I always advocate for memorizing the atlas (picture perfect stuff) and only ever going to lab to apply the anatomy you've memorized to real life in the presence of someone that truly know what they are talking about (e.g. a tutor/prof.) I know not everybody agrees with this approach though.

 

[Ho0v-man]

Ah, the good ole medical school hierarchy where someone pulls out there "I've been in medical school x number of whatever longer than you, so therefore I am right". A great standby that never fails to appear in any sort of med school debate. I'll be sure to ask you in 15 years to describe in intricate detail ever facet, fovea, tubercle, and other descriptors of the atlas vertebra because you will surely know it.

So I was in a very similar boat as you last year. Now I agree with the person you’re quoting. This crap keeps coming up and if you don’t nail it now you probably won’t. Worse is that your instructors expect you to be experts on it like you just took the block exam yesterday. I phoned in some lower extremity anatomy last year and it’s STILL hurting me today.

It’s the same with other classes. I.e. infectious disease classes you have in a random systems block next year still expect you to have every random agar and virulence factor memorized from this semester’s micro class. There will be no review bc they’re going to build on that stuff you forgot or just never bothered to learn.

You can agree to disagree all you want. This is reality.

 

[Black Coffee 24/7]

So I was in a very similar boat as you last year. Now I agree with the person you’re quoting. This crap keeps coming up and if you don’t nail it now you probably won’t. Worse is that your instructors expect you to be experts on it like you just took the block exam yesterday. I phoned in some lower extremity anatomy last year and it’s STILL hurting me today.

It’s the same with other classes. I.e. infectious disease classes you have in a random systems block next year still expect you to have every random agar and virulence factor memorized from this semester’s micro class. There will be no review bc they’re going to build on that stuff you forgot or just never bothered to learn.

You can agree to disagree all you want. This is reality.

Just the reality in your training Bros. Just take the punch chin up, smile, and try not to make the same mistake on a similar question next time. I scored really well in Anatomy on both Comlex and USMLE w/o much effort but I still got a ton of pimp Anatomy questions on my surgery rotation wrong. Just have a good attitude and don’t be an a-hole.

Stuff happens but just be glad that you’re being destroyed and learning during your training than getting these simple stuff wrong as an attending. As an attending, there will be serious repercussions for mistakes totaling to thousands of $$$, rather than some yapping from some attending.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Anatomy minutiae is overrated. Yeah the practical stuff comes up often, but there's a whole lot that doesn't. You will see the important things over and over, the problem is that you can't tell whats important when you first take it. Just chug thru and move along. If this is your only issue, your grades will be going up, while those who espouse the essential importance of anatomy minutiae will come down. You will probably end up remembering more of the important things than the students who easily memorize in a couple years cause you had to work for it. Chin up.

 

[CyrusHabs7695]

Does anybody know if B&B has an anatomy section/videos/practice questions?

 

[sunshinefl]

Does anybody know if B&B has an anatomy section/videos/practice questions?

There isn’t a dedicated anatomy section, but within the organ systems there are generally anatomy, physiology, and embryology videos.

 

[pseud0]

Edit: ahh you're not at nyit you're at KCU. Does KCU give prosection videos? watch those over and over and then find all the structures in lab with a partner. That was basically my diatribe

 

[Neopolymath]

Don't waste time in open lab unless that aspect is absolutely integral to how you learn. It's a gigantic inefficiency for most people, but somehow gets perpetuated as a cardinal rule to follow to ace anatomy. We really should have a sticky of things not to do because they are incredibly inefficient, but are done by most students (like taking handwritten notes). It comes up every year.

 

[Smithy007]

We have a Anatomy test coming up in a week or so and I don't know anything. I have been trying to study and memorize it but I feel that I can't store anything in my brain. I also have this feeling that I might have to repeat this course. This class is extremely overwhelming and I know pre-clinical grades don't matter much but I think even passing is near impossible at this point. My question is does med school get better after this? I just don't know how to study for all this and I feel like a idiot in class because everyone is super smart. Thank you!

Yes, it gets better. This is your first class of medical school and your just now beginning to adapt. Good luck man and know their is light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Hippocrates II]

If it's of any condolence OP, almost everyone I spoke to failed the upstairs exam. Olinger made the practical very reasonable IMO. (assuming you're at KCU)

 

[futuredoctor1995]

If it's of any condolence OP, almost everyone I spoke to failed the upstairs exam. Olinger made the practical very reasonable IMO. (assuming you're at KCU)

I am at KCU. It is extremely demoralizing. He told us to study the Blue Boxes but everything was from his slides.

 

[imanidiot7]

Thats imposter syndrome, and its normal. While there are some genius' in your class, most people are not. Your on a more level playing field than you thought.

As for encouragement, I hated anatomy, especially the lab. In general, everything is harder later, but on this one point, I will say the rest is better. If MGA is the only thing thats really getting you, you might do better later. That was the case for me, as anatomy dragged my whole first semester down by itself. Once I had that huge time sink off my chest, I did much better.

Gosh, I hope this winds up being the case for me. I feel like a big part of the reason I'm struggling with everything else is I don't have time for it all after I spend a full 2 or 3 days out of every week just studying anatomy, only to not even absorb 70% of it. I hope once anatomy is out of my way, if I can even manage to pass past that point, having that time freed up will make a huge difference.

 

[Hippocrates II]

I am at KCU. It is extremely demoralizing. He told us to study the Blue Boxes but everything was from his slides.

Like I said, you are far from alone on that one. There was a person in the anat lab that was pseudo-tutoring everyone because they have some kind of grad level education in anatomy and they barely passed the test. Other than that person, I know of almost no one who scored >70 on it. Olinger's lectures did not correlate very well to the level of questions he was asking IMO, so even if you understood his lecture material, it wasn't enough to answer many of his questions (for me at least).

 

[sab3156]

I am at KCU. It is extremely demoralizing. He told us to study the Blue Boxes but everything was from his slides.

Yeah, you will learn pretty fast not to trust what the professors say about what's "going to be on the exam".